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Robert Connolly | 16 May 2007 14:08
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Hello. In the last few days I have had some mysterious bugs with my system. 
I'm curious if it's familiar to any of you, because I'm having trouble 
figuring it out.

The problems started with trying to mount a dvdrom while compiling something. 
The 'mount' command would hang, and wouldn't be easily killed. After about 5 
minutes it did eventually die, and did not consume noticeable cpu while it 
was stuck. Soon after I tried to remove a 1.3GB file from /home, which 
is /dev/sdb whole-disc loop-aes encrypted ext3. The 'rm' command got stuck, 
and used 95% cpu. After 10 minutes I decided to reboot, and after rebooting I 
was able to remove the file.

The next day, today, I tried to unpack a tarball on /usr/src, which 
is /dev/sda15 ext3. bzip2, via 'tar xf', failed and complained the file was 
corrupted, even though the file was fine an hour earlier. The file size was 
correct, but the gpg signature was not. So I tried to remove it, and 'rm' 
started using 95% cpu again, and after 10 minutes of that I rebooted 
because 'kill -9' had no effect.

After this reboot I forced a fsck on both drives, and ran 'badblocks' 
read-only tests, and there were no errors. My bios also does memory check, on 
the ram, during boot, and this didn't find any errors. I also run 
the 'smartd' daemon, and it only reported 2 degree temperature changes around 
the time of these problems.

I have two guesses. Both of these drives are sata, and use the same 
controller. Perhaps the controller is damaged. The second guess is 
linux-2.6.21.1, because these problems began shortly after upgrading the 
kernel to this version from 2.6.20.2.
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Ken Moffat | 16 May 2007 15:37

Re: file problems

On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 08:08:42AM -0400, Robert Connolly wrote:
> 
> I have two guesses. Both of these drives are sata, and use the same 
> controller. Perhaps the controller is damaged. The second guess is 
> linux-2.6.21.1, because these problems began shortly after upgrading the 
> kernel to this version from 2.6.20.2.
> 
> Have any of you ever had similar issues?
> 
 Not exactly a similar issue, but then I don't use encryption.  On
my previous "server" everything in /home was backed up several times
a day (including source tarballs) using rsync to a separate disk
(with a rolling set of x copies).  One day, a tarball for gcc became
corrupt.  Searching through the backups of that tarball, they all
seemed to be corrupt too.  In that case I downloaded it again, but
eventually I powered the box down, ran memtest86+, and sure enough
one of the memory sticks had gone bad.

 You said your bios tests the memory, but I tend to have a low
opinion of bios code (it's probably better than I could write, but
that doesn't mean it's any good ;).  Try memtest86+.

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Cedric | 16 May 2007 18:15
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What program do you use for web design?

Hi All,

I recently started with building websites, and found the program 'nvu'. This 
program works OK, the only problem sofar is that it replaces this:
<pre>
n
number
of
lines
</pre>
With this:
a<br>number<br>of<br>lines

Does anybody know a solution for this?

What program do you use for webdesign, and what problems do you face with 
those programs?

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Alan Lord | 16 May 2007 19:10

Re: What program do you use for web design?

Cedric wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I recently started with building websites, and found the program 'nvu'. This 
> program works OK, the only problem sofar is that it replaces this:
> <pre>
> n
> number
> of
> lines
> </pre>
> With this:
> a<br>number<br>of<br>lines
> 
> Does anybody know a solution for this?
> 
> What program do you use for webdesign, and what problems do you face with 
> those programs?
> 
> Best regards,
> Cedric de WIjs

I use Bluefish. It's really a development env. for programming but it 
handles html/css/xml etc etc - just no wysiwyg but then you only need a 
browser for that anyway. And most web design I do is done by playing 
with css after the basic structure is done.

Hope that helps a bit,

Alan
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Greg Van Dyke | 16 May 2007 18:55

Re: What program do you use for web design?

Learn vi and scratch code. Very predictable. Always there.

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:15:12 +0200
Cedric <cedric.dewijs <at> tiscali.nl> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I recently started with building websites, and found the program 'nvu'. This 
> program works OK, the only problem sofar is that it replaces this:
> <pre>
> n
> number
> of
> lines
> </pre>
> With this:
> a<br>number<br>of<br>lines
> 
> Does anybody know a solution for this?
> 
> What program do you use for webdesign, and what problems do you face with 
> those programs?
> 
> Best regards,
> Cedric de WIjs
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Jaqui Greenlees | 16 May 2007 21:52
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Re: What program do you use for web design?


--- Alan Lord <lord_alan <at> dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> Cedric wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I recently started with building websites, and
> found the program 'nvu'. This 
> > program works OK, the only problem sofar is that
> it replaces this:
> > <pre>
> > n
> > number
> > of
> > lines
> > </pre>
> > With this:
> > a<br>number<br>of<br>lines
> > 
> > Does anybody know a solution for this?
> > 
> > What program do you use for webdesign, and what
> problems do you face with 
> > those programs?
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Cedric de WIjs
> 
> I use Bluefish. It's really a development env. for
> programming but it
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TheOldFellow | 16 May 2007 22:52
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Re: What program do you use for web design?

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:15:12 +0200
Cedric <cedric.dewijs <at> tiscali.nl> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I recently started with building websites, and found the program
> 'nvu'. This program works OK, the only problem sofar is that it
> replaces this: <pre>
> n
> number
> of
> lines
> </pre>
> With this:
> a<br>number<br>of<br>lines
> 
> Does anybody know a solution for this?
> 
> What program do you use for webdesign, and what problems do you face
> with those programs?
> 
> Best regards,
> Cedric de WIjs

I've given up on html sites, and just use Joomla!  It means having PHP
and mySql, but that's OK for me.  And then the design is done almost
completely in CSS - for which I use gedit.

R.
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Alan Lord | 16 May 2007 23:19

Re: What program do you use for web design?

TheOldFellow wrote:
> 
> I've given up on html sites, and just use Joomla!  It means having PHP
> and mySql, but that's OK for me.  And then the design is done almost
> completely in CSS - for which I use gedit.
> 
> R.

Ditto but Bluefish to edit the CSS.

A.
> 

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Jaqui Greenlees | 17 May 2007 03:26
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Re: What program do you use for web design?


--- TheOldFellow <theoldfellow <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> I've given up on html sites, and just use Joomla! 
> It means having PHP
> and mySql, but that's OK for me.  And then the
> design is done almost
> completely in CSS - for which I use gedit.
> 
> R.

aaacckkk!!, Joomla isn't standards compliant pages and
relies heavily on javascript for functionality.
all the links on pages it generates are pure
javascript.
and I have yet to see a Joomla site validate.
[ can't validate when there are no links, yet there
are urls in the code ]

try using lynx to view a Joomla powered site.

Jaqui

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TheOldFellow | 17 May 2007 07:56
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Re: What program do you use for web design?

On Wed, 16 May 2007 21:26:06 -0400 (EDT)
Jaqui Greenlees <jaqui_greenlees <at> yahoo.ca> wrote:

> 
> --- TheOldFellow <theoldfellow <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I've given up on html sites, and just use Joomla! 
> > It means having PHP
> > and mySql, but that's OK for me.  And then the
> > design is done almost
> > completely in CSS - for which I use gedit.
> > 
> > R.
>  
> aaacckkk!!, Joomla isn't standards compliant pages and
> relies heavily on javascript for functionality.
> all the links on pages it generates are pure
> javascript.
> and I have yet to see a Joomla site validate.
> [ can't validate when there are no links, yet there
> are urls in the code ]
> 
> try using lynx to view a Joomla powered site.
> 

Interesting.  Anyone know of a CMS that is compliant?  I was betting on
Joomla-1.5, but it might not hack it.  The essential feature is user
management of content.

R.
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