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treah blade | 1 Apr 2010 12:26
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Re: Rox Filer


On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:17:13 +0100
Andrew Benton <b3nton <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Rox Filer is a gtk2 file browser with few dependencies but it is not
> a straightforward CMMI to install it. I think it would be appreciated
> by the people who read the book so I've made the attached patch which
> will add it to the book. Please apply.
> 
> Andy

It would need to be approved to be added to the book perse. I have never used the full rox desktop but I do use rox
filer and I run that directly from its own folder in my home directory. Rox does not need to be installed like
other packages it kinda just runs on its own. I find it very user friendly for dealing with files other then
using the commandline.  I pair it with icewm to make a extreamly lightweight and powerfull deskop. 
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Trent Shea | 3 Apr 2010 05:18
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HAL-0.5.14 and 90-hal.rules

Hi,

I see "/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-hal.rules" gets installed. As far as I can 
tell from the udev man page /usr/lib/udev/rules.d is not a supported 
directory.

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jon q public | 7 Apr 2010 03:25

Why is quartz not mentioned in the GTK section?

Pango needs to have a cairo backend to support GTK
The only backend allowed is based on /Quatrz/
Therefore /Quartz/ is a GTK prerequisite.
I had to search config logs to find this out.
No anount of /googling/ (the most painful debugging method devised) will 
help.

Should I be on IRC?

PS I promise to install gdb.

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DJ Lucas | 7 Apr 2010 07:52
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Re: Why is quartz not mentioned in the GTK section?

On 04/06/2010 08:25 PM, jon q public wrote:
> Pango needs to have a cairo backend to support GTK

I haven't looked yet, but I think you've mis-interpreted this part...

> The only backend allowed is based on /Quatrz/
> Therefore /Quartz/ is a GTK prerequisite.

What exactly would that get you?  There is an OpenQuartz still in its
infancy, but I'm pretty sure that I haven't seen any WMs/DEs that will
build without X11, well besides Aqua (and if you got the source for
that, some people will not be happy about that).  If a Gnome2 and E14
hybrid aren't good enough for your goal, then I would suggest you go out
and purchase the real OS X on supported hardware.

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jon q public | 7 Apr 2010 08:25

Re: is quartz not mentioned in the GTK section?

BLFS should roll back Pango to 1.21.1 it built without complaint
and GTK-2.18.7 (as seen in last SVN BLFS I've downloaded) is happy with
it.

> Pango needs to have a cairo backend to support GTK
> The only backend allowed is based on /Quatrz/
> Therefore /Quartz/ is a GTK prerequisite.
> I had to search config logs to find this out.
> No anount of /googling/ (the most painful debugging method devised) will help.
>
> Should I be on IRC?
>
> PS I promise to install gdb.

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Wayne Blaszczyk | 7 Apr 2010 08:33
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Ticket #3054

DJ,
I only noticed this ticket now after creating tickets 3087 and 3088.
What is the status of this ticket? The reason I ask is that I'm working
on GNOME System Monitor atm.
Wayne.
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William Immendorf | 7 Apr 2010 14:14
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Re: is quartz not mentioned in the GTK section?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:25 AM, jon q public <public <at> pitchblende.org> wrote:
> BLFS should roll back Pango to 1.21.1 it built without complaint
> and GTK-2.18.7 (as seen in last SVN BLFS I've downloaded) is happy with
> it.
You mean we should roll back to a early development version of Pango?
No, nonono. We don't use development versions unless we have to.

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DJ Lucas | 7 Apr 2010 15:04
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Re: Ticket #3054

On 04/07/2010 01:33 AM, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote:
> DJ,
> I only noticed this ticket now after creating tickets 3087 and 3088.
> What is the status of this ticket? The reason I ask is that I'm working
> on GNOME System Monitor atm.
> Wayne.

Wayne, I check the lists late at night, and in the morning, but no time
for book right now (personal reasons).  Go ahead and take the ticket if
you would be so kind, and that goes for everyone else as well.  If I'm
still assigned to something, and you have the time and want to do it,
please just go ahead and do what you can.

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Trent Shea | 7 Apr 2010 16:44
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Re: is quartz not mentioned in the GTK section?

On April 7, 2010 12:25:03 am jon q public wrote:
> BLFS should roll back Pango to 1.21.1 it built without complaint
> and GTK-2.18.7 (as seen in last SVN BLFS I've downloaded) is happy with
> it.
> 
> > Pango needs to have a cairo backend to support GTK
> > The only backend allowed is based on /Quatrz/
> > Therefore /Quartz/ is a GTK prerequisite.
> > I had to search config logs to find this out.
> > No anount of /googling/ (the most painful debugging method devised) will
> > help.

Everything I have built without complaint (I'll attach a snippet from the 
config logs of each, too) I have:
pango-1.26.2
cairo-1.8.10
gtk+2.18.9 (with Depends: atk, cairo, expat, fontconfig, freetype, gcc, glib, 
glibc, jpeg, libpng, libx11, libxau, libxcb, libxcomposite, libxcursor, 
libxdamage, libxdmcp, libxext, libxfixes, libxinerama, libxrandr, libxrender, 
pango, pcre, pixman, tiff, zlib)

Are you unable to build without quartz? Packages are usually only considered 
required when another package won't build without them, or considerable 
functionality is lost. Can you provide the version numbers you are building as 
well, maybe newer development versions have added quartz as a requirement?

## start config snippets
Pango:
configuration:
        backends: Cairo Xft FreeType X
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Wayne Blaszczyk | 8 Apr 2010 00:47
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Re: Why is quartz not mentioned in the GTK section?

On 07/04/10 11:25, jon q public wrote:
> Pango needs to have a cairo backend to support GTK
> The only backend allowed is based on /Quatrz/
> Therefore /Quartz/ is a GTK prerequisite.
> I had to search config logs to find this out.
> No anount of /googling/ (the most painful debugging method devised) will 
> help.
> 
> Should I be on IRC?
> 
> PS I promise to install gdb.
> 
My understanding is that Quartz is only a prerequiste if you're building
on a MacOSX.
Regards,
Wayne

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