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Re: I hear you

On 03/29/09 23:42, quozl <at> laptop.org wrote:
> I've tested twinkle and it worked quite well for point to point calls.
> Both it and ihu could probably be modified to accept appropriate
> parameters to operate within the Sugar context if needed.
> 
> I'm also aware of someone working again on the point-multipoint audio
> idea that I tried out a couple of years ago ... a press-to-talk (PTT)
> multicast portable radio emulation.

Some time ago I made linphone work on my XO.  It was fully functional
and reliable, but the GUI is really ugly also by the standards of a
traditional desktop.

The reason why linphone is interesting at all is that the engine is well
isolated from the UI so it's easy to replace it with a Sugar UI, perhaps
written in Python, without breaking everything in the core.  They have
already implemented GTK, console and test UIs.

Oh, and it also does video with H263, MPEG4, theora and H264 codecs!

  http://www.linphone.org/index.php/eng/features

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Gary C Martin | 1 Apr 04:36

Re: [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote:

> On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote:
>
>> I really like this idea, "baseline" so first-time visitors won't get
>> lost between site sections
>>
>> Christian, would it be possible for you to put together that 1 page
>> linking to the different sections + Google?
>
> FWIW: Assuming it's not being worked on yet, I just picked this ticket
> up. Will post a screen grab to the list tomorrow for quick review/
> feedback cycle.

Here's a quick first pass at a simple static page, please do fire off  
some feedback - FWIW, I'm not too keen on how the Google treatment  
clashes with SL logo, but it is a useful feature to have on a home page:

	http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v1.png

Regards,
--Gary

> --Gary
>
>> An outstanding opportunity to have a nice big Sugar Labs logo when
>> Browse is opened.
>>
>> Let us know thanks
>>

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Bryan Berry | 1 Apr 04:36

Re: ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Lucian Branescu wrote:
> Yes, I'm more interested in the slightly lower level part. As in, just
> making web apps work as native Sugar activities. I wouldn't invent any
> framework-ish thing myself as all of the framework stuff I'd use is
> already written or at least has a clear, usually proven API (HTML, JS,
> Gears, GreaseMonkey, Sugar itself).

I see Karma as being much higher-level than an API or set of tools. I
hope it will eventually become a ruby-on-rails like set of conventions
for creating a learning activity w/ stubs for the lesson plan, help
menus, and quiz section. Those are some of the long term goals for
Karma. 

In the short-term, we need to create some proof-of-concept animations w/
audio and client-side i18n. It would be great to have at the end of the
summer some re-usable javascript libraries for lesson plan reader,
navigation, help, etc.

> And I really care about adhering to web standards and practices,
> because it yields incredible code reuse and opportunities for
> integration. That's why I suggested that you could build Karma so that
> it works on (most) modern browsers, including Browse. Chrome
> experiments http://www.chromeexperiments.com/ proves that impressive
> animations and even 3D is possible with Webkit, Webkit+v8 and Firefox
> 3.1.

Absolutely, web standards make everyone's life easier

> AFAIK, there isn't any nice framework for building educational,
> interactive web apps. HTML5 (with Gears) has almost all of the

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David Farning | 1 Apr 04:41

Re: I hear you

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie <at> codewiz.org> wrote:
> On 03/29/09 23:42, quozl <at> laptop.org wrote:
>> I've tested twinkle and it worked quite well for point to point calls.
>> Both it and ihu could probably be modified to accept appropriate
>> parameters to operate within the Sugar context if needed.
>>
>> I'm also aware of someone working again on the point-multipoint audio
>> idea that I tried out a couple of years ago ... a press-to-talk (PTT)
>> multicast portable radio emulation.
>
> Some time ago I made linphone work on my XO.  It was fully functional
> and reliable, but the GUI is really ugly also by the standards of a
> traditional desktop.

FWIW, Asterisk is interesting in working with Sugar Labs:)  If someone
is able to champion this, it is likely that we could  turn this into a
partnership with digum.

david

> The reason why linphone is interesting at all is that the engine is well
> isolated from the UI so it's easy to replace it with a Sugar UI, perhaps
> written in Python, without breaking everything in the core.  They have
> already implemented GTK, console and test UIs.
>
> Oh, and it also does video with H263, MPEG4, theora and H264 codecs!
>
>  http://www.linphone.org/index.php/eng/features
>
>

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David Farning | 1 Apr 04:45

Re: [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Gary C Martin <gary <at> garycmartin.com> wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
>> On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> I really like this idea, "baseline" so first-time visitors won't get
>>> lost between site sections
>>>
>>> Christian, would it be possible for you to put together that 1 page
>>> linking to the different sections + Google?
>>
>> FWIW: Assuming it's not being worked on yet, I just picked this ticket
>> up. Will post a screen grab to the list tomorrow for quick review/
>> feedback cycle.
>
> Here's a quick first pass at a simple static page, please do fire off
> some feedback - FWIW, I'm not too keen on how the Google treatment
> clashes with SL logo, but it is a useful feature to have on a home page:
>
>        http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v1.png

I guess we will just have to convince google make a sugarized google logo.

david

> Regards,
> --Gary
> - Show quoted text -
>> --Gary
>>

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Edward Cherlin | 1 Apr 04:53

Re: Google summer of Code proposal: Speech Synthesis

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
<bmschwar <at> fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
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> chirag jain wrote:
>> The doubt is how to provide the button in sugar core? If you have any
>> ideas or suggestions please reply.
>
> It sounds like a good plan to me.  On my XO, build candidate-801 (8.2.1),
> I can easily do:
>
> yum install xclip
> [select some text]
> xclip -o | espeak --stdin
>
> All you have to do is wrap this up in a frame device, like the volume
> control or battery meter, and you're done!

Don't forget to call our text coloring engine to mark the word being
spoken. That's designed for the pre-literate, on the model of
Same-Language Subtitling in India.

> Bonus: reimplement using pygst, the gstreamer speak plugin, and pyx11 or
> libX11, so that xclip isn't needed and you don't need to spawn a new
> process every time.
>
> - --Ben
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Carol Farlow Lerche | 1 Apr 05:16

Re: [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

Check these out :-)

http://www.google-logos.com/

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:45 PM, David Farning <dfarning <at> sugarlabs.org> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Gary C Martin <gary <at> garycmartin.com> wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
>> On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> I really like this idea, "baseline" so first-time visitors won't get
>>> lost between site sections
>>>
>>> Christian, would it be possible for you to put together that 1 page
>>> linking to the different sections + Google?
>>
>> FWIW: Assuming it's not being worked on yet, I just picked this ticket
>> up. Will post a screen grab to the list tomorrow for quick review/
>> feedback cycle.
>
> Here's a quick first pass at a simple static page, please do fire off
> some feedback - FWIW, I'm not too keen on how the Google treatment
> clashes with SL logo, but it is a useful feature to have on a home page:
>
> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v1.png

I guess we will just have to convince google make a sugarized google logo.

david

> Regards,
> --Gary
> - Show quoted text -

>> --Gary
>>
>>> An outstanding opportunity to have a nice big Sugar Labs logo when
>>> Browse is opened.
>>>
>>> Let us know thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:29 PM, SugarLabs Bugs
>>> <bugtracker-noreply <at> sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>> #645: make sugarlabs.org the default page
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>> +---------------------------------
>>>> Reporter: erikos | Owner: erikos
>>>> Type: defect | Status: new
>>>> Priority: Unspecified by Maintainer | Milestone: 0.84
>>>> Component: Browse | Version:
>>>> Unspecified
>>>> Severity: Blocker | Resolution:
>>>> Keywords: | Distribution:
>>>> Unspecified
>>>> Status_field: Assigned |
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>> +---------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Comment(by CarolineM):
>>>>
>>>> Sounds smart to me
>>>>
>>>> --
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Simon Schampijer | 1 Apr 06:52

Re: [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> I really like this idea, "baseline" so first-time visitors won't get
>>> lost between site sections
>>>
>>> Christian, would it be possible for you to put together that 1 page
>>> linking to the different sections + Google?
>> FWIW: Assuming it's not being worked on yet, I just picked this ticket
>> up. Will post a screen grab to the list tomorrow for quick review/
>> feedback cycle.
> 
> Here's a quick first pass at a simple static page, please do fire off  
> some feedback - FWIW, I'm not too keen on how the Google treatment  
> clashes with SL logo, but it is a useful feature to have on a home page:
> 
> 	http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v1.png
> 
> Regards,
> --Gary
> 
>> --Gary

Do we need the google logo for trademark reasons? Otherwise I would just 
leave it out. It says 'Google' on the button already.

Would be nice to have a link to our bug tracker as well - maybe just 
named 'Bugs'.

Of course - ideally this page would be translated :/ We can do that for 
0.86 then I guess :)

Thanks,
    Simon

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Lucian Branescu | 1 Apr 07:41

Re: [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

Perhaps google would be interested in hosting a homepage like they do
for firefox? It would at least be faster to load.

2009/4/1 Simon Schampijer <simon <at> schampijer.de>:
> Gary C Martin wrote:
>> On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really like this idea, "baseline" so first-time visitors won't get
>>>> lost between site sections
>>>>
>>>> Christian, would it be possible for you to put together that 1 page
>>>> linking to the different sections + Google?
>>> FWIW: Assuming it's not being worked on yet, I just picked this ticket
>>> up. Will post a screen grab to the list tomorrow for quick review/
>>> feedback cycle.
>>
>> Here's a quick first pass at a simple static page, please do fire off
>> some feedback - FWIW, I'm not too keen on how the Google treatment
>> clashes with SL logo, but it is a useful feature to have on a home page:
>>
>>       http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v1.png
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
>>> --Gary
>
> Do we need the google logo for trademark reasons? Otherwise I would just
> leave it out. It says 'Google' on the button already.
>
> Would be nice to have a link to our bug tracker as well - maybe just
> named 'Bugs'.
>
> Of course - ideally this page would be translated :/ We can do that for
> 0.86 then I guess :)
>
> Thanks,
>    Simon
> _______________________________________________
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> Sugar-devel <at> lists.sugarlabs.org
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Simon Schampijer | 1 Apr 08:01

[RELEASE] Browse-106

== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-106.tar.bz2

== Fixed tickets ==

* Fix Autocompletion and File upload #670
* Make sugarlabs.org the default homepage

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