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Miguel A. Garrido. | 13 Sep 21:35 2004
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Laptop hot under linux

Hi, I have a problem with my laptop under linux. When it runs in Windows XP,
the fan increase speed in case the cpu warm but with any distro (currently
I'm using debian) the fan operates at the same speed and therefore it isn't
capable to cool the processor and the laptop finishes turning off
(fortunately ;) )
It is not a common laptop trademark, but it has a Wistron motherboard with a
PIV 2.4 proccessor. 
Any idea?

Sorry about my English, I'm spaniard.

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Guilherme Mesquita | 13 Sep 19:17 2004

Re: Laptop hot under linux

Hello Miguel,

Did you enable the ACPI in your kernel? It has a "fan" module, maybe you 
could check it out... Also enable the IC thermal monitors so you can 
just check up if things are getting cooler or not... I think this might 
help.

-- Guilherme

Miguel A. Garrido. wrote:

>Hi, I have a problem with my laptop under linux. When it runs in Windows XP,
>the fan increase speed in case the cpu warm but with any distro (currently
>I'm using debian) the fan operates at the same speed and therefore it isn't
>capable to cool the processor and the laptop finishes turning off
>(fortunately ;) )
>It is not a common laptop trademark, but it has a Wistron motherboard with a
>PIV 2.4 proccessor. 
>Any idea?
>
>Sorry about my English, I'm spaniard.
>
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Miguel A. Garrido. | 14 Sep 00:39 2004
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RE: Laptop hot under linux

Thanks for the idea, but ACPI is already enable and even I can do a  
"acpi -t" and see how temperature is going up but fan do not speed up :(

Miguel A.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: linux-laptop-owner <at> vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-laptop-owner <at> vger.kernel.org] En nombre de Guilherme Mesquita
Enviado el: lunes, 13 de septiembre de 2004 19:17
Para: Miguel A. Garrido.
CC: linux-laptop <at> vger.kernel.org
Asunto: Re: Laptop hot under linux

Hello Miguel,

Did you enable the ACPI in your kernel? It has a "fan" module, maybe you 
could check it out... Also enable the IC thermal monitors so you can 
just check up if things are getting cooler or not... I think this might 
help.

-- Guilherme

Miguel A. Garrido. wrote:

>Hi, I have a problem with my laptop under linux. When it runs in Windows
XP,
>the fan increase speed in case the cpu warm but with any distro (currently
>I'm using debian) the fan operates at the same speed and therefore it isn't
>capable to cool the processor and the laptop finishes turning off
>(fortunately ;) )
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Jim Carter | 14 Sep 02:34 2004

Re: Laptop hot under linux

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Miguel A. Garrido. wrote:

> Hi, I have a problem with my laptop under linux. When it runs in Windows XP,
> the fan increase speed in case the cpu warm but with any distro (currently
> I'm using debian) the fan operates at the same speed and therefore it isn't
> capable to cool the processor and the laptop finishes turning off
> (fortunately ;) )
> It is not a common laptop trademark, but it has a Wistron motherboard with a
> PIV 2.4 proccessor. 

The symptom you describe is very strange.  I have a Dell Inspiron 4100 with 
SuSE Linux v9.1 (kernel 2.6.5), and I've never had a problem with cooling.  
In fact, my previous Inspiron 3800 (kernel 2.2.17) also could run its fan 
at high speed.  

The Inspiron has two fan speeds.  Even though in Los Angeles we're in the 
middle of a heat wave (max temperature 39 C) the machine maintains a max 
CPU temperature of 49 C by periodically running the fan at low speed.
If I took it outside in the sun, I imagine it would need the high speed,
but so far the only time it's put the fan on high speed was when I 
deliberately blocked the air duct to see if high speed worked. 

The Inspiron does not like ACPI.  The fan still works, but the temperature 
and fan readouts are useless.  So I still use APM.  If you start apmd and
prevent acpid from starting, you might find that the machine behaves 
better.  Then again, there might be no improvement.  If your distro does 
something like loading the ACPI modules at boot time and you can't make it 
stop doing it, try adding acpi=off to your boot parameters (kernel command 
line), but normally that isn't necessary; the first power management scheme 
to be started prevents the other one from initializing.  
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Daniel Pittman | 14 Sep 02:45 2004
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Re: Laptop hot under linux

On 14 Sep 2004, Miguel A. wrote:

It is generally much nicer to write replies *under* the existing text,
rather than at the top, since that is the natural way people read
English text. :)

[... overheating since the fan does not activate under Linux ...]

> Thanks for the idea, but ACPI is already enable and even I can do a  
> "acpi -t" and see how temperature is going up but fan do not speed up
> :(

One of the problems with ACPI is that while it can improve power
management performance it can also cause issues if it depends on the OS
doing work than Linux does not.

The other thing to try is turning *off* ACPI support in Linux, and
determine if it works correctly then.

Regards,
        Daniel
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