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torsten | 1 Mar 2003 01:04

Re: ARM Business ideas

On Fri the 28 Feb 2003 at 21 hours EST
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>On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:32:17 +0000  Mister Ian just wrote the following:
>
>> 
>> I'll let you know when I get my dev board.
>> 
>
>Reading the thread... I wonder if such (or other) board is capable of
>(soft)RAID... The thought of low-noise HD's (2/4x) with 100/1000Mb Eth.
>is atractive.... I combo with hdparm... Yes, low respons is the result,
>but the (power)savings are worth it (IMO) for home-use...
>
>I see it all... A small A5-sized board with soft-Raid and for discs with
>100GB each... In a small case with one quiet fan... Drooool....
>One NFS-server... maybe with wireless (secured)... sentral storage
>independant of achitecture. Ext3 is Ext3... Nice if I say so myself...

For $150 USD you can get a fully-hardware RAID board, which has
native GPL Linux drivers that implement the SCSI protocol, but
writes IDE's on the backend.  I don't think the ARM is the best
solution for this.

Torsten
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Ian Molton | 1 Mar 2003 01:20

Re: ARM Business ideas

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:04:31 -0500
torsten <torsten <at> inetw.net> wrote:

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> 
> For $150 USD you can get a fully-hardware RAID board, which has
> native GPL Linux drivers that implement the SCSI protocol, but
> writes IDE's on the backend.  I don't think the ARM is the best
> solution for this.

On the contrary - ARMs make great IO processors... the IOPxxx range are
designed for it.
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Steve Bougerolle | 1 Mar 2003 01:24

Re: What do you guys make of this?


On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 03:00, Rob Park wrote:

> Somebody on the local LUG pointed out the 'freetechbooks' link, it
> didn't take long to find LFS there... seemed a bit odd ;)

Why?  Looks like good advertising to me.

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Jason Gurtz | 1 Mar 2003 05:52

RE: ARM Business ideas

Ian Molton [spyro <at> f2s.com] wrote:
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> tphhec01 <at> degas.ceu.hu (Csaba Henk) wrote:
>> 
>> then, I think, you can safely plug off the
>> fan of the power supply.
> 
> You would almost CERTAINLY shorten the life of the PSU.

Roger that, hehe, not to mention rouge capaciter discharge wilst
plugging off the fan  *g*.  Better off for the user to buy a nice power
supply such as one in the "true power" line from Antec featuring among
other things a fan that varies speed depending on temperature.  Hmm, one
would even get stable output voltages and plenty of reserve capacity.
*sigh* everyone wants a cheap piece of junk that dies in a year  :/

Cheers,

~Jason

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Jason Gurtz | 1 Mar 2003 06:01

Other Os's on ARM

Jochen Schröder [jschrod <at> uni-muenster.de] wrote:
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> all this talk about the ARM laptops made me think about other uses or
> low power computers. Have you thought about cable
> modem/routers/firewalls, file-/print-/mail-servers.

For some reason (Cisco uses at least some Plan 9 code in the PIX
firewall) this made me think of plan 9 which IIRC has an ARM port.  Then
there is Inferno <http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/index.html> and how
about QNX or certainly NetBSD.

So much interesting stuff could run on this lappy  =)

~Jason

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Oliver Martin | 1 Mar 2003 07:46
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Re: Linux Laptop

Ian Molton schrieb:
[...]
>>Can it *at least* run OpenOffice?
>>Would it be possible AT_ALL?
> 
> 
> Thats a major goal of the design (or at least, AN office suite).
> 
[...]

Is that that much of hassle? Does OO contain some x86 assembler code or 
what? So, if porting apps can cause so many troubles, will it be able to 
run Bochs with Win98? If so, and if it's going to have a 3d chip, will 
that be usable from Bochs? (ok, that's a Bochs question, but I don't 
know that much about it)

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Ian Molton | 1 Mar 2003 13:35

Re: Other Os's on ARM

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 05:02:10 +0000 (UTC)
jason <at> tommyk.com ("Jason Gurtz") wrote:

> Then there is Inferno <http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/index.html>
> and how about QNX or certainly NetBSD.

QNX does and netbsd. also RISC OS.

> So much interesting stuff could run on this lappy  =)

There are literally dozens of OSes you can run on an ARM. I would
endeavour to make the bootloader boot any resonable ones (although maybe
as an after-release patch).
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Ian Molton | 1 Mar 2003 13:40

Re: Linux Laptop

On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:46:48 +0100
Oliver Martin <oliver.martin <at> i-one.at> wrote:

> > Thats a major goal of the design (or at least, AN office suite).
> > 
> [...]
> 
> Is that that much of hassle? Does OO contain some x86 assembler code
> or what?

I doubt it. The point is that OO is *absolutely fscking massive* and if
anything will provoke an obscure compiler bug, its *absolutely fscking
massive* sources...

> So, if porting apps can cause so many troubles,

Its not, trust me - I've built all of gnome with NO mods before, incl.
sawfish.

The trick will be getting things to run FAST. many critical libs on X86
have assembler optimisations. the ARM has none of these.

> will it be able to run Bochs with Win98?

I dont see why not, if bochs emulator is cross platform at all, it could
be got to work. It *wouldnt* be fast though. an *optimised* emulator
*might* get speeds between a 386 and low end 486. A JIT would be able to
hit 586 speeds on a FAST ARM, but it would be a massive undertaking.

> If so, and if it's going to have a 3d
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R. Bosch | 1 Mar 2003 14:07
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Re: Linux Laptop

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:40:35 +0000  Mister Ian just wrote the following:

> I doubt it. The point is that OO is *absolutely fscking massive* and
> if anything will provoke an obscure compiler bug, its *absolutely
> fscking massive* sources...

That wasnt't the problem... I was talking about Java. As far as I know
OO needs sun's java... As far as I know, there's no full-fleshed java
implementation... Cross compilng? Not sure wether that's possible
at_all... Someone knows more abot this?? If there's a good Java
implementation with some mozilla cruft, OO wouldn't be far behind....

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R. Bosch | 1 Mar 2003 14:16
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Re: ARM Business ideas

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:20:17 +0000  Mister Ian just wrote the following:

>  I don't think the ARM is the best
> > solution for this.
> 
> On the contrary - ARMs make great IO processors... the IOPxxx range
> are designed for it.

Depends on what type of Raid. I thing Raid5 need math-support... The
again that could be done by a good raid-controler...

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