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DJ Lucas | 1 Nov 2008 23:58
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FreeGLUT vs. MesaGLUT

FreeGLUT hasn't had a commit since September of 2006 and the Mesa GLUT 
provides what is needed. I haven't even tried to build freeGLUT.  Does 
anybody still use it?  Ouch, the licensing note is still correct:

# NOTICE:  The OpenGL Utility Toolkit (GLUT) distribution contains source
# code published in a book titled "Programming OpenGL for the X Window
# System" (ISBN: 0-201-48359-9) published by Addison-Wesley.  The
# programs and associated files contained in the distribution were
# developed by Mark J. Kilgard and are Copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 by Mark
# J. Kilgard (unless otherwise noted).  The programs are not in the
# public domain, but they are freely distributable without licensing
# fees.  These programs are provided without guarantee or warrantee
# expressed or implied.
#
# GLUT source included with Mesa with permission from Mark Kilgard.

While this message started out as a proposal to question FreeGLUT's 
future, it almost seems irresponsible to even consider keeping MesaGLUT 
in the book, especially without a warning about the license.

Opinions?

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DJ Lucas | 2 Nov 2008 00:45
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Go-OO

http://go-oo.org/

Anyone have appropriate opinions on Sun vs Novell for the BLFS's version 
of OpenOffice? :-) I do like the licensing terms and development process 
better, not to mention the extra features...in fact, I've pulled BLFS 
patches from go-oo in 2.0.{0,1}.  Just thought I'd throw it out there, 
but it will at very least wind up in the wiki when I get to it.

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DJ Lucas | 2 Nov 2008 17:59
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Re: Xorg-7.4

Nathan Coulson wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM, DJ Lucas <dj <at> linuxfromscratch.org> wrote:
>   
>> DJ Lucas wrote:
>>     
>> Okay...these drivers failed to build for me and I haven't had the time
>> to investigate the failures yet, got to keep moving for LFS testing:
>>
>> [root <at> name25 driver]$ grep "^##x" ../driver-7.4.wget | sed 's <at> ## <at>  <at> '
>> xf86-video-glide-1.0.1.tar.bz2
>> xf86-video-impact-0.2.0.tar.bz2
>> xf86-video-intel-2.4.2.tar.bz2
>> xf86-video-vermilion-1.0.1.tar.bz2
>> xf86-video-wsfb-0.2.1.tar.bz2
>> xf86-video-xgixp-1.7.99.3.tar.bz2
>>
>>     
> I think the latest mesa needs libdrm 2.3.1 as well...  [I am using
> xf86-video-intel 2.4.2, libdrm 2.3.1, xorg 7.4 packages, and Mesa
> 7.2].  Compiles ok for my subset anyway.
>   
OK...with libdrm-2.3.1, intel driver builds.  The broken list is 
otherwise the same.  Probably need to drop back a version, but I am 
unsure at the moment.  Will look into it further a little bit later on.  

For anybody interested, the rest is long.  With the wget files I posted 
earlier, here is the first 60 linsts of BLFS in order for a 'complete' X 
setup (have not done the font setup or xterm), all built against current 
LFS-SVN with little to no modification to the current book instructions 
(xorg-server, Mesa, and packages that do not appear in the book
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DJ Lucas | 2 Nov 2008 20:50
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Re: Some issues and possible solutions regarding the use of Glibc 2.8 and GCC 4.3.2 in BLFS

Rick Houkes wrote:
> 2008/10/25 Randy McMurchy <randy <at> linuxfromscratch.org>:
>   
>> Rick Houkes wrote these words on 10/25/08 09:08 CST:
>>     
>>> Whilst using stable BLFS 6.3 and LFS SVN (version since Glibc 2.8 and
>>> GCC 4.3.2 where introduced) I have ran into some problems as some
>>> programs refuse to compile if either or both or these is in use.
>>>       
>> Your findings don't surprise me at all. The current LFS development
>> book uses bleeding-edge package versions while BLFS stable is way
>> old.
>>
>> We are aware of all the breakage, problem is manpower to update all
>> the BLFS packages. GNOME in itself is time-consuming enough. Not to
>> mention *everything* else.
>>
>> I suppose I should update the BLFS home page with information about
>> the disparity between LFS SVN and BLFS Stable. It simply won't work
>> without massive package updates to BLFS.
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Thomas Trepl | 3 Nov 2008 08:03

Packages to update

Hi all,

the days ago i set up a brand new LFS-SVN (based on 20081031) system and added 
some packages from the BLFS book but for each of them I checked whether there 
are new versions. The followin list shows how far I came:

Updates in BLFS
---------------

1	*	pkgconfig	0.23
2	*	glib		2.19.0		dann nochmal pkgconfig mit --with-installed-glib
3		which		2.20
4	*	popt		1.14
5		gpm		1.20.5
6	*	ed		1.1
7		tcpwrapper	7.6
8		portmap		6.0
9	*	nfsutils	1.1.4
10	*	openssl		0.9.8i		mit 0.9.8h-manpage patch von CBLFS
11	*	ntp		4.2.4p5
12	*	openssh		5.1p1
13		inetutils	1.5		Required to do "sed -i "1i\#include <stdlib.h>" 
libicmp/icmp_timestamp.c"
14	*	curl		7.19.0
15		wget		1.11.4
16	*	dhcpcd		3.2.3		(website currently down)
17	*	alsalib		1.0.17
18	*	alsautils	1.0.17		(even ~.18 is out, the kernel has ~.17)
19		lynx		2.8.6rel.5
20		java		1.6.0.10	binary install !
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TheOldFellow | 3 Nov 2008 08:46
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Re: Packages to update

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:03:19 +0100
Thomas Trepl <thomas <at> equinox.homelinux.org> wrote:

<snip>
> My question to you - do you have the same experiences that the version 
> upgrades are working ok?  If so, I'll go for preparing patches on the book to 
> reflect those updates. If not, a short note would be great!
> 

I've tried most of these new versions (I can't check exactly right now)
with a build I did with DJ's version of lfs svn, middle of September,
gcc-4.3.1 glibc-2.7.  I built a working Xorg-7.3+latest drm/mesa at the
time. Ran well, no significant clitches.

R.

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Randy McMurchy | 3 Nov 2008 12:43
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Re: Packages to update

Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 11/03/08 01:03 CST:

> 2	*	glib		2.19.0		dann nochmal pkgconfig mit --with-installed-glib

I'm just about ready to update the book as well. Let's use the Trac
system so that we don't step on one another's toes.

I thought that version of GLib was development. Please make sure. I
think the 2.18.x series is what we want.

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Ken Moffat | 3 Nov 2008 17:18
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Re: Packages to update

On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 08:03:19AM +0100, Thomas Trepl wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> the days ago i set up a brand new LFS-SVN (based on 20081031) system and added 
> some packages from the BLFS book but for each of them I checked whether there 
> are new versions. The followin list shows how far I came:
> 
 I'll add comments on what I've used - I'm still on gcc-4.2 here,
but I doubt that gcc-4.3 will cause much difficulty for packages,
many of the patches floating around as "fixes for gcc-4.3" are
equally needed for c++ use with 4.2!

> Updates in BLFS
> ---------------
> 
> 1	*	pkgconfig	0.23
	ok

> 2	*	glib		2.19.0		dann nochmal pkgconfig mit --with-installed-glib
	as Randy said, that's development

> 3		which		2.20
	ok

> 4	*	popt		1.14
	ok

> 7		tcpwrapper	7.6
	ok
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Lefteris Dimitroulakis | 3 Nov 2008 22:24
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Konqueror iso8859-7,8,11 failures

After finishing my build, I check with Konqueror here:
http://smontagu.damowmow.com/encodingtest.html

Resalts:
A.
Test page for iso-8859-7 encoding
Summary: 185 codepoint(s) passed; 3 codepoint(s) failed.

B.
Test page for iso-8859-8 encoding
Summary: 152 codepoint(s) passed; 3 codepoint(s) failed.

C.
Test page for iso-8859-11 encoding
Summary: 182 codepoint(s) passed; 1 codepoint(s) failed.

Reason is that some tables in 
qt-x11-free-3.3.8b/src/codecs/qtextcodec.cpp
have oudated data. Updating is very easy,
but for the convenience of the fellow blfs-users
I can send a patch if you agree.
Please also note that this bug go up to the latest qt.

rgrds

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Thomas Trepl | 3 Nov 2008 21:49

Re: Packages to update


Am Montag, 3. November 2008 12:43:23 schrieb Randy McMurchy:
> Thomas Trepl wrote these words on 11/03/08 01:03 CST:
> > 2	*	glib		2.19.0		dann nochmal pkgconfig mit --with-installed-glib
>
> I'm just about ready to update the book as well. Let's use the Trac
> system so that we don't step on one another's toes.
Yes, I hack in some tickets. Its the best way - especially when there is a 
need for discussions.

> I thought that version of GLib was development. Please make sure. I
> think the 2.18.x series is what we want.
Yup, there is a ticket for that version allready.

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