TheOldFellow | 4 Oct 08:14 2008
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This list is not abandonned!

I still look at it every day.  And will use it if I have anything
interesting to say.

I wonder who is using LFS/BLFS these days.  There is very little
activity on the -dev lists, although xorg-7.4 and gcc-4.3 seem to have
made things happen.

I think it might be good to have a revised LFS system register - the
current one, I'm #207 BTW, only records your first LFS build (2.4) - it
would be good to see who is using a current version, and what for.

It would certainly encourage the devs if they knew that 300 people were
using it as their primary OS.

For me, I use Ubuntu for my desktop at the moment, but only as I don't
have the time to build a full GROAN (GNOME) desktop for LFS.  However,
my gateway server that runs my LAMP webserver and XMail mailserver
together with the second firewall, is an LFS 6.3+ system.  Everything
here in the house goes through that box, and it never, ever, goes down
(unless I want it to).

I'd like to know:

how many systems run what version of LFS - today.
what for: production, research, education.
principle applications: webserver, desktop (which one), etc,etc.

R.

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Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas | 4 Oct 10:22 2008
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Re: [CHAT] This list is not abandonned!

On Sat, Oct 04, at 07:14 TheOldFellow wrote:
> I still look at it every day.  And will use it if I have anything
> interesting to say.
> 
> I wonder who is using LFS/BLFS these days.  There is very little
> activity on the -dev lists, although xorg-7.4 and gcc-4.3 seem to have
> made things happen.
>

I am using LFS from almost my first day in Linux (January of 2005), but
I wouldn't recommended it for production environment. Debian or one of the
bsd's (in my opinion) are proper solutions for production or RHEL if you
have money to spare.

> It would certainly encourage the devs if they knew that 300 people were
> using it as their primary OS.

I think development is an inner need, so contributions to this project
are total independent from that number. 

> For me, I use Ubuntu for my desktop at the moment, but only as I don't
> have the time to build a full GROAN (GNOME) desktop for LFS.  However,
> my gateway server that runs my LAMP webserver and XMail mailserver
> together with the second firewall, is an LFS 6.3+ system.  Everything
> here in the house goes through that box, and it never, ever, goes down
> (unless I want it to).

As I said I am using LFS, although I've tried to go Arch for a week.
I am very-very busy right now, so I don't have much time to maintain my
desktops, so I thought I'll give Arch a chance. But guess, I couldn't do
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Matthias Feichtinger | 4 Oct 10:46 2008
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Re: I tried...

Am Freitag, 3. Oktober 2008 21:02 schrieb Nicolas FRANCOIS:
>So after recovering from several old saves (I promise I'll do a backup
>EVERY WEEK now !), I installed A Debian, just because It was quite
>anoying to reinstall a full LFS !

:-)

>Debian sucks because it's so much outdated, Ubuntu sucks because it's so
>heavy, Mandriva sucks because it's so KDE oriented... (B)LFS, man,
>what else ?

Just exactly my experience. Having to install Debian to some machines
I am happy to come back to LFS afterwards...

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Lars Nielsen | 4 Oct 15:02 2008

(Virtual Machine ?)

Hey there,

I'm trying to make a script to install LFS ( a little like jhalfs) but i 
could use a virtual machine application to test the installation.
Can anyone recommend a good and easy to install/manage virtual machine 
software?
I am running slackware with Xfce4 as host system.

Best regards
Lars Nielsen, ;-)
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Alan Lord | 4 Oct 17:23 2008

(Virtual Machine ?)

Lars Nielsen wrote:
> Hey there,
> 
> I'm trying to make a script to install LFS ( a little like jhalfs) but i 
> could use a virtual machine application to test the installation.
> Can anyone recommend a good and easy to install/manage virtual machine 
> software?
> I am running slackware with Xfce4 as host system.
> 
> Best regards
> Lars Nielsen, ;-)

I use VirtualBox lots. Never had any problems with it.

Cheers

Al

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Matthew Burgess | 4 Oct 19:24 2008

(Virtual Machine ?)

On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:23:01 +0100, Alan Lord <alanslists <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Lars Nielsen wrote:
>> Hey there,
>>
>> I'm trying to make a script to install LFS ( a little like jhalfs) but i
>> could use a virtual machine application to test the installation.
>> Can anyone recommend a good and easy to install/manage virtual machine
>> software?
>> I am running slackware with Xfce4 as host system.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Lars Nielsen, ;-)
> 
> I use VirtualBox lots. Never had any problems with it.

Likewise, I've just taken ownership of a laptop that is capable of running a VM, and have VirtualBox
installed.  Nice and easy to use, although I've only had the opportunity to use it on Windows (I know, I know!).

Regards,

Matt

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Trent Shea | 4 Oct 19:56 2008
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Re: This list is not abandonned!

Hi,

Like a lot of people out there I have what is probably considered 
(DD)ADD (Desktop/Distro;) For a time I've downloaded each major release 
and found them to be lacking in some area. For the better part of this 
year I've been using (B)LFS inspired systems. Admittedly, my first 
build was in the summer of 2006 and it was by rote. I was counted 
sometime after and have LFS ID 18910 for version 6.2.

LFS has been, without a doubt, the most educational experience I have 
had. I cannot think of another project which could expose anyone with 
no experience to so much, and so quickly, in such a painless, results 
based way. It's empowering.

My current system is based off SVN-20080711 with perl 5.10.0 and 
linux-2.6.26.5, with much reference to the BLFS instructions. I still 
have lots to learn and I have no doubt that (B)LFS will be there with 
me every step of the way.

Thanks (B)LFS and anyone who has contributed - This is THE project that 
comes to mind when I think free software!
Trent.
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Ken Moffat | 4 Oct 23:41 2008

Re: This list is not abandonned!

On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:14:48AM +0100, TheOldFellow wrote:
> 
> I wonder who is using LFS/BLFS these days.  There is very little
> activity on the -dev lists, although xorg-7.4 and gcc-4.3 seem to have
> made things happen.
> 
 I'm still using LFS, but my CLFS installs tend to get more use (one
box is normally pure64 x86_64, except when I use it for testing LFS,
second is variously LFS and multilib x86_64 (so, at the moment it has
an _old_ multilib system, and two LFS-6.3 instances), one is a mac
G5, and my laptop is a mac G4 although I now rarely rebuild it.  My
mac-mini G4 did have LFS on it (jh's version), but it appears to
have died.  My server (nfs for documents, notes, sources, photos;
some audio; mailserver; ntp; backups with rsync / occasional writes
to tape or DVD) is clfs pure64.

 I'm hoping to get a fresh LFS install soon, but first I'm trying to
put together an updated desktop, on pure64 but with gcc-4.2.  The
second box is currently mainly used for photo editing (LFS/BLFS-6.3
with a newer version of the gimp) - I guess all my serious photo
editing is done on that box under LFS at the moment, mainly because
it's the one with the usb cable plugged in to it ;-)

> I think it might be good to have a revised LFS system register - the
> current one, I'm #207 BTW, only records your first LFS build (2.4) - it
> would be good to see who is using a current version, and what for.
> 

 I think I grabbed a silly number like 180, even though I only
arrived in the run-up to LFS-3.0, but I'd forgotten about the
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Nathan Coulson | 5 Oct 00:29 2008
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Re: This list is not abandonned!

Myself, I've never dabbled in the distro environment ever.  (My first
linux system where I learned how to use it was actually LFS.
Interesting that my dos experience & the slackware book was enough to
get a full system built).  Ironically enough, mandrake/slackware were
harder to learn [more program].

These days, I still use LFS (although about 6 months ago, I modified
my LFS buildscripts to build for a mixed 32/64bit arch using a couple
CLFS/CBLFS patches, JH's 64bit lfs book, and a few of my own tweaks.

Currently playing with Xorg 7.4 (things aren't quite 100% on my
system), and trying to see how powerful a G965 is with Mesa 7.2

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JonY | 5 Oct 10:27 2008
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Which fs for rsync/ftp repos

Hi guys,

What file system is best for large rsync/ftp repos? I know there are no 
exact answers but I need some recommendations.

My previous repo uses reiserFS, but failed after some power cuts. The 
repo is used to mirror the gentoo portage and source tree for a few 
machines on the LAN. The machines are for experimentation and learning, 
not actual work, gets wiped out every so often.

btw, thanks for LFS, its fast and compact, great for closet servers.
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