Ian Johnson | 2 Sep 09:39 2014
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SJS Doherty | 6 Feb 02:40 2014
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Resurrecting old e-mailers‏?

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I've 3 x E3 e-mailers and 2 x second generation e-mailers.

Can they be made to operate as normal phones, i.e. is there any way around the registration issue?

When powered up, I'm frozen out until I register the units, which of course is no longer available.

Any suggestions?

Your reply would really help, one way or another, as I'm on the point of binning all of them.  It just seems a pity.

Thanks guys

James D
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<div>I've 3 x E3 e-mailers and 2 x second generation e-mailers.</div>
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<div>Can they be made to operate as normal phones, i.e. is there any way around the registration issue?</div>
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<div>When powered up, I'm frozen out until I register the units, which of course is no longer available.</div>
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<div>Any suggestions?</div>
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<div>Your reply would really help, one way or another, as I'm on the point of binning all of them. &nbsp;It just seems a pity.</div>
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filippo sartori | 20 Mar 00:38 2013

Building a new kernel

I have got an E3 and I managed to flash on it linux following the instructions I found on the web.
Next step to make it an useful device I need to be able to tweak the kernel and prepare applications for it.
I therefore decided I will try to build a kernel from openembedded as described in the documentation I found.
I am trying using openembedded classic not core.
I am having some difficulties as it seems that the relevant files are not up to date with the rest.
Has anybody successfully built a kernel recently?

Greetings
Filippo

<div><p>I have got an E3 and I managed to flash on it linux following the instructions I found on the web.<br>Next step to make it an useful device I need to be able to tweak the kernel and prepare applications for it.<br>I therefore decided I will try to build a kernel from openembedded as described in the documentation I found.<br>
I am trying using openembedded classic not core.<br>I am having some difficulties as it seems that the relevant files are not up to date with the rest.<br>Has anybody successfully built a kernel recently?<br><br>Greetings<br>
Filippo<br><br></p></div>
Andy Brown | 8 Feb 21:10 2013
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Newbie help please .......

Hi,

 

Looking for some help with an Amstrad E3 I was given recently.

 

I’m a computer technician, but have very little experience with Linux based systems ( all our systems at work are Windows).

 

I was looking for a small screen to fit in the  Comanche helicopter cockpit simulator I’m building. All it has to do is display some web pages and change them based on about 8 different key presses.

 

I have set up a machine with Ubuntu on it and it is talking to the E3. I followed the instructions here http://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started and everything went fine until the last “bootm” command.

 

It did give a lot of info about the image but didn’t end with a shell prompt. Instead I get a message:

 

“ kernel panic – not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown block(1,0)”

 

I do get the “penguin” and a load of text on the E3 screen before the error, so I rekon I’m not far away.

 

I’ve also tried the system from 2.6.16 here http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/ with exactly the same results.

 

Can somebody advise what I’m doing wrong please ?

 

 

Many thanks in advance,

 

Andy

 

 

 

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<p class="MsoNormal">I&rsquo;m a computer technician, but have very little experience with Linux based systems ( all our systems at work are Windows).<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was looking for a small screen to fit in the &nbsp;Comanche helicopter cockpit simulator I&rsquo;m building. All it has to do is display some web pages and change them based on about 8 different key presses.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have set up a machine with Ubuntu on it and it is talking to the E3. I followed the instructions here <a href="http://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started">http://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started</a> and everything went fine until the last &ldquo;bootm&rdquo; command.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It did give a lot of info about the image but didn&rsquo;t end with a shell prompt. Instead I get a message:<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&ldquo; kernel panic &ndash; not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown block(1,0)&rdquo;<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do get the &ldquo;penguin&rdquo; and a load of text on the E3 screen before the error, so I rekon I&rsquo;m not far away.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I&rsquo;ve also tried the system from 2.6.16 here <a href="http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/">http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/</a> with exactly the same results.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Can somebody advise what I&rsquo;m doing wrong please ?<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks in advance,<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Andy<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
</div></div>
Edward Robbins | 26 Nov 14:32 2012

Re: pbltool problem

Ok, so I just tried it with debugging and it has booted!

Cheers,
Ed

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Edward Robbins
<edd.robbins <at> googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I've got some free time today and have been playing with the emailer
> again. I've managed to build a 3.6 kernel a while ago but when I tried
> to upload the V2 stuff I had problems.
>
> Today I made up a new cable thinking that might be the issue, but it
> hasn't helped. I can get a boot log just fine, but when I run pbltool
> with "sudo ./pbltool -f /dev/ttyUSB0 oe-install.pbl" I get:
>
> Prodding...
> Handshaking...
> Done handshaking
> Compressed return block?
> Flushing: 0x00
> Flushing: 0x0E
> Flushing: 0x00
> Flushing: 0x82
> Flushing: 0x00
> Flushing: 0x52
> Flushing: 0x00
> Flushing: 0x04
> Flushing: 0x09
> Flushing: 0x1F
> Flushing: 0x05
> Flushing: 0x10
> Flushing: 0x40
> Flushing: 0xFE
> Flushing: 0x7B
> Flushing: 0x0E
> Flushing: 0xB0
> Flushing: 0x9A
> Compressed return block?
>
> Which then repeats forever. I've tried editing oe-install.pbl to
> change the baud rate (38400, 19200, 9600) but it makes no difference.
> I also looked for pblq but the link on
> http://cowlark.com/amstrad/index.html is broken.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!

Edward Robbins | 26 Nov 14:18 2012

pbltool problem

Hi again,

I've got some free time today and have been playing with the emailer
again. I've managed to build a 3.6 kernel a while ago but when I tried
to upload the V2 stuff I had problems.

Today I made up a new cable thinking that might be the issue, but it
hasn't helped. I can get a boot log just fine, but when I run pbltool
with "sudo ./pbltool -f /dev/ttyUSB0 oe-install.pbl" I get:

Prodding...
Handshaking...
Done handshaking
Compressed return block?
Flushing: 0x00
Flushing: 0x0E
Flushing: 0x00
Flushing: 0x82
Flushing: 0x00
Flushing: 0x52
Flushing: 0x00
Flushing: 0x04
Flushing: 0x09
Flushing: 0x1F
Flushing: 0x05
Flushing: 0x10
Flushing: 0x40
Flushing: 0xFE
Flushing: 0x7B
Flushing: 0x0E
Flushing: 0xB0
Flushing: 0x9A
Compressed return block?

Which then repeats forever. I've tried editing oe-install.pbl to
change the baud rate (38400, 19200, 9600) but it makes no difference.
I also looked for pblq but the link on
http://cowlark.com/amstrad/index.html is broken.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Anthony Griffiths | 28 Oct 21:42 2012
Picon

em2001uk

I've got an amstrad emailer em2001uk that is locked up and unusable -
'Hold down (email) button to restore service', so I'm here as a
beginner to see what I can do about it. All I want is to use it as an
ordinary phone. I know my way a bit around a linux pc if that helps.
Thanks for any advice.

Edward Robbins | 27 Jun 00:45 2012

Just got an e3 - where do I start

Hello e3 hackers,


I just received an e3, which to start with I'd just like to get a kernel to boot on (not quite sure what I'll do with it yet -  but that will come later). 

The guy that gave it to me me said it had been in storage for some time, so fingers crossed that it has not been updated. I don't know yet because I haven't got a compatible PSU yet!

If I understand correctly it's the proprietary bootloader on the 128Kb NOR flash that may have been updated making it difficult to hack? Would it be possible to get around this by flashing manually (using an AVR or similar?) If so would anyone be able to supply the correct binary image for the flash?

Assuming I can pass this hurdle, what is the shape of linux support for this now? I see from reading the mailing list that the late 2.6 series worked fine... how about 3.x? How about defconfigs with full (or as much as possible) hardware support? I am happy cross compiling a kernel... I guess I can use any old ARM cross compiler?

What exactly is the boot process and how does this limit the size of the kernel image? There's a way to get uboot on there - how can I do this? Does the kernel always need to be sent over serial?

Sorry for all the questions, but without reading the entire mailing list there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find answers!

Thanks,
Ed
<div>
<p>Hello e3 hackers,</p>
<div><br></div>
<div>I just received an e3, which to start with I'd just like to get a kernel to boot on (not quite sure what I'll do with it yet - &nbsp;but that will come later).&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
The guy that gave it to me me said it had been in storage for some time, so fingers crossed that it has not been updated. I don't know yet because I haven't got a compatible PSU yet!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If I understand correctly it's the&nbsp;proprietary&nbsp;bootloader on the 128Kb NOR flash that may have been updated making it difficult to hack? Would it be possible to get around this by flashing manually (using an AVR or similar?) If so would anyone be able to supply the correct binary image for the flash?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Assuming I can pass this hurdle, what is the shape of linux support for this now? I see from reading the mailing list that the late 2.6 series worked fine... how about 3.x? How about defconfigs with full (or as much as possible) hardware support? I am happy cross compiling a kernel... I guess I can use any old ARM cross compiler?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>What exactly is the boot process and how does this limit the size of the kernel image? There's a way to get uboot on there - how can I do this? Does the kernel always need to be sent over serial?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Sorry for all the questions, but without reading the entire mailing list there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find answers!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Ed</div>
</div>
David Given | 28 Nov 13:12 2011

Serial port oddity

I realise that the E3 is almost entirely irrelevant these days, but just
in case anyone wants to get one working...

I recently pulled mine out of storage and tried to put Debian on it. (I
want to use it as a modem.) Unfortunately PBL wouldn't handshake.
Investigation showed that at baud rates of 57600 and above, the E3's
serial port seemed to be unable to receive data reliably, getting
frequent single-bit errors. Transmission seems fine.

I eventually managed to get everything working by dropping the baud rate
to 38400 (uploading the kernel and initrd takes an *age* at that speed),
and everything works now.

This might be age-related; my E3 is now years old. A flaky capacitor
causing the pulses to get smeared so that the UART isn't registering
them properly? This seems particularly likely given that I don't have a
level shifter, so I'm driving the UART at out-of-spec voltages.
Alternatively it could be clock drift, but given that the UART is on the
processor this seems unlikely.

So if anyone has an E3 which won't handshake any more, try lowering the
baud rate and seeing if that helps. (pblq has an option for this.)

...

Incidentally, I don't suppose any of the uboot patches got accepted by
upstream, did they? Editing the environment with a hex editor is
slightly harrowing and it'd be so nice to have a version which could
store them in NAND...

-- 
┌─── dg@cowlark.com ─────
http://www.cowlark.com ─────
│ "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
│ telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out
│ how to use my telephone." --- Bjarne Stroustrup

I realise that the E3 is almost entirely irrelevant these days, but just
in case anyone wants to get one working...

I recently pulled mine out of storage and tried to put Debian on it. (I
want to use it as a modem.) Unfortunately PBL wouldn't handshake.
Investigation showed that at baud rates of 57600 and above, the E3's
serial port seemed to be unable to receive data reliably, getting
frequent single-bit errors. Transmission seems fine.

I eventually managed to get everything working by dropping the baud rate
to 38400 (uploading the kernel and initrd takes an *age* at that speed),
and everything works now.

This might be age-related; my E3 is now years old. A flaky capacitor
causing the pulses to get smeared so that the UART isn't registering
them properly? This seems particularly likely given that I don't have a
level shifter, so I'm driving the UART at out-of-spec voltages.
Alternatively it could be clock drift, but given that the UART is on the
processor this seems unlikely.

So if anyone has an E3 which won't handshake any more, try lowering the
baud rate and seeing if that helps. (pblq has an option for this.)

...

Incidentally, I don't suppose any of the uboot patches got accepted by
upstream, did they? Editing the environment with a hex editor is
slightly harrowing and it'd be so nice to have a version which could
store them in NAND...

--

-- 
┌─── dg@cowlark.com ─────
http://www.cowlark.com ─────
│ "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
│ telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out
│ how to use my telephone." --- Bjarne Stroustrup

Michael Powis | 26 Sep 11:46 2011
Picon

emailer

Hello there
I wonder if you can help me at all
 
do you know of any way to make a new e-mailer work, simply as a telephone with number etc storage facility ? This system was excellent!
 
My old one died spectacularly after I threw it across my office ( there is a moral there!) after it developed a seriously irritating background noise and I had a new one in store for when the old one broke.
 
With the demise of the amstrad and sky service I cannot get any response from them
 
hope to hear from you
 
best wishes
 
Michael Powis
<div>
<div>Hello there</div>
<div>I wonder if you can help me at all </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>do you know of any way to make a new e-mailer work, 
simply as a telephone with number etc storage facility&nbsp;? This system was 
excellent!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>My old one died spectacularly after I threw it 
across my office ( there is a moral there!) after it developed a seriously 
irritating background noise&nbsp;and I had a new one in store for when the old 
one broke.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>With the demise of the amstrad and sky service I 
cannot get any response from them </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>hope to hear from you </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>best wishes</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Michael Powis</div>
</div>
Spargue | 12 Jun 08:22 2011
Picon

Latest kernel / patch

Hi, Bought an E3 back in 2008 Not done much with it till now. Wanted to start developing on it again but the files on the ftp server are only up to 2.6.19 and muru only has upto 2.6.27.

Can anyone provide me with the latest kernel patch / buildroot config files?
<div>
<div>Hi, Bought an E3 back in 2008 Not done much with it till now. Wanted to start developing on it again but the files on the ftp server are only up to 2.6.19 and muru only has upto 2.6.27.</div>
<div><br></div>Can anyone provide me with the latest kernel patch / buildroot config files?
</div>

Gmane