Yamandu Ploskonka | 19 Aug 22:28

detalles, Trasnoche de Sugar al Aymará

Estamos en las preparaciones finales para el evento de traducción del interfas Sugar al aymará.
"Sugar" es el sistema operativo que viene de fábrica en las computadoras XO-1 del proyecto "Un Laptop Por Niño"[3] (OLPC en inglés).  En Bolivia Soboce tendría ya un centenar como parte de sus programas sociales en Viacha[4], y un despliegue independiente, aún en preparación, traería 1.000 más en diciembre.

Trasnoche de Sugar al Aymará
Setiembre 5 y 6 (viernes y sábado)
La Paz, lugar a determinar (cerca de la UMSA probablemente)
contacto:  yamaplos <at> gmail.com
página de referencia con detalles actualizados:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Aymara_Fest

El objetivo es traducir tanto como sea posible del sistema Sugar, para hacer posible que un niño de habla aymará utilizando una computadora XO tenga acceso al sistema, en su propio idioma, como el que tendría un usuario que usa el castellano. [1 ver abajo]

Este evento tendrá 24 horas de duración, comenzando el Viernes a las 6 de la tarde, terminando con conferencia de prensa el Sabado a las 6.  El Domingo de tarde iríamos al Altiplano pa probar si sirve.
Esto no significa que los participantes deben estar allí las 24 horas - la mayoría probablemente se irá a casita tarde el Viernes y volverá el Sábado, o iran y vendrán tal como puedan para acomodar estudio y laburo - pero los hackers de esos de verdad, pues esos pueden darse el gusto de como en los días del comienzo de Yahoo! y darle hasta la madrugada, y compartir api con llaucha.  Si conseguimos conexión a internet tendremos la posibilidad de tener participantes desde sus casas u otros lugares y países.

¿necesitas saber aymará? bueno, en general sería bueno que todos sepamos aymará, pero ello jamás debe ser excluyente.  Este es el orden de preferencia de conocimientos (1) aymará clásico, oral y escrito (2) aymará hablado (3) uso de computadora, especialmente Linux (4) gran interés por la educación boliviana. 
Idealmente combinarlos todos.  Personalmente no tengo 1, ni 2, y 3 apenas pero soy loco por 4, por eso estoy organizando esto.

¿hay paga?  lo siento, no.  Hacemos esto por amor a la patria, ni más ni menos.  Lo que produzcamos se distribuirá gratuitamente.  Los únicos que se benefician son los niños bolivianos el día que estas computadoras se repartan en Bolivia, o que otros usen estos materiales para mejorar la educación.

Qué se necesita:
  • Anotarse.  por favor, si estás interesado por saber más de esto, aunque no vayas a participar, mándame un email, así te tendremos en cuenta y será más fácil de coordinar esfuerzos.
  • Invitar gente.  por favor copiar esto a toda persona posible
  • contacto con la prensa.  Habrá conferencia de prensa para cerrar las festividades, pero sería bueno coordinar con anterioridad.  Puede copiar esto a periodistas, y quien desee una entrevista o más datos contáctese conmigo por email.
    Si hay estudiantes de Comunicación Social que se animan a hacer un vídeo del evento tendrán su obra distribuida internacionalmente.
  • un local.  si bien están avanzadas tratativas, no está totalmente resuelto
  • computadoras.  Tal vez esto está resuelto también, pero no está de más pedir.
  • prepararse [2]
  • donaciones son bienvenidas, en particular aquello que se pueda rifar entre los voluntarios, o llevar para repartir entre niños aymaristas el Domingo.
notas
[1] en realidad me daría por muy contento de llegar a 90% de lo que hay para castellano, dado que para ese idioma se ha invertido millones de dólares durante dos años.  Comparar
lo que hay en castellano, lo que hay en aymará:
https://dev.laptop.org/translate/es
https://dev.laptop.org/translate/ay

[2] aquí están los términos más usados, Aymaristas, pueden comenzar a meterle, sincronizaremos juntos luego,
http://bolinux.org/documents/terminology.ay.ods
http://bolinux.org/documents/terminology.ay.xls
Noten que para castellano no está el 100% ni de lejos...

Para quienes desean familiarizarse con el interfas pootle, he aquí una presentación
http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/pootleforxo2.pdf

[3] http://www.laptop.org/es/
[4] SOBOCE entrega computadoras portátiles a niños

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Release Team | 19 Aug 14:13

Reviews report

= New requests =

Search entry in Home focuses list view when cleared
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7874

Pulsing icon on activity launch significantly slows activity start-up
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8000

Double clicking an activity in the home ring causes 2 instances to launch
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7876

Sugar should include a string that explains that it is free software and under the GPL
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6929

= Approved requests =

Activity does not respond to ctrl-q keyboard shortcut unless the 'Activity' tab is visible
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7533
David Farning | 19 Aug 04:42

Release cycle - Goals

Over the last weeks I have been looking at how we can improve our
release cycle. Today will be about defining and implementing goals.

Setting goals for any software project is hard, much less an open source
project.

Marco started the discussion last week at
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-August/007838.html .  He
has also started a wiki page at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84 .

There seem to be as many methods for setting goals as there are
projects.  There is not a best practice.

Some of the variables are:
1.  Size of the project.  Larger project such as eclipse have developed
very formal methods.  Smaller project tend to be more informal.

2. Collaboration vs. Competition.  Projects differ in the attitudes with
which stakeholders regard each other.

3. Commercial vs. Commons.  Project differ with regards to their
interest in commercializing their product. 

4.  Dictator vs. Membership.  Some project such as the kernel do well
with the BD others such as Debian are entirely membership driven.

5. Planned vs. Evolutionary.

1.  Sugar Labs in in the category of small to medium sized.  We have
less than 10 committers responsible for 90% on the commits and less then
50 doing the majority of the majority of the commits.  This size implies
a less formal method of setting goals.  It is still quite easy for all
developers to coordinate on a single ML and use wiki pages to specify
new features.

2.  All of the current stake holds all share the same basic vision for
Sugar.  We should be able to decide on goals and priorities of goals
based on rough consensus.  If an individual stakeholder has an interest
in add a feature, it is up to them to implement and prove the value of a
given feature. 

3.  We are a hybrid of commercial and commons.  Our base product, the
Sugar desktop, is focused on the common good.  Yet, it will be to our
advantage to encourage organizations to advance Sugar as a platform on
which to base their own businesses.

4.  Base on some of the recent hits Sugar has taken in the media,
public trust for sugar is quite low.  Returning to a dictator,
regardless of his competence or benevolence is questionable.

5.  For a totally cop-out answer I will fall back on planned evolution.

Proposal:

1. Continue the discussion that Marco started on sugar <at> laptop.org .
2. Submit suggestions for future development via
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84 .
3. Appoint Marco and Greg Smith to assign priorities to the list of
suggestions.
4.  Individuals volunteer to work on features.

thanks
dfarning
Samuel Klein | 19 Aug 01:42

two mailing list moderators wanted

Dear sugar & library list readers,

We are looking for a list moderator for each of these lists.  Moderators primarily review posts from people who haven't yet joined the list, to filter out spam; and, socially, help to keep any latent flamewars in check.  If you are interested, please reply offlist.

Cheers,
SJ

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buildbot | 9 Aug 20:03

buildbot failure in Sugar on fedora9-x86_64-quick

The Buildbot has detected a new failure of fedora9-x86_64-quick on Sugar.
Full details are available at:
 http://buildbot.sugarlabs.org/builders/fedora9-x86_64-quick/builds/71

Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.sugarlabs.org/

Buildslave for this Build: fedora9-x86_64

Build Reason: The Nightly scheduler named 'every2hours' triggered this build
Build Source Stamp: HEAD
Blamelist: 

BUILD FAILED: failed compile

sincerely,
 -The Buildbot
Sayamindu Dasgupta | 18 Aug 23:47

The importance of having predictable release schedules for stable branches

Hi all,
Now that Sugar 0.82 is out, we might want to have a published release
schedule for the 0.82 branch (as we have for the devel branch). This
means that we can point at a fixed date to say when a bug fix slated
to be integrated in, for example, 0.82.1 is going to be available to
the general public. It also makes life easier for the translators, as
we have quite a few teams who are giving more priority to the 0.82
branch right now.
GNOME follows a similar system: eg. http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree

Cheers,
Sayamindu

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Sayamindu Dasgupta
[http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
Jason Kridner | 18 Aug 22:56

Sugar on Beagle Board training at ESC Boston

Call for presentation from Sugar developers,

I think it would be great if the Sugar community would put forth a
training at the Embedded Systems Conference in Boston in October[1].
They will be holding several classes[2] on the Beagle Board and I
believe the board is well-suited for higher-level educational
environments (low-cost, low-power, small, DSP capabilities, 3D
graphics, etc.).  It is certainly no OLPC replacement, but I'd like to
get the people who are playing with that board thinking a bit
differently about how we train programmers to think about computers--
and I believe Sugar is a good tool for that.

The Beagle Board is an ARM-based platform that is intentionally
incomplete[3] (no case, no built-in LCD, no built-in Ethernet, etc.).
It *is* intended to promote TI's OMAP3530 device which comes from an
architecture originally intended for mobile phones and I'd understand
if the tie-in with a particular company's promotional goals puts some
people off, so I want to be up-front about that.  Still, there are a
lot of developers who are interested in the platform and, being a fan
of the OLPC software architecture, I don't want them to miss out on
Sugar.

Let me know if you are interested.  I'd be happy to help with the
port.  Python, GTK+, and GECKO are already running.

Regards,
Jason Kridner

[1] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8405005860.html
[2] http://www.cmp-egevents.com/web/escb/beagleboard
[3] http://beagleboard.org

P.S. Sorry to Beagle subscribers for double-post.  Original e-mail was
sent from wrong address and was bounced by the Sugar mailing list.
Release Team | 18 Aug 14:11

Reviews report

= New requests =

Control Panel / Data & Time: Selecting timezone by typing locks up UI
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7877

Activity does not respond to ctrl-q keyboard shortcut unless the 'Activity' tab is visible
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7533

= Approved requests =

CP fails to validate all settings correctly
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7971

Some CP modules set needs_restart to False when they shouldn't
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7970
Mikus Grinbergs | 18 Aug 05:18

abiword difficult for me to understand

Went to the location given by the wiki Activities page to download 
Write-57.xo.  [I've applied the bypass to rename 'keybindings.xml' 
in that activity's directory.]  Launched Write, entered <ctrl-N>.

That gave me "real" Abiword -- but the top-of-screen menu items 
(plus all the drop-down palette entries) were in Portuguese.  I 
don't know Portuguese, so I've had to *guess* what all those items were.

Is there an __English language__ Write-57.xo available ?

mikus
Release Team | 16 Aug 14:11

Reviews report

= New requests =

CP fails to validate all settings correctly
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7971

Some CP modules set needs_restart to False when they shouldn't
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7970

Control Panel accept/cancel buttons are confusing
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7643

Pressing home view button when a splash screen is shown does not work
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7658

Tabbing of from the splash screen does not work.
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7657

= Approved requests =

Mark newly downloaded activities as favorites by default
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7220

Non-modal alerts in CP remain when they shouldn't
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7823

[RELEASE] Develop 35

These are edits on the XO to work with Rainbow. New activity now works, and open activity is improved. There are some other minor bugs fixed (no duplicate log tab). However, the log tab still does not work with Rainbow enabled; this is a basic feature of rainbow, and will not work until there is a P_VIEW_LOGS bitfrost privilege implemented.
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