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Brandon Peirce | 2 Mar 2006 20:01
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SATA drives

I saw a question on this list recently about usb kbd and mouse, so
now I ask a similar question about SATA disks....

Most of the hardware passing accross my desk is pretty old and I have
working IDE and SCSI configurations under Linux. But now SATA has arrived!
I am currently running an old LFS build a with a 2.4 kernel but preparing 
for/
progressing with a more recent version, and I would appreciate any tips on
how to access a SATA disk. Specifically:

a) What type of device this shows up as: IDE, SCSI, USB, ???
b) Which kernel drivers are needed?
c) Under which device nodes do they show up,
e.g. /dev/sdx, /dev/hdx, /dev/???,...

TIA,
Brandon

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Carlos Martín | 2 Mar 2006 20:27
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Re: SATA drives

On 02/03/06, Brandon Peirce <brandon_peirce <at> hotmail.com> wrote:
> I saw a question on this list recently about usb kbd and mouse, so
> now I ask a similar question about SATA disks....
>
> Most of the hardware passing accross my desk is pretty old and I have
> working IDE and SCSI configurations under Linux. But now SATA has arrived!
> I am currently running an old LFS build a with a 2.4 kernel but preparing
> for/
> progressing with a more recent version, and I would appreciate any tips on
> how to access a SATA disk. Specifically:
>
> a) What type of device this shows up as: IDE, SCSI, USB, ???
> b) Which kernel drivers are needed?
> c) Under which device nodes do they show up,
> e.g. /dev/sdx, /dev/hdx, /dev/???,...

I'm running my system on SATA right now. It's not on LFS, but it
should work the same.

SATA goes through SCSI at the moment, so it will be /dev/sd* and IIRC
they behave just like SCSI disks.

GRUB didn't want to find my disk saying it didn't have a BIOS
enumeration, but I havent tried all that much.

In the SCSI menu you need to activate SATA support and then the driver
for your controller.

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Carlos Martín | 2 Mar 2006 22:00
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Re: SATA drives

On 02/03/06, Andrei Mircea <mircea.andrei <at> wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> I have a SATA drive and use it with several Linux systems including LFS 6.0. All of them recognize the drive
as IDE. However, even if there is only one drive, they see it as /dev/hdc. This causes problems with some
live Linux CDs which do not boot but others see it fine.
>         Andrei

You are probably using the old (now deprecated) way. I'm using the newer one.

About GRUB, I've just checked and it has no prblems with SATA drives.
I think it complained to me because normally SCSI aren't bootable
(guessing, I've no actual idea how they work).

I did `touch /boot/findme` and in the GRUB console typed `find
/boot/findme` and it gave me the partition id.
>
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:27:24 +0100
> "Carlos Martín" <carlosmn <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 02/03/06, Brandon Peirce <brandon_peirce <at> hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I saw a question on this list recently about usb kbd and mouse, so
> > > now I ask a similar question about SATA disks....
> > >
> > > Most of the hardware passing accross my desk is pretty old and I have
> > > working IDE and SCSI configurations under Linux. But now SATA has arrived!
> > > I am currently running an old LFS build a with a 2.4 kernel but preparing
> > > for/
> > > progressing with a more recent version, and I would appreciate any tips on
> > > how to access a SATA disk. Specifically:
> > >
> > > a) What type of device this shows up as: IDE, SCSI, USB, ???
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Gerard Beekmans | 2 Mar 2006 23:08
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Quotes

Thought I'd share these two quotes with ya'll...

Geniuses never pay attention. They think they know everything already.

Theories are nothing more than substitutes for experiences put forth by 
people who have no clue what they are talking about.

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Jaqui Greenlees | 3 Mar 2006 08:56
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Re: Quotes

--- Gerard Beekmans <gerard <at> linuxfromscratch.org>
wrote:

> Thought I'd share these two quotes with ya'll...
> 
> 
> Geniuses never pay attention. They think they know
> everything already.
> 
> Theories are nothing more than substitutes for
> experiences put forth by 
> people who have no clue what they are talking about.
> 

~chuckle~

and for more hunour..

http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

Jaqui

Jeff Henager: "If the average user can put a CD in and boot the system and follow the prompts, he can install
and use Linux. If he can't do that simple task, he doesn't need to be around technology."

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Richard A Downing | 3 Mar 2006 09:55
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Re: Quotes

Jaqui Greenlees wrote:
> --- Gerard Beekmans <gerard <at> linuxfromscratch.org>
> wrote:
> 

>> Theories are nothing more than substitutes for
>> experiences put forth by 
>> people who have no clue what they are talking about.
>>

> 
> Jeff Henager: "If the average user can put a CD in and boot the system and
follow the prompts, he can install and use Linux. If he can't do that simple
task, he doesn't need to be around technology."

This is just Jeff Henager's theory, however.

and what was that other quote, I wasn't paying attention?

R.

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Jaqui Greenlees | 3 Mar 2006 10:55
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Re: Quotes


--- Richard A Downing <richard <at> langside.org.uk> wrote:

> Jaqui Greenlees wrote:

~snip~

> This is just Jeff Henager's theory, however.
> 
> and what was that other quote, I wasn't paying
> attention?
> 
> R.
>

Actually, Jeff wasn't talking about the type of user
that would be interested in linux from scratch, he was
talking about the average windows user using a distro
like Xandros, linspire, ubuntu kubuntu vector, yellow
dog, ....

you mean the Linux != Windows page? ~l~

Jaqui

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and use Linux. If he can't do that simple task, he doesn't need to be around technology."

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Brandon Peirce | 3 Mar 2006 11:35
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Re: Quotes

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:55:56 +0000 Richard A Downing wrote:

>and what was that other quote, I wasn't paying attention?

Um... I don't think Gerard's quote was meant to be it's own inverse...
I.e.  just 'cos you don't listen doesn't automatically make you a genius ;-)

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Andrei Mircea | 2 Mar 2006 20:53
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Re: SATA drives

I have a SATA drive and use it with several Linux systems including LFS 6.0. All of them recognize the drive as
IDE. However, even if there is only one drive, they see it as /dev/hdc. This causes problems with some live
Linux CDs which do not boot but others see it fine.
	Andrei 

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:27:24 +0100
"Carlos Martín" <carlosmn <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> On 02/03/06, Brandon Peirce <brandon_peirce <at> hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I saw a question on this list recently about usb kbd and mouse, so
> > now I ask a similar question about SATA disks....
> >
> > Most of the hardware passing accross my desk is pretty old and I have
> > working IDE and SCSI configurations under Linux. But now SATA has arrived!
> > I am currently running an old LFS build a with a 2.4 kernel but preparing
> > for/
> > progressing with a more recent version, and I would appreciate any tips on
> > how to access a SATA disk. Specifically:
> >
> > a) What type of device this shows up as: IDE, SCSI, USB, ???
> > b) Which kernel drivers are needed?
> > c) Under which device nodes do they show up,
> > e.g. /dev/sdx, /dev/hdx, /dev/???,...
> 
> I'm running my system on SATA right now. It's not on LFS, but it
> should work the same.
> 
> SATA goes through SCSI at the moment, so it will be /dev/sd* and IIRC
> they behave just like SCSI disks.
>
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Steven | 4 Mar 2006 16:28
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museum of patches

Is there a museum of patches?  Specifically I'm looking for patches from
the 3.2 and 5.1.1 books.

TIA,

Steven
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