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Nick Matteo | 1 Apr 2004 03:17
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Re: glfs

John Gay wrote:
>>I had an idea recently:  Why not rename the Linux From Scratch project
>>to GNU/Linux From Scratch?
>>The reason is simply that I think glfs looks better, and mostly can
>>actually be pronounced.  It's obviously said "gulfs," which is much
> 
> Funny, when I saw it, I thought it should be pronounced "glifs"
> 
>>easier to say than all the letters L-F-S -- one syllable instead of
>>three, and two of those hissy!
>>In fact, the U in GNU gives adequate reason to call it GuLFS, if you
>>want to be crazy like that.
> 
> I'm sure RMS would like it (-:

Well, doesn't he have a point, especially with (g)lfs?

I mean, out of 54 or so packages that are in the book, 1 is Linux, and 
about 33 are GNU.  Even by package size instead of number, GNU packages 
are nearly 3 times bigger than Linux, and form the majority of all the 
packages -- 81 mb of GNU vs. 56 mb of everything else, by my calculations.
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Don Smith | 1 Apr 2004 06:28
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Re: glfs

Nick Matteo wrote:

> Ian Molton wrote:
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>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:47:39 -0500
>> Nick Matteo <nam14 <at> cwru.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> :-\  I wouldn't consider myself militant.  I just think that glfs 
>>> would be easier to say.
>>
>>
>>
>> You *are* kidding right? LOL:)
>>
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> What?  As i explained in my first mail, it's clearly pronounced "gulfs" 
> which is one syllable vs. 3 syllables, two of them hissy and thus hard 
> to say together, in LFS.

What's so hard about "lifs"? (or lafs, lefs, lofs, lufs, loafs, loofas, 
etc.)

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Don Smith | 1 Apr 2004 06:32
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Re: quiet hard disks

Ian Molton wrote:

>>My hardisk - Quantum Fireball
> 
> Gack. mechanically sound, but noisy and the electronics doesnt take
> power interruption well. (mine lived up to its name...)
> 

What? You used it for target practice in your synchrotron?

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Dirk | 1 Apr 2004 10:07
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Re: glfs

Don Smith (dss-lfs <at> cfl.rr.com) wrote:
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> What's so hard about "lifs"? (or lafs, lefs, lofs, lufs, loafs, loofas, 
> etc.)
> 
>
I kind of like the ethnic approach,  some thing like El-efs ( single
sylable + preposition)(I think)

Dirk

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Ian Molton | 1 Apr 2004 10:29

Re: quiet hard disks

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:32:28 -0500
Don Smith <dss-lfs <at> cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> > Gack. mechanically sound, but noisy and the electronics doesnt take
> > power interruption well. (mine lived up to its name...)
> > 
> 
> What? You used it for target practice in your synchrotron?

Mmmm. synchrotron...

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Rainer Peter Feller | 1 Apr 2004 10:35
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Re: quiet hard disks

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Ian Molton wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:32:28 -0500
> Don Smith <dss-lfs <at> cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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> > > Gack. mechanically sound, but noisy and the electronics doesnt take
> > > power interruption well. (mine lived up to its name...)
> > >
> >
> > What? You used it for target practice in your synchrotron?
>
> Mmmm. synchrotron...

you have a synchroton there at home? AMAZING!
which level of energy do you reach, and which particles do you accelerate?
are you using dipol-, quatropol- or higher magnets?
what is your avarage electricity bill?

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CUH Rainer Peter Feller
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Ian Molton | 1 Apr 2004 10:47

Re: quiet hard disks

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:35:43 +0200
Rainer Peter Feller <rainer <at> maren.desy.de> wrote:

> > > What? You used it for target practice in your synchrotron?
> >
> > Mmmm. synchrotron...
> 
> you have a synchroton there at home? AMAZING!

Hehe. I wish ;-)

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Archaic | 1 Apr 2004 13:32
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Re: glfs

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 08:17:33PM -0500, Nick Matteo wrote:
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> I mean, out of 54 or so packages that are in the book, 1 is Linux, and 
> about 33 are GNU.  Even by package size instead of number, GNU packages 
> are nearly 3 times bigger than Linux, and form the majority of all the 
> packages -- 81 mb of GNU vs. 56 mb of everything else, by my calculations.

For one who has taken the time to not only count the packages, but their
download and install sizes, and compared GNU to non-GNU software, you
have convinced me your are the militant type. (As if your comment about
domination didn't convince me).

I am glad you decided to use lfs-chat for this, at least. But I can save
you some time by telling you this has been brought up before and it has
always and most likely will always be shot down. But, if you just want
to think out loud, go ahead. :) Just don't get mad when people consider
it a non-issue.

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Stefan Krah | 1 Apr 2004 14:58
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Re: quiet hard disks

Rainer Peter Feller <rainer <at> maren.desy.de> wrote:
                                  ^^^^^^^
Hey, don't look down on us poor home synchrotron users. :)

> > > What? You used it for target practice in your synchrotron?
> >
> > Mmmm. synchrotron...
> 
> you have a synchroton there at home? AMAZING!
> which level of energy do you reach, and which particles do you accelerate?
> are you using dipol-, quatropol- or higher magnets?
> what is your avarage electricity bill?

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Miguel Bazdresch | 1 Apr 2004 15:55

Re: quiet hard disks

* Ian Molton <spyro <at> f2s.com> [2004-04-01 12:57]:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:54:06 +0200
> Miguel Bazdresch <lfs-01 <at> thewizardstower.org> wrote:
> 
> > > once I got a replacement logic board both my two drives (both died
> > > in the same accident - a 5V-12V short (voltmeter on amps mode,
> > > doh!))
> > 
> > Are you saying that a seagate would survive that?
> 
> Cant speak for the current range but the SCSI Seagate barracuda I had in
> the machine at the time simply powered down to save itself. It still
> works to this day.
> 
> > I would hardly say that an ic designed for 5v that gives up the smoke
> > when subjected to 12v "sucks" :)
> 
> A motor drive control should be a robust chip. *very* short power
> failure should be accomodated in any good design.

OK Ian, you hit me in a soft spot: robustness is my #1 criteria for good
design (I did ASIC design for five years). Also, you hadn't said it was
a very brief short.

I still say that it's very harsh and unfair to say that the electronics
of a drive "suck" and are "lousy" because they can't stand a shock that
won't happen 99.99999% of the time. I think you'll agree that Mercedes
cars are generally robust? Yet the fact they won't withstand, for
instance, lightning, doesn't make them suck IMO.
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