Re: Project state, future and the inevitable doom
2015-07-24 21:24:27 GMT
I very much welcome this proposal..I must admit that my life got a bit more hectic as I just was made aware of that I have to find a new place to live by the end of the month..But I'll try to assemble a list of topics and a more concrete proposal for a structure for the project to be governed by, as it's been quite evident, especially sine yesterday's revelation of the OMA council's lack of respect of the project's autonomy, by both interfering with it by censoring the mailing list again, while also refusing to disclose th details behind it, which is obviously at conflicts with the statutes requiring transparency of information within organization..I will also introduce you to Sam Spurlock, which has offered to help me/us in this task, which I hope will help for a greater chance of success by my attempts of pursuing everything on my own while also trying to focus on technical matters and the mess that is my life these days..Symbian Flo, would you be able to use some meeting organizing service online to organize a meeting where everyone can rsvp and notify about their best time for such a meeting?2015-07-23 19:32 GMT+02:00 Symbian Flo <symbianflo <at> mandrivausers.ro>:AFIC everybody here is missing the big picture...( exempt pulfer),the priority ain't no more finances, or bad choices,or whatever...Hey folks no ABF no distro, and I mean no oma or rosa...I know , POK offered some hw, but let's wait for the new owner and what is up to.<at> POK writing here is kinda lame ... if you could try to organize a meetingon #moondrake, since some are banned from oma ml , some are not evenin the ml and some , for some very strange reason don't reach oma ml anymore...that's why my ping yesterday.Or if you have some other option to meet just name it.For ex. I'm available all days after 19:00 ( Rome or CET)Thanks.
2015-07-21 3:53 GMT+02:00 Per Øyvind Karlsen <proyvind <at> gmail.com>:I'm sending forwarding this mail to you in expectancy of stepping up and join the discussion as most of you has expressed same dissatisfaction with state of everything and support for these things.So I hope that you guys finally will step up and make your voices heard..Some of you I included in this forward as I know you might have some interest on one level or another, or has the credibility and trust to chip in and help out with this project which has become a disaster project-wise and quality-wise..---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Per Øyvind Karlsen <proyvind <at> gmail.com>
Date: 2015-07-20 20:49 GMT+02:00
Subject: Project state, future and the inevitable doom
To: Cooker OpenMandriva <om-cooker <at> ml.openmandriva.org>Hi!This is something I've been meaning to write for a long while, and most contributors has really wanted me to bring up..Namely how this project since I was blocked from the project that got hijacked and illegimately decided to denounce me as the project leader,,And the consensus of majority of contributors, while also ROSA has been very unsatisfied by the result (remember, we were about to merge the two again before psychopats as Matthew Dawkins manipulated everyone off-list in private and made this whole a chaos and the the perfect distribution that was in the works, never materialized, which OMV Lx became a huge disappointment compared to,,,Also, which people like Kate are sincery dishonest about, is our funding and her intentions about leaving in like three months as Leonid Reiman is pulling out...With the funds OMA has, this project will only be able to cover server expenses for veryvery short time now...So something needs to be done,,,I personally have a 64 core system which outperforms the whole cluster nodes, which I'll be sponsoring the project with, while trying to see if I can get free hosting or at least a good price on...Also, as OpenMandriva Lx, and "om.cooker" has abandoned all legacy and trademark, and become irrelevant now, this project has no appeal to much people, stability and usage wise I'm not even recommending it to other...So I propose that I assume the project leader role again (which technically, noone took away from, this was handed to me by JMC himself to take responsibility for, which OMA forced itself to take these away, yet I never gave them...Also with OpenMandriva Lx has been a disaster what name, trademark and lacking any clear goals and purposes concerns, this needs to change.Our history dates back almost 20 years, and is our greatest assetm while OMA without even consulting cooker, decided that this would be a new project, while "om-cooker" isn''t even considered as old cooker by those, something WE, the project, and which we made a clear stance on that WE controlled the project, NOT OMA which people might recall from the grand metting back in 2013...So given current situation, and that I know I have support from most, even Raphaël who's has been so sorry for what happened and the mistakes that wore, I propose taking the project leader role (as we actually still lack one, I replaced Eugeni, noone replaced me) and everyone who have long experience with me know that I'm just, have integrity, longest experience with this project and know all of and how things works..Also with the OMV naming disaster, while not even recovered the signing key, giving the righteous rights to our cooker project, which I have in my possession,,And on a related note, with Mandriva being liquidaed we have no legal presence in control of the project, the trademark loss back in 2006 is rather moot outside of France...So in order to settle the the dispute, I'm wanting to name the project back to Mandrake GNU/Linux (linux foundation has trademark on linux), while signing with the true Mandrake key in order for us to claim being the project (most people has started perceiving Mageia as the true Mandrake heir, which is a total lie, they forked with desceptive tactics and lies, they even trying to steal our projects, claiming for themself to be the true upstream for all of our software projects, which is plainly wrong)...Notice however, I do not want to spoil the efforts people has invested in OpenMandriva Lx, and as several among us has talked about separating it to a subproject, with the true cooker being upstream. Especially since OMV cannot be considered the same project, different signing key and even changing version name to 3 (over almost twenty year as a full blown community participated project, we obviously have released tons of past releases..)So I hope that people will support this, otherwise the inevitable end is near,,And pointed out above that I'll be sponsoring enterprise hardware, with the current servers soon disappering I hope you all see that this is the only way to save this project,,,Would anyone protest against this?If so, I'll be renaming moondrake to mandrake, while still keep signing with the authentic Mandrake key in my releases and repos,,,Well, I hope at least that I spark a discussion and brought up the severity of the situation for people to fully understand in what distress this project actually and also pave the ground for people to discuss problems with project and what their unhappy with, Many people are loosing interest and stopping to contribute...Sincere Regards,Per Øyvind