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rvd | 1 Apr 2006 14:47
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Mondo/Mindi upgrade issues

Using Mandriva 2006, I already have installed:
mindi-1.06-266.2006.0mdk.i586.rpm and
mondo-2.06-266.2006.0mdk.i586.rpm

and wanted to upgrade to:
mindi-1.0.7-447.20060mdk.i386.rpm and
mondo-2.0.7-447.20060mdk.i386.rpm

However, when I try to upgrade mindi, I get:
rpm -Uvh mindi-1.0.7-447.20060mdk.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
          mindi >= 1.05 is needed by (installed)
mondo-2.06-266.2006.0mdk.i586

Odd, I already have mindi-1.06 installed. ????

and when I try to upgrade mondo, I get:
rpm -Uvh mondo-2.0.7-447.20060mdk.i386.rpm
Preparing...                ###########################################
[100%]
          package mondo-2.06-266.2006.0mdk (which is newer than
mondo-2.0.7-447.20060mdk) is already installed

Again, odd.  How can mondo-2.06 be newer than mondo-2.07 ???

Any ideas on how to proceed?

Rich

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Shai | 1 Apr 2006 19:52
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Re: backup of all /dev/hda (with three partitions on it)

Hi,

Thanks, I understand. I'll look into installing mondo on that server
and do the backup live :)

Cheers,
Shai

On 3/30/06, Mike <mike <at> mikenjane.net> wrote:
> On Thursday 30 March 2006 07:34, Shai wrote:
> > Its just that since this is a live server, I don't want to install
> > anything that might break it...
> > I would rather just boot off a rescue disk and then tell it to backup
> > /dev/hda ...
>
> I don't understand you logic. You say it's a live server, but you will
> take it offline for at least an hour, perhaps more depending on the
> speed and size, to do the backup. I doubt seriously if Mondo/mindi will
> break anything on the server. Been running it on mine for years. It's
> never broken anything. Mondo is even nice in that if something more
> important comes along it gives up it's cycles to that process.
>
> It's your choice. I just don't like taking a system offline unless I
> have to.
>
> Mike
>
>
> > On 3/29/06, Mike <mike <at> mikenjane.net> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 29 March 2006 19:17, Shai wrote:
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jeff | 1 Apr 2006 21:25

Re: backup of all /dev/hda (with three partitions on it)

Someone jump in here but I don't think mondo backs up open files 
reliably. Also on production servers you might want to stop or dump 
databases and the like to get a real snapshot backup. Also stop any 
process you don't need, etc. My experience is it's not optimum to burn 
cds or dvds when other processes are using alot of resources.

JeffS

Shai wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks, I understand. I'll look into installing mondo on that server
> and do the backup live :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Shai
> 
> On 3/30/06, Mike <mike <at> mikenjane.net> wrote:
> 
>>On Thursday 30 March 2006 07:34, Shai wrote:
>>
>>>Its just that since this is a live server, I don't want to install
>>>anything that might break it...
>>>I would rather just boot off a rescue disk and then tell it to backup
>>>/dev/hda ...
>>
>>I don't understand you logic. You say it's a live server, but you will
>>take it offline for at least an hour, perhaps more depending on the
>>speed and size, to do the backup. I doubt seriously if Mondo/mindi will
>>break anything on the server. Been running it on mine for years. It's
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Shai | 1 Apr 2006 19:54
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Re: backup of all /dev/hda (with three partitions on it)

hmm... that said, can I have mondo backup more then one partition so
that when I come to restore the the server... it'll restore the entire
drive, with the partitions I've set on it ... etc.?

Shai

On 4/1/06, Shai <shaibn <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks, I understand. I'll look into installing mondo on that server
> and do the backup live :)
>
> Cheers,
> Shai
>
> On 3/30/06, Mike <mike <at> mikenjane.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 March 2006 07:34, Shai wrote:
> > > Its just that since this is a live server, I don't want to install
> > > anything that might break it...
> > > I would rather just boot off a rescue disk and then tell it to backup
> > > /dev/hda ...
> >
> > I don't understand you logic. You say it's a live server, but you will
> > take it offline for at least an hour, perhaps more depending on the
> > speed and size, to do the backup. I doubt seriously if Mondo/mindi will
> > break anything on the server. Been running it on mine for years. It's
> > never broken anything. Mondo is even nice in that if something more
> > important comes along it gives up it's cycles to that process.
> >
> > It's your choice. I just don't like taking a system offline unless I
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jeff | 1 Apr 2006 23:14

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New mondo development orientation

Ha Ha

JeffS

Bruno Cornec wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Aftre having received a lot of feedback from users complaining on a lot
> of problems they had with mondorescue, I think it's time to move to a
> new orientation for the project.
> 
> So I've decided to drop in the future all the Linux versions as they
> cause so many bug reports, and to focus and what users were really
> expecting: The Windows Vista support.
> 
> With the new delay announced recently for Vista, it will give me enough
> time to improve my current win2003 port and rewrite everything using
> .Net APIs.
> 
> So the next big version 2.2007 should be available early January and
> provide all kind of nice functions as online backup, registery
> restoration smart process, MSSQL native support, and so on.
> 
> Hope that this new direction will solve the major issues we had up to
> now and deliver all the promises we all have in it.
> 
> Thanks for you support
> Bruno.

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Bruno Cornec | 1 Apr 2006 23:28
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Re: mindi crash

ray said on Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 05:15:47PM -0500:

> 	I posted this before, no help, but thing changed here, so I need to
> update the information. There was a new kernel, kernel-devel, etc. on
> yum for FC5 yesterday. This is 2.6.16-1.2080_FC5. Mindi runs until it
> gets to /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2080_FC5/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko- and at that
> point totally crashes. All cpu activity ceases, and a ^c is the only way
> I can recover. I have tried moving that xfs module, it gets, perhaps,
> further along, then, it crashes at
> Strippedbinary-/usr/sbin/mondorestore-
> Has anyone got some idea what to try next?

First you should use 1.06/2.06 or 1.0.7 and 2.0.7. Here you have a mix.
Then do not use -d /dev/hdb Look at the man page for info on the -d
option.
Then as you use LVM you may encounter problems for the moment, as there
is a but with mindi for LVM in 1.0.7 and alo LVM v2 is not completely
supported yet. Look at the wiki (http://www.mondorescue.org)

HTH,
Bruno.
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Mike | 1 Apr 2006 22:19

Re: backup of all /dev/hda (with three partitions on it)

On Saturday 01 April 2006 19:54, Shai wrote:
> hmm... that said, can I have mondo backup more then one partition so
> that when I come to restore the the server... it'll restore the
> entire drive, with the partitions I've set on it ... etc.?

Yes.. My / is on one drive and I keep /home on another. If I tell mondo 
to do a complete backup, that is no excludes, it does a complete backup 
of the entire system. The only thing it doesn't backup is of 
course /proc, and I believe /tmp. Neither are needed to restart the 
system. 

Jeff also brought up a good point about shutting down unneeded processes 
while doing the backup. I'd stop anything not absolutely needed. There 
really isn't anything on mine that I don't need, so I let it run. Those 
running large databases might need to shut them down. Mine isn't that 
big that I can't rebuild it quickly.

Mike

> Shai
>
> On 4/1/06, Shai <shaibn <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks, I understand. I'll look into installing mondo on that
> > server and do the backup live :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Shai
> >
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Bruno Cornec | 1 Apr 2006 23:46
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Re: Problems w / Mindi

Frederick Lee Frazelle said on Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 10:00:32AM -0800:

> Am trying to work w/ this program but am having difficulties.  Have 
> Mandriva 2006 Free with Kernel 2.6.12-12

Please download the version at ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/mandriva/2006

>  Hope someone can help.  Needless to say i'm really new to this and to 
> Linux and only have had experience with the Norton Ghost program...

Oh, you will have a sane chock :-)
But after 10 years, you should be ok.

Best regards,
Bruno.
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Andrew Latham | 2 Apr 2006 00:05
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] New mondo development orientation

Sweet!

Can I beta test, let me dig out my MSDN account contract........

On 4/1/06, Bruno Cornec <Bruno.Cornec <at> hp.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Aftre having received a lot of feedback from users complaining on a lot
> of problems they had with mondorescue, I think it's time to move to a
> new orientation for the project.
>
> So I've decided to drop in the future all the Linux versions as they
> cause so many bug reports, and to focus and what users were really
> expecting: The Windows Vista support.
>
> With the new delay announced recently for Vista, it will give me enough
> time to improve my current win2003 port and rewrite everything using
> .Net APIs.
>
> So the next big version 2.2007 should be available early January and
> provide all kind of nice functions as online backup, registery
> restoration smart process, MSSQL native support, and so on.
>
> Hope that this new direction will solve the major issues we had up to
> now and deliver all the promises we all have in it.
>
> Thanks for you support
> Bruno.
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Bruno Cornec | 1 Apr 2006 23:04
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[ANNOUNCE] New mondo development orientation

Hello,

Aftre having received a lot of feedback from users complaining on a lot
of problems they had with mondorescue, I think it's time to move to a
new orientation for the project.

So I've decided to drop in the future all the Linux versions as they
cause so many bug reports, and to focus and what users were really
expecting: The Windows Vista support.

With the new delay announced recently for Vista, it will give me enough
time to improve my current win2003 port and rewrite everything using
.Net APIs.

So the next big version 2.2007 should be available early January and
provide all kind of nice functions as online backup, registery
restoration smart process, MSSQL native support, and so on.

Hope that this new direction will solve the major issues we had up to
now and deliver all the promises we all have in it.

Thanks for you support
Bruno.
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http://www.mondorescue.org / HP/Intel Solution Center \  http://hpintelco.net
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