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Alexander E. Patrakov | 1 Jun 2004 05:18

Re: LFS-unstable stability...

Dominic L Hilsbos wrote:
> How stable is the current LFS-unstable on a i686 platform?  I'd really 
> like to upgrade my linux desktop to a 2.6 kernel, but I also want to 
> move it to LFS, however I'm getting a little impatient waiting for LFS 
> 6.0.  If the current unstable is still relatively stable, then I'll 
> build that and go on about my merry way.

There are known bugs in hotplug, udev and bootscripts. Also, BLFS 
doesn't build in full (requires patching).

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Dominic L Hilsbos | 1 Jun 2004 17:23
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Re: (Mini) ISP Revisited & pppd help? ... Solved!

I finally have it working 100% correctly.  It ended up being quite a 
simple thing, as such problems often are ;-).

Mandrake had at some time (either when it installed pppd, or when it set 
it up to dial out in order to test the modem) written a default 
/etc/ppp/options file.  I can't tell you how many times I read the man 
page for pppd, and all about the fact that it read options, 
options.ttyX, and anything specified on the command line, yet I never 
thought to check the contents of the default options file.  Checked it, 
and sure enough the one option that I knew I DID NOT want (persist) was 
in there.  Solution I emptied the /etc/ppp/options file, and voila it 
worked! Now to see about the speed issues, 20kbps isn't really 
acceptable with v.92 modems at both ends.

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Archaic | 1 Jun 2004 19:36
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Re: (Mini) ISP Revisited & pppd help? ... Solved!

On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 11:23:53AM -0400, Dominic L Hilsbos wrote:
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> 20kbps isn't really acceptable with v.92 modems at both ends.

Huh? 20 is more than any phone modem can do. Did you mean 2? Also,
it use to be that 56K modems could only do 33.6 upload speed. Not sure
if this is still true or not.

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Ian Molton | 1 Jun 2004 19:41

Re: (Mini) ISP Revisited & pppd help? ... Solved!

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 12:36:31 -0500
Archaic <archaic <at> indy.rr.com> wrote:

> Huh? 20 is more than any phone modem can do.

I think he meant Kb not kb or KB ;-)
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John Gay | 1 Jun 2004 20:11
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Re: [ILUG] Patent issues

On Mon 31 May 2004 23:20, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 10:22:06PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > ATM, The Irish Government is of the oppinion that the only people against
> > software patents are 'long-haired, radical, Linux fanatics' that think
> > all software should be free.
>
> They're largely correct in that. That's the real problem.
>
> > We need to let our MEP's know that it's not just Linux people who are
> > opposed to software patents. We need small and medium sized software
> > companies to write to the ministers and explain how software patents will
> > prevent them from innovating in the software industry.
>
> So why are you wasting your time mailing ILUG? Try IBEC, IMI, ISME and
> so on.
>
Because many people on these lists, even though they use Linux, and probably 
program Linux, I'm sure there are those who work for small and medium sized 
software companies. Even companies that don't use Linux.

But thanks for the pointers. I'll get onto those sites and see where I get 
with them.

> > We need the large software companies to explain how they use software
> > patents to block such innovations from the smaller sector.
>
> Why would they want to do that?
>
Wishfull thinking (-;
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James Robertson | 1 Jun 2004 20:50
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Linux gets 802.11g Intel Centrino driver

For those that have a new laptop...

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39156340,00.htm

I have been waiting for this.  I have an IBM T-40 with centrino support 
and have been stuck on Windoze because of it.

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Colm MacCarthaigh | 1 Jun 2004 21:51
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Re: [ILUG] Patent issues

On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 07:11:45PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > I would avoid mentioning MP3 if my ultimate aim was to convince
> > legislators of something. Also, a European company benefited from the
> > MP3 restrictions, so it loses some of the self-interest argument.
> >
> This is a case of explaining the diference between the piracy that mp3 are 
> most famous for and the actual uses of mp3. After all, it is derived from the 
> mpeg standard for video compression. It's also integral to digital broadcasts 
> and DVD formats. These are areas where the small guys are being pushed out by 
> the patent issue.

Trust me, as a lobbyist, you really want to cut down the number of
complicated arguments you have to make. People are going to hear "MP3"
and form a mental association with copyright violation and filesharing
ththat you'll have to waste time getting them over.  Do yourself a
favour and don't mention it in the first place.

> This is not pointless rhetoric, this is a very serious issue. Because no one 
> could be bothered to say something before Ireland accepted the BBE (Big Brown 
> Envelop) from a certain Redmond-based company and un-did over a years worth 
> of campaining throughout Europe, we now have very little time to correct it.

It absolutely is pointless rhetoric, real lobbying works in the real
world, Email is almost entirely ineffective.  And it won't serve you
well to cast the situation as the above, that big brown envelope was
8,000 jobs in the economy. These are serious economic matters, and to be
honest it's a lot less clear cut. Software patents would probably be
good for our economy in the short term, and you have to start seeing
thigns in such a narrow and zealous manner to have a hope of making a
good convincing argument.
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mrnobby | 2 Jun 2004 22:45

Re: Europeans need to act against Irelands fumble with softwarepattents.


"Richard A Downing FBCS" <richard <at> 109bean.org.uk> wrote in message
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>      Aux armes, citoyens,
>      Formez vos bataillons,
>      Marchons, marchons !
>      Qu'un sang impur
>      Abreuve nos sillons !
>
> Only my plan is to use the politicians and bureaucrats from Brussells
> for the blood.
Yummy, some Euro black puddings perhaps. As long as the blood has been
pasteurised and it's type 'O'. And the puddings themselves do not have a
curve of more than 3 degrees.

Mr Nobby.

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mrnobby | 2 Jun 2004 23:13

Re: LFS on my i386/20


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> I have taken it upon myself to fulfil my masochistic desires and
compile
> LFS 5.0 on the following machine:

Results for binutils, gcc, coreutils, zlib lfsutils, findutils, gawk &
ncurses at http://www.manik.mina.dsl.pipex.com/lfsbuild/

There are also some LARGE pics of "Slave"'s innards.

With the completion of GCC, I feel that I have turned the last corner
and at last started on the home straight. By my calculations, I have
about 3 weeks of back-to-back package compiling left. This will probably
turn out to be 4-5 weeks of actual time.

Mr Nobby.

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John Gay | 2 Jun 2004 23:23
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Interesting Arcade game!

I was in a video arcade the other day, chacking out the new games since I used 
to spend small fortunes there. As I walked around, looking at the great 
tandem driving games, and the dancing games, and the shooting, slashing and 
general mahem games, I heard some familiar music?

I turned to see and very normal looking arcade game box, with the typical 
screen and controllers, but something was very different about this one.

The game seemed to be some type of skiing game with a familar twist. Instead 
of the regular person, the character was a small, chubby penguin who slid 
bown the slopes on his belly and tried to catch fish for points.

The name of this game was 'Tux Racer'! and it was the same one I used to curse 
at on my old debian box because I didn't have 3D acceleration!

I suppose the next time I'm there I'll find Flightgear and Torcs (-;

Cheers,

	John Gay
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