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Henri Salo | 18 Jan 2012 17:14
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Re: getting involved in Owl (was: linux-distros list setup update)

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 12:33:17AM +0400, Solar Designer wrote:
> There is Owl/doc/TODO in our CVS tree.  It has some high-level tasks;
> a few of these have already been completed (need to update this file).
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> Do you currently have Owl installed somewhere?  Do you have any
> "complaints" about it - things you didn't like or felt needed
> improvement?  If so, we could look for overlap of these with our
> actually planned tasks.

I do have Owl installed in a testing-network in home, which I use to investigate malware and random new
products/softwares. That Owl works as SSH-gateway and the network is pretty closed up. No connections to
Internet. Other Owl installation is OpenVZ-instance in durian.nerv.fi running ircd for finnish
IRC-network called Nerv (feel free to Nmap if you like).

UTF-8 did definately need improvements. It should be on by default or at least a pretty good guide how to use
it in various software. I have no idea how I could help you with that as I still aren't very good with pkgsrc,
but I could help to get apt to Owl. TODO-list says: "Support a package repository, possibly with Zypper,
yum, or apt (package one of these - and its prerequisites)." does this mean that the apt should be in
default-installation or optional installation from some other resource and if latter from where?

I am not a Debian Developer, but I have used Debian for over eight years now so I think that should be my number
one focus now in Owl if that is still what Owl needs. Deb-packages could be installed to some location
outside of normal PATH using the same ideology as in with pkgsrc.

- Henri Salo
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Solar Designer | 21 Jan 2012 19:06
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Re: getting involved in Owl

Henri -

Thank you for your reply.  I think we will need to take this to owl-dev,
but I'll reply in here for now.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 06:14:17PM +0200, Henri Salo wrote:
> UTF-8 did definately need improvements. It should be on by default or at least a pretty good guide how to use
it in various software.

Yes, we should take care of that.

> I have no idea how I could help you with that as I still aren't very good with pkgsrc,

This has nothing to do with pkgsrc.  While we have these instructions
for use of pkgsrc with Owl on the wiki and this is very nice, they're
just it - user-contributed instructions for possible use of these two
things together.  There's no special connection between Owl and pkgsrc,
and I think most Owl users don't use pkgsrc.

> but I could help to get apt to Owl. TODO-list says: "Support a package repository, possibly with Zypper,
yum, or apt (package one of these - and its prerequisites)." does this mean that the apt should be in
default-installation or optional installation from some other resource and if latter from where?

One of these three tools should probably get into the main tree of Owl.
Ditto for many other things, such as those needed for a LAMP stack.
(In fact, there will be some overlap between libraries needed for a
repository access tool and those needed for PHP, etc.)  One of the main
drawbacks of Owl so far has been that its out-of-the-box functionality
is very limited - we got to address that.
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