Marion Kliewer | 1 Aug 13:46 2007
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Re: More on ISO


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> From: Howard Rosen <hrosen33 <at> dialup4less.com>
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> Reading about ISO it is said that ISO is the French word for equal.
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> I myself do not know if this is so.
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> Howard
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I had to look that one up in my French dictionary, because it didn't 
sound familiar.

iso- is a prefix for science words that indicated equality.  eg: 
isocèle (triangle with two equal sides), isomère, isomorphe, isotherme, 
isotope.

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Yoder, Denton | 1 Aug 16:16 2007
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Re: More on ISO

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> iso- is a prefix for science words that indicated equality.  eg: 
> isocèle (triangle with two equal sides), isomère, isomorphe, isotherme, 
> isotope.
> 

That makes sense.  An ISO, is a direct "DD" copy of the CD image, to a file.  Sameness or equality would be a good definition.

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Gene Young | 1 Aug 17:15 2007
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Re: More on ISO

Yoder, Denton wrote:
>> iso- is a prefix for science words that indicated equality.  eg: 
>> isocèle (triangle with two equal sides), isomère, isomorphe, isotherme, 
>> isotope.
>>
> 
> That makes sense.  An ISO, is a direct "DD" copy of the CD image, to a file.  Sameness or equality would be a good definition.
> 
> Denton Yoder
> denton <at> vt.edu
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Howard Rosen | 1 Aug 18:07 2007

Re: More on ISO

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 11:15 -0400, Gene Young wrote:
> Yoder, Denton wrote:
> >> iso- is a prefix for science words that indicated equality.  eg: 
> >> isocèle (triangle with two equal sides), isomère, isomorphe, isotherme, 
> >> isotope.
> >>
> > 
> > That makes sense.  An ISO, is a direct "DD" copy of the CD image, to a file.  Sameness or equality would be a
good definition.
> > 
> > Denton Yoder
> > denton <at> vt.edu
> > 
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> International Standards Organization

Sorry, but ISO does not stand for International Standards Organization. 

The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) (in French;
L'Organisation internationale de normalisation) is an international
standard-setting body composed of representatives from various national
standards bodies. Founded on 23 February 1947, the organization produces
world-wide industrial and commercial standards.

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Andrew Henry | 1 Aug 19:25 2007
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Re: More on ISO

Howard Rosen wrote:
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 11:15 -0400, Gene Young wrote:
Yoder, Denton wrote:
iso- is a prefix for science words that indicated equality. eg: isocèle (triangle with two equal sides), isomère, isomorphe, isotherme, isotope.
That makes sense. An ISO, is a direct "DD" copy of the CD image, to a file. Sameness or equality would be a good definition. Denton Yoder denton <at> vt.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM
International Standards Organization
Sorry, but ISO does not stand for International Standards Organization. The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) (in French; L'Organisation internationale de normalisation) is an international standard-setting body composed of representatives from various national standards bodies. Founded on 23 February 1947, the organization produces world-wide industrial and commercial standards. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I'm glad to see that we're all learning here. Me mostly included, as I knew nothing about ISO prior to doing a simple Google. Does Google make you Giggle? Howard
Would have been more clear to link to iso.org and see their FAQ for the meaning of their own name...

"What ISO's name means

Because "International Organization for Standardization" would have different abbreviations in different languages ("IOS" in English, "OIN" in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), it was decided at the outset to use a word derived from the Greek isos, meaning "equal". Therefore, whatever the country, whatever the language, the short form of the organization's name is always ISO."

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Howard Rosen | 1 Aug 19:44 2007

Re: More on ISO

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 19:25 +0200, Andrew Henry wrote:
> Howard Rosen wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 11:15 -0400, Gene Young wrote:
> >   
> > > Yoder, Denton wrote:
> > >     
> > > > > iso- is a prefix for science words that indicated equality.  eg: 
> > > > > isocèle (triangle with two equal sides), isomère, isomorphe, isotherme, 
> > > > > isotope.
> > > > > 
> > > > >         
> > > > That makes sense.  An ISO, is a direct "DD" copy of the CD image, to a file.  Sameness or equality would be a
good definition.
> > > > 
> > > > Denton Yoder
> > > > denton <at> vt.edu
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > > International Standards Organization
> > >     
> > 
> > Sorry, but ISO does not stand for International Standards Organization. 
> > 
> > The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) (in French;
> > L'Organisation internationale de normalisation) is an international
> > standard-setting body composed of representatives from various national
> > standards bodies. Founded on 23 February 1947, the organization produces
> > world-wide industrial and commercial standards.
> > 
> > Thanks for the suggestion, though.  I'm glad to see that  we're all
> > learning here.  Me mostly included, as I knew nothing about ISO prior to
> > doing a simple Google.  Does Google make you Giggle?
> > 
> > Howard
> > 
> >   
> Would have been more clear to link to iso.org and see their FAQ for
> the meaning of their own name...
> 
> "What ISO's name means 
> 
> Because "International Organization for Standardization" would have
> different abbreviations in different languages ("IOS" in English,
> "OIN" in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), it
> was decided at the outset to use a word derived from the Greek isos,
> meaning "equal". Therefore, whatever the country, whatever the
> language, the short form of the organization's name is always ISO."
> 
> 
> --andrew

Thank you for adding he above.  I had seen reference to this, but chose
not to include it, but it is better added, as you have done.

Howard
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David Roseman | 2 Aug 09:56 2007

Re: ISO and what it is.

Of course the ISO standards are not the end of the story.  Individual
countries will have their own standards, eg the BSi for britain, and for
anything going to the States to be sold, some sort of FCC standard is
required under Federal law.

I have been putting an electronic product through compliance testing at work
recently, and the bureaucracy  is quite amazing, esp for the US.

Also, there is an ISO standard even for the running of whole company
organisations - ISO9001

Dave

On 31/07/07, Howard Rosen <hrosen33@...> wrote:
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> On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 16:07 -0400, Billy Pollifrone wrote:
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> > The Wikipedia entries for both ISO and ISO 9660 are rather informative
> > on both topics.
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> Yes they are.  That is where some of my information came from.  Great to
> learn this  stuff.
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Annie Gonzalez | 3 Aug 02:23 2007
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help

Hi
Recently installed Mepis 6.5.  Really like it and am in the process of learning how to use it. 

Coming from Windows, security (virus/spyware protection) is a concern.  Been told that Linux is secure,
unlike Windows. Recently discovered a Firewall and Virus Program on Mepis.  Not sure whether these need to
be upgraded periodically as in Norton AV, and other virus and spyware programs. Do I need to scan my
computer? Does Linux perform these tasks automatically?  Tried to scan an email attachment that I saved on
my desktop and got message that KlamAv needed to be activated.  It put the program on my taskbar. Opened it to
check it out and when it got to Virus Browser it popped up a window that said it was installing "lots and lots
of virus information"  What it actually did was hang there and wouldnt go away...and froze the computer.

Been using Synaptic to install upgrades.  Some confusing problems using it at times...

In relation to virus protection during recent download got message that "clamav" had not installed and it
gave message "http:..clamav.net/faq.html, local version: 0.88.7/recommended version 0.91.1.  How
would I deal with these? Went to clamav.net,etc. but there's a bunch of confusing, totally unfamiliar information.

Sometimes before a download it gives a warning that I may be installing "malicious" material...???? and it
gives 3 options for download, which show the same files. 

Also, in Synaptic under Status, theres a long list of "not installed packages".  I totally messed up a
previous version of Mepis when I tried to install them.  What's up with these packages???  Are they
optional, or should some of them be installed?

Appreciate any help I can get so I can keep on going with Linux

Annie

       
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Ralph | 3 Aug 05:49 2007
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Re: help

Annie Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi
> Recently installed Mepis 6.5.  Really like it and am in the process of learning how to use it. 
>
> Coming from Windows, security (virus/spyware protection) is a concern.  Been told that Linux is secure,
unlike Windows. Recently discovered a Firewall and Virus Program on Mepis.  Not sure whether these need to
be upgraded periodically as in Norton AV, and other virus and spyware programs. Do I need to scan my
computer? Does Linux perform these tasks automatically?  Tried to scan an email attachment that I saved on
my desktop and got message that KlamAv needed to be activated.  It put the program on my taskbar. Opened it to
check it out and when it got to Virus Browser it popped up a window that said it was installing "lots and lots
of virus information"  What it actually did was hang there and wouldnt go away...and froze the computer.
>
> Been using Synaptic to install upgrades.  Some confusing problems using it at times...
>
> In relation to virus protection during recent download got message that "clamav" had not installed and it
gave message "http:..clamav.net/faq.html, local version: 0.88.7/recommended version 0.91.1.  How
would I deal with these? Went to clamav.net,etc. but there's a bunch of confusing, totally unfamiliar information.
>
> Sometimes before a download it gives a warning that I may be installing "malicious" material...???? and
it gives 3 options for download, which show the same files. 
>
> Also, in Synaptic under Status, theres a long list of "not installed packages".  I totally messed up a
previous version of Mepis when I tried to install them.  What's up with these packages???  Are they
optional, or should some of them be installed?
>
> Appreciate any help I can get so I can keep on going with Linux
>
> Annie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>   
Hi annie.  I've been using Mepis for a couple of years.   I never
activated KlamAv.  I never scanned my computer in those  2 years.  I
never scanned downloads or email attachments.   I never got a virus as
far as I know.  I think if I got one it  would just die as it can't harm
Linux.   As far a Firewall is concerned,  my computer gets the internet
through a router.  The router has a firewall built in I believe.  So I
never installed the Mepis firewall.

As far as Synaptic, you have to understand how it works.  Many of the
programs listed in Synaptic are already installed on your computer and
may need to be upgraded.  You can do a global upgrade soon after you
install Mepis.   After you do the global upgrade, you will periodically
be notified about upgrades. ( There is a litte icon on the panel.  It
tells you whenever an upgrade is available (by changing the "0" being
show to 1, 2, 3, or whatever, depending on the number of programs
needing upgrading.  The upgrades don't have to be for the virus
program.  In fact, they are usually for some other program.

Anyway, if I was in your situation I would install the firewall (if I
didn't have a router), but I would probably not bother with the Klamav. 
I would also do a global update.  Most people do the global update with
the command line rather than Synaptic.  However, if you want to use
Synaptic, you would open it, click on the icon that says "mark all
upgrades". Then the screen refreshes and tells you how many dowloads are
coming.  Then you choose "Apply".  The upgrades are automatically
installed after you click on "Apply".

RALPH
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Billy Pollifrone | 3 Aug 10:25 2007

Re: help


Annie Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi
> Recently installed Mepis 6.5.  Really like it and am in the process of learning how to use it. 
> 
> Coming from Windows, security (virus/spyware protection) is a concern.  Been told that Linux is secure,
unlike Windows. Recently discovered a Firewall and Virus Program on Mepis.  Not sure whether these need to
be upgraded periodically as in Norton AV, and other virus and spyware programs. Do I need to scan my
computer? Does Linux perform these tasks automatically?  Tried to scan an email attachment that I saved on
my desktop and got message that KlamAv needed to be activated.  It put the program on my taskbar. Opened it to
check it out and when it got to Virus Browser it popped up a window that said it was installing "lots and lots
of virus information"  What it actually did was hang there and wouldnt go away...and froze the computer.

If you understand the nature of how virus' and spyware work, then you'll
understand why it isn't necessary to have a virus scanner on Linux
unless you are scanning for Windows clients such as a mail server.

You still have to keep security in mind, such as not installing
untrusted software and not running as root, but a virus scanner is not
needed and IMHO will just wear your HDD unnecessarily.

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