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Randy McMurchy | 1 Sep 2005 05:38
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New Orleans, Louisiana

Hi all,

A brief story about my 18 year old son.

He graduated from High School in May of this year. Because of his
hard work in the classroom, and his athletic excellence, he was
offered a 5 year scholarship to Tulane University. They pay for
his education, he plays football for them.

What a deal, huh?

Anyway, as many of you probably know, Tulane University is located
in New Orleans, Louisiana. New Orleans was recently hit by hurricane
Katrina and is now a completely paralyzed city. I have many relatives
that live in and around New Orleans, all of whom were smart enough
to vacate the city before the hurricane hit.

My son was directed to report to the University a few weeks ago
to begin fall workouts in preparation for the upcoming season.
Unbelievably, my son is probably not going to be red-shirted and
will be suiting out to be available to play this season. He doesn't
have a starting spot, but will play some special teams and is right
now a 2nd string linebacker.

Tulane was scheduled to play Southern Mississippi this coming Sunday,
with the game being televised on ESPN2, however, the game has been
canceled and tentatively rescheduled for after Thanksgiving.

The football team evacuated New Orleans and went to Jackson, Mississippi
before the storm hit. However, due to the storm's ravaging of Jackson,
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Michael Kipper | 1 Sep 2005 19:09
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Running a firstboot Script

Hi all,

I need some advice from more experienced LFS'ers.

Right now, I build my LFS systems (all two of them) by a customized
scripted build, which makes it easy to upgrade packages whenever a new
kernel, glibc, gcc, etc. comes out.

When the build is over, it puts a S99firstboot symlink in rc3.d, and
reboots the system, which takes over on reboot, and builds things like X,
KDE, and other BLFS stuff. This lets me run a full rebuild, which takes
quite a few hours, overnight. When it's done, the firstboot script removes
the symlink and itself.

The problem comes when I come in the morning, and it's not done yet,
because it's still building time intensive things like Firefox,
Thunderbird, KDevelop etc. The problem is, the ttys have not been started
yet, so I can't do anything interactive.

What I'd really like is to run this script on tty9 or something, so I can
start X and do other stuff without interrupting the build. How would/do you
do this? Personal anecdotes requested :)

Thanks,
Michael

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Mike Hernandez | 1 Sep 2005 20:00
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Fwd: Announce: OpenSSH 4.2 released

Just FYI!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Damien Miller <djm <at> cvs.openbsd.org>
Date: Sep 1, 2005 9:21 AM
Subject: Announce: OpenSSH 4.2 released
To: announce <at> openbsd.org

OpenSSH 4.2 has just been released. It will be available from the
mirrors listed at http://www.openssh.com/ shortly.

OpenSSH is a 100% complete SSH protocol version 1.3, 1.5 and 2.0
implementation and includes sftp client and server support.

We would like to thank the OpenSSH community for their continued
support of the project, especially those who contributed source,
reported bugs, tested snapshots and purchased T-shirts or posters.

T-shirt, poster and CD sales directly support the project. Pictures
and more information can be found at:
        http://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html and
        http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html

For international orders use http://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order
and for European orders, use http://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu

Changes since OpenSSH 4.1:
============================

  - SECURITY: Fix a bug introduced in OpenSSH 4.0 that caused
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Ag Hatzim | 1 Sep 2005 21:55
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Re: New Orleans, Louisiana

Randy McMurchy(randy <at> linuxfromscratch.org) <at> Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:38:07PM -0500:
> 
> 
Hi Randy.

Bad day for United States.
My condolences to the families that loosed their favorites.
I really wonder if they will try to build the city again.

In a happier note,Randy my friend i am happy for your son,but...

[common joke]
Why you americans insist to call a game that is playing with hands.
football,when this name clearly belongs to "what you falsely call
soccer"?
[/common joke]
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Allard Welter | 2 Sep 2005 00:31
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Re: Running a firstboot Script

On Thursday 01 September 2005 19:09, Michael Kipper wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need some advice from more experienced LFS'ers.

[...]

> The problem comes when I come in the morning,

Why should this be a problem?

> and it's not done yet, 

Ah, I see :)

> because it's still building time intensive things like Firefox,
> Thunderbird, KDevelop etc. The problem is, the ttys have not been
> started yet, so I can't do anything interactive.

Seriously though, why haven't you any tty's? Surely this is just a 
matter of rebooting to the appropriate run level.
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Joshua Murphy | 2 Sep 2005 00:54
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Re: Running a firstboot Script

perhaps you can set the firstboot script to run from another startup
script and invoke it in the background, then replace the other altered
startup script with a vanilla copy after firstboot is done? that way,
you finish booting to the point that init loads the getty's for login,
while firstboot continues in the background ... or else use a double
script setup, doing anything that needs done before login, then
invoking a script to finish up in the background from there ...

also, any chance i could get a copy of your scripts? it would make
setting up my own much easier if i had something to start with :-)

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Michael Kipper | 2 Sep 2005 05:37
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My Automated Build Scripts

Hi all,

Joshua Murphy requested a look at my scripts, so I thought I'd let you take
a look at them. They're *extremely* rough, and right now are explicitly
designed to build LFS on my amd64.

I would really love it if someone else wants to help me iron them out, and
try to make them very generic. Don't bother asking why I did certain
things; it was probably really late, and I hadn't had any caffeine. Like
you, LFS is a part-time thing.

I've pet-named my scripts makeLFS, and they have a sister, makeBLFS.
I've been storing them on my university shell, which has SSH access only,
but wouldn't mind offloading them somewhere that has developer access, like
the general LFS cvs (svn?) server, if someone wants to help out with that.

You can browse my CVS, and grab a tarball, at:

http://flash.lakeheadu.ca/~mkipper/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/makelfs/
http://flash.lakeheadu.ca/~mkipper/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/makeblfs/

The BLFS scripts are *way* out of date, as I kinda reconfigured a lot of
stuff in my sandbox recently.

Constructive feedback welcome!

-mk

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Matt Darcy | 2 Sep 2005 10:38
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Re: My Automated Build Scripts

Michael Kipper wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Joshua Murphy requested a look at my scripts, so I thought I'd let you take
>a look at them. They're *extremely* rough, and right now are explicitly
>designed to build LFS on my amd64.
>
>
>
>Constructive feedback welcome!
>  
>

Hello Mark,

my question / comments are as follows

1.) Why do this ? There is an official automation project (alfs) ?
2.) Why make these available to the list when they are to build (I 
assume) a 32bit system on YOUR amd64 - with YOUR motherboard, harddisk, 
graphics card etc etc

Why not support the alfs project if your interested in the automation side ?

Matt

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Michael Kipper | 2 Sep 2005 16:14
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Re: My Automated Build Scripts

On 02 Sep 2005, you wrote in lfs.chat:

> Hello Mark,

It's Michael, but no problem.

> 
> my question / comments are as follows
> 
> 1.) Why do this ? There is an official automation project (alfs) ?

Okay, some background is in order. These scripts were originally written 
and used with LFS 4.x, on my pentium 4. ALFS was not an option for me, 
as I was learning, and wanted to enter the commands myself. Problem was, 
as most LFS noobs do, I would make a mistake that would require me to 
start over. 

So, third time around, I started putting the commands for each script in 
a bash script, rather than having to type them in a fourth time. Then, 
rather than rebuilding each package every time one screwed up, I added 
the logfile guards to prevent rebuilding a target. That logically made 
the switch to make a good idea, and then I forgot about it for a long 
while.

Then I got my AMD64. So I started tinkering with my old scripts, to add 
lib64 support to them. I made them a little prettier, and more uniform 
along the way, and here we are.

> 2.) Why make these available to the list when they are to build (I 
> assume) a 32bit system on YOUR amd64 - with YOUR motherboard,
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stephan sperber | 2 Sep 2005 16:39
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useradd and php

hi guys!

i am not subscribed to the list, so please cc me.

i have _hlfs_ installd with sudo, apache 2-0-54, php 5.0.4, and chrootssh-
patch.
i try to get useradd working, but it isnt that easy like i thought in the 
first place.
my php-scriptstep for creating a new user is:

shell_exec("/usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/useradd -d /srv/chroot/./
home/".strtolower($_POST[name])." -g sftpuser -s /bin/bash -p ".md5
(strip_tags($_POST[pwd]))." ".strtolower($_POST[name]))

this even works and creates a new user, like i expected.
the problem is now, that the password isnt accepted, so the user cant 
login.
in etc/shadow then stands the md5sum of password.
but in shadow there is another encryption than md5 needed... (yes i have 
md5 passwords enabled, in that how the hlfs book says).

has anybody any idea how to let this work? what kind of encryption do i 
need to get the useradd command woking as expected?

thx for any information and input!

yours
stephan

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