Bruce Dubbs | 1 Mar 01:50 2012
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Re: stunnel

Qrux wrote:
> HTTP link points to the homepage, not the actual download.

Upstream redirects to the home page if it can't find the file.  They 
don't keep historical versions, so that's why we get the home page. 
Evidently they've upgraded from 4.46 to 4.52 since November - more than 
once a month.  That makes it pretty hard for us to keep up.

> Why does BLFS install an /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf that has this line:
> 
> 	chroot = /var/lib/stunnel
> 
> Other services (e.g., BIND), along with LSB/FSB stating that services
> should now be run in /srv. Thoughts about moving the chroot jail?

Well it's pretty much up to the user.  We look at /srv for data that may 
be served: ftp, http, svn, mailman, bind, etc.  A service like stunnel 
seems more appropriate for /var, but that's just a personal preference.

> 	useradd -c "Stunnel Daemon" -d /var/lib/stunnel \
>         -g stunnel -s /bin/false -u 51 stunnel
> 
> Typically, chroot daemon users get a home dir of /dev/null, which is
typically *after* root chroots. From the look of things, it looks like
there's a host chroot-jail of /var/lib/stunnel, and then a user stunnel
that lives inside that chroot, and expects its home dir to be
/var/lib/stunnel once inside the chroot.
> 
> So...Does the daemon run as the stunnel user *BEFORE* the chroot??
That would be the only reason the stunnel user needs a home directory
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Andrew Benton | 1 Mar 02:22 2012
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Re: New BLFS Editor

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:56:56 +0000
Ken Moffat <zarniwhoop <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  The BLFS editors are pleased to announce that Ragnar Thomsen has
> accepted the invitation to join their number.
> 
>  Ragnar has recently contributed patches for KDE4 related items.
> Please join me in welcoming Ragnar to the BLFS community.

Indeed. Welcome Ragnar!

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Andrew Benton | 1 Mar 03:08 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:50:51 -0800
Nathan Coulson <conathan <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> **gptfdisk**
> I suppose we already have parted for handing gpt in blfs, but this is
> the utility I prefer.
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/gptfdisk/gptfdisk/0.8.2/gptfdisk-0.8.2.tar.gz
> 
> make && install -m755 gdisk cgdisk sgdisk fixparts  /usr/sbin
> 
> comes with gdisk (like fdisk), cgdisk, and sgdisk as well as fixparts
> [not sure what fixparts does yet].

Thanks to your message I've spent some time playing with gpt today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
and I now think there's a good case for putting gptfdisk into LFS.
fdisk and cfdisk are installed in LFS but if you have a GUID partition
table they're no use. I think gptfdisk should be in LFS.

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Bruce Dubbs | 1 Mar 04:04 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities

Andrew Benton wrote:

> Thanks to your message I've spent some time playing with gpt today
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
> and I now think there's a good case for putting gptfdisk into LFS.
> fdisk and cfdisk are installed in LFS but if you have a GUID partition
> table they're no use. I think gptfdisk should be in LFS.

What about parted which is already in BLFS?

Actually, I think BLFS may be good enough.  We would need parted on the 
host system.  If we need it after we boot into LFS, it can be built via 
BLFS.

Also, util-linux plans to add GPT support into fdisk in version 2.22. 
That's probably six months away.

I'm open to gptfdisk, but would like to see more discussion.

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Nathan Coulson | 1 Mar 05:38 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew Benton wrote:
>
>> Thanks to your message I've spent some time playing with gpt today
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
>> and I now think there's a good case for putting gptfdisk into LFS.
>> fdisk and cfdisk are installed in LFS but if you have a GUID partition
>> table they're no use. I think gptfdisk should be in LFS.
>
> What about parted which is already in BLFS?
>
> Actually, I think BLFS may be good enough.  We would need parted on the
> host system.  If we need it after we boot into LFS, it can be built via
> BLFS.
>
> Also, util-linux plans to add GPT support into fdisk in version 2.22.
> That's probably six months away.
>
> I'm open to gptfdisk, but would like to see more discussion.
>
>   -- Bruce

for myself, I have always liked fdisk's style to parted, which is
probably why I went to gptfdisk all those years ago.  If I recall,
parted has less control over the partition types then fdisk/gptfdisk
(ex:/ I couldn't make a boot partition).  that was a year or two ago
though...

but, if util-linux has this on their radar, I'd be content to wait for
util-linux to bring it in.  (or remove gptfdisk [if added]when
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Nathan Coulson | 1 Mar 05:44 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Coulson <conathan <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrew Benton wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to your message I've spent some time playing with gpt today
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
>>> and I now think there's a good case for putting gptfdisk into LFS.
>>> fdisk and cfdisk are installed in LFS but if you have a GUID partition
>>> table they're no use. I think gptfdisk should be in LFS.
>>
>> What about parted which is already in BLFS?
>>
>> Actually, I think BLFS may be good enough.  We would need parted on the
>> host system.  If we need it after we boot into LFS, it can be built via
>> BLFS.
>>
>> Also, util-linux plans to add GPT support into fdisk in version 2.22.
>> That's probably six months away.
>>
>> I'm open to gptfdisk, but would like to see more discussion.
>>
>>   -- Bruce
>
> for myself, I have always liked fdisk's style to parted, which is
> probably why I went to gptfdisk all those years ago.  If I recall,
> parted has less control over the partition types then fdisk/gptfdisk
> (ex:/ I couldn't make a boot partition).  that was a year or two ago
> though...
>
> but, if util-linux has this on their radar, I'd be content to wait for
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Qrux | 1 Mar 05:46 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities


On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrew Benton wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks to your message I've spent some time playing with gpt today
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
>>> and I now think there's a good case for putting gptfdisk into LFS.
>>> fdisk and cfdisk are installed in LFS but if you have a GUID partition
>>> table they're no use. I think gptfdisk should be in LFS.
>> 
>> What about parted which is already in BLFS?
>> 
>> Actually, I think BLFS may be good enough.  We would need parted on the
>> host system.  If we need it after we boot into LFS, it can be built via
>> BLFS.

Assuming LFS isn't the host...

>> Also, util-linux plans to add GPT support into fdisk in version 2.22.
>> That's probably six months away.
>> 
>> I'm open to gptfdisk, but would like to see more discussion.
>> 
>>   -- Bruce
> 
> for myself, I have always liked fdisk's style to parted, which is
> probably why I went to gptfdisk all those years ago.  If I recall,
> parted has less control over the partition types then fdisk/gptfdisk
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Andrew Benton | 1 Mar 11:43 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:04:33 -0600
Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, util-linux plans to add GPT support into fdisk in version 2.22. 
> That's probably six months away.

Thanks, that's good news.

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Bruce Dubbs | 1 Mar 06:26 2012
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Re: other filesystem utilities

Nathan Coulson wrote:

> for myself, I have always liked fdisk's style to parted, which is
> probably why I went to gptfdisk all those years ago.  If I recall,
> parted has less control over the partition types then fdisk/gptfdisk
> (ex:/ I couldn't make a boot partition).  that was a year or two ago
> though...

Yes, setting the partition type is a little tricky and I do prefer the 
fdisk syntax.  It is nice to be able to set the units in parted.

I haven't used gptfdisk so I can't really compare.

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Ragnar Thomsen | 1 Mar 19:57 2012
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Re: New BLFS Editor & the KDE4 section


Thanks for the welcome guys.

As Ken noted  I have contributed with some patches for KDE4 packages.

I will be updating the KDE4 section to version 4.8 in the immediate future.

I have been running KDE4.8 on my LFS7.0 system since it got released.
The build instructions already in the book are pretty good,
but some configuration needs to be done concerning dbus/polkit/consolekit.

Also I was thinking to get rid of all the dependency packages on the "KDE4 Pre-installation Configuration"
page and instead list them as dependencies on the individual KDE4 package pages. The required
dependencies will need to be added to the book.

Any comments?

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> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:56:56 +0000
> From: zarniwhoop <at> ntlworld.com
> To: blfs-dev <at> linuxfromscratch.org
> Subject: [blfs-dev] New BLFS Editor
>
> The BLFS editors are pleased to announce that Ragnar Thomsen has
> accepted the invitation to join their number.
>
> Ragnar has recently contributed patches for KDE4 related items.
> Please join me in welcoming Ragnar to the BLFS community.
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