Gonzalo Odiard | 1 Jul 2011 06:00
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Re: Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

+100

I like the idea of include the UDHR and the idea of a e-Rosetta.
The size is not a problem, I have tried with spanish:
The pdf size is 186K, the html is 38K, but we can clean it and have a html version of 14K (ziped is 5K)
We can start with a content bundle (.xol)

We can do a better job with the content bundles we include.
Almost all are from Wikibooks Junior http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikijunior
but we continue including the same books from may be 2007.

Gonzalo


On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Dear OLPC developers,

I would like to propose including the United Nation's Universal
Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) in the content bundles provided in
the 11.2.0 libraries.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml

It is translated into over 400 languages (found here)

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/SearchByLang.aspx

Many deployments are apparently interested in English language
instruction and I believe that distributing English and local language
copies of the UDHR together not only provides an opportunity for a
"Rosetta Stone" type pairing of texts, but it might also serve as a
launching point for discussions in civics or social studies classes.

I have sent an e-mail to the Secretary of the Publication Board,
United Nations to specifically ask about any restrictions they might
impose on electronic redistribution of the UDHR text and translations
downloaded from their site.  However, given the following quote from
the UHDR website, the intended use seems entirely consistent with the
intent of the UN in publishing the UHDR.

"On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations
adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the
full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this
historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to
publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be
disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and
other educational institutions, without distinction based on the
political status of countries or territories."

Article 26 is of particular relevance to OLPC's efforts.

Assuming there is consensus on pedagogical value and a clear answer on
the copyright status of the UDHR, the remaining question is how to go
about packaging this content for OLPC distributions.  The material
downloads primarily as PDF files.  I haven't checked them all, but
some are text selectable "composited" PDFs, some may be scanned image
PDFs, and a few are possibly available as HTML.

I would like to do as little rework as possible on packaging these (in
part to get them ready in time for the 11.2.0 release), so I am
inclined to stick with the 8 page PDF as downloaded. One possibility
would be to include all of the languages, but this seems wasteful of
precious space.

I am not aware of any storage structure currently available for
content management by language in the way that Pootle handles strings
and the individual languages in the /po directory in git.  I'm unsure
of how this could be managed with the build process to pick up the
appropriate localized version of the UDHR.

Let's be clear that I am not really a developer, so I would be happy
to see someone take this idea and run with it. I am more than willing
to collaborate with anyone on bringing this to fruition, but I
probably can't pull it off all by myself without some assistance (at
least advice and feedback on appropriate technical issues).

cjl
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Chris Leonard | 1 Jul 2011 06:30
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Re: Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

I've been downloading to get materials locally (size estimates, etc.).
 One thought that occurs to me is to leverage the "Region" field they
display on the website to create a handful of bundles (say 5-7
variants).  See attached spreadsheet.  This overcomes individual
language tracking and puts a grouping of indigenous languages together
by region (e.g. numerous African and South American indigenous
languages shared across national boundaries).  A small handful of
bundles would be easier to manage manually in the build process.  All
bundles could be sent to school server where available.  The only
overhead it should add would be the concept of creating  an index page
with links to each individual language, simple enough HTML to build as
long as local storage directory is predictable.

cjl

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo <at> laptop.org> wrote:
> +100
>
> I like the idea of include the UDHR and the idea of a e-Rosetta.
> The size is not a problem, I have tried with spanish:
> The pdf size is 186K, the html is 38K, but we can clean it and have a html
> version of 14K (ziped is 5K)
> We can start with a content bundle (.xol)
>
> We can do a better job with the content bundles we include.
> Almost all are from Wikibooks Junior http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikijunior
> but we continue including the same books from may be 2007.
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear OLPC developers,
>>
>> I would like to propose including the United Nation's Universal
>> Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) in the content bundles provided in
>> the 11.2.0 libraries.
>>
>> http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
>>
>> It is translated into over 400 languages (found here)
>>
>> http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/SearchByLang.aspx
>>
>> Many deployments are apparently interested in English language
>> instruction and I believe that distributing English and local language
>> copies of the UDHR together not only provides an opportunity for a
>> "Rosetta Stone" type pairing of texts, but it might also serve as a
>> launching point for discussions in civics or social studies classes.
>>
>> I have sent an e-mail to the Secretary of the Publication Board,
>> United Nations to specifically ask about any restrictions they might
>> impose on electronic redistribution of the UDHR text and translations
>> downloaded from their site.  However, given the following quote from
>> the UHDR website, the intended use seems entirely consistent with the
>> intent of the UN in publishing the UHDR.
>>
>> "On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations
>> adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the
>> full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this
>> historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to
>> publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be
>> disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and
>> other educational institutions, without distinction based on the
>> political status of countries or territories."
>>
>> Article 26 is of particular relevance to OLPC's efforts.
>>
>> Assuming there is consensus on pedagogical value and a clear answer on
>> the copyright status of the UDHR, the remaining question is how to go
>> about packaging this content for OLPC distributions.  The material
>> downloads primarily as PDF files.  I haven't checked them all, but
>> some are text selectable "composited" PDFs, some may be scanned image
>> PDFs, and a few are possibly available as HTML.
>>
>> I would like to do as little rework as possible on packaging these (in
>> part to get them ready in time for the 11.2.0 release), so I am
>> inclined to stick with the 8 page PDF as downloaded. One possibility
>> would be to include all of the languages, but this seems wasteful of
>> precious space.
>>
>> I am not aware of any storage structure currently available for
>> content management by language in the way that Pootle handles strings
>> and the individual languages in the /po directory in git.  I'm unsure
>> of how this could be managed with the build process to pick up the
>> appropriate localized version of the UDHR.
>>
>> Let's be clear that I am not really a developer, so I would be happy
>> to see someone take this idea and run with it. I am more than willing
>> to collaborate with anyone on bringing this to fruition, but I
>> probably can't pull it off all by myself without some assistance (at
>> least advice and feedback on appropriate technical issues).
>>
>> cjl
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Devel <at> lists.laptop.org
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
>
>
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mokurai | 1 Jul 2011 07:06

Re: Air Jaldi wifi and summits

On Mon, June 27, 2011 6:11 am, Samuel Klein wrote:
> Air Jaldi seems to maintain one of the larger rural wifi neworks, in
> the Indian mountains.
>
> Has anyone heard of people who have attended one of their summits?

Yes, OneVillage Foundation is strongly interested and some of their
people, including Joy Tang, the founder, have attended a summit. I also
know Tim Pozar of BAWUG (Bay Area Wireless User Group). Clif Cox of SFNET
designed a wireless system implemented across Bhutan to provide e-mail
service to valleys with no roads coming in. I could also put you in touch
with the NGO that provided wireless service to Fantsuam Foundation in
Nigeria, including its IT school. They replaced a satellite connection
that reportedly cost more than $1700 a month.

The OLPC program requires that somebody solve the general problem of
wireless broadband to the village for every inhabited terrain and climate,
and likewise renewable electric power. The phone companies have gotten the
idea of providing cell service to villages, but not Internet, except in
OLPC partner countries such as Uruguay and Rwanda.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirJaldi
> http://drupal.airjaldi.com/node/86
>
> SJ
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Daniel Drake | 1 Jul 2011 11:46
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Week of 01/07

Hi,

Not sure if I can make the meeting today - moving into a new house,
depends if internet is already up and running.

    Fixed Sugar’s HTTP file transfer collaboration mechanism which
stopped working with the move to Python 2.7 (#10906)

    Continued painful debugging of the libertas driver hang (#10969)

    Fixed a bug where the boot partition was not mounted on boot after
activation (#11018)

    11.2.0 release work and testing

    11 of the XO-1 and XO-1.5 power management kernel patches that I
was previously working on were accepted by Andrew Morton, one step
closer to them being applied upstream

    Took a couple of steps further on the SD/MMC runtime power
management front in the upstream kernel
Seth Woodworth | 1 Jul 2011 13:16
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Re: Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

There is also a series of recordings in about 35 languages, of the declaration by Librivox:


---Seth

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I've been downloading to get materials locally (size estimates, etc.).
 One thought that occurs to me is to leverage the "Region" field they
display on the website to create a handful of bundles (say 5-7
variants).  See attached spreadsheet.  This overcomes individual
language tracking and puts a grouping of indigenous languages together
by region (e.g. numerous African and South American indigenous
languages shared across national boundaries).  A small handful of
bundles would be easier to manage manually in the build process.  All
bundles could be sent to school server where available.  The only
overhead it should add would be the concept of creating  an index page
with links to each individual language, simple enough HTML to build as
long as local storage directory is predictable.

cjl

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo <at> laptop.org> wrote:
> +100
>
> I like the idea of include the UDHR and the idea of a e-Rosetta.
> The size is not a problem, I have tried with spanish:
> The pdf size is 186K, the html is 38K, but we can clean it and have a html
> version of 14K (ziped is 5K)
> We can start with a content bundle (.xol)
>
> We can do a better job with the content bundles we include.
> Almost all are from Wikibooks Junior http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikijunior
> but we continue including the same books from may be 2007.
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear OLPC developers,
>>
>> I would like to propose including the United Nation's Universal
>> Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) in the content bundles provided in
>> the 11.2.0 libraries.
>>
>> http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
>>
>> It is translated into over 400 languages (found here)
>>
>> http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/SearchByLang.aspx
>>
>> Many deployments are apparently interested in English language
>> instruction and I believe that distributing English and local language
>> copies of the UDHR together not only provides an opportunity for a
>> "Rosetta Stone" type pairing of texts, but it might also serve as a
>> launching point for discussions in civics or social studies classes.
>>
>> I have sent an e-mail to the Secretary of the Publication Board,
>> United Nations to specifically ask about any restrictions they might
>> impose on electronic redistribution of the UDHR text and translations
>> downloaded from their site.  However, given the following quote from
>> the UHDR website, the intended use seems entirely consistent with the
>> intent of the UN in publishing the UHDR.
>>
>> "On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations
>> adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the
>> full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this
>> historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to
>> publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be
>> disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and
>> other educational institutions, without distinction based on the
>> political status of countries or territories."
>>
>> Article 26 is of particular relevance to OLPC's efforts.
>>
>> Assuming there is consensus on pedagogical value and a clear answer on
>> the copyright status of the UDHR, the remaining question is how to go
>> about packaging this content for OLPC distributions.  The material
>> downloads primarily as PDF files.  I haven't checked them all, but
>> some are text selectable "composited" PDFs, some may be scanned image
>> PDFs, and a few are possibly available as HTML.
>>
>> I would like to do as little rework as possible on packaging these (in
>> part to get them ready in time for the 11.2.0 release), so I am
>> inclined to stick with the 8 page PDF as downloaded. One possibility
>> would be to include all of the languages, but this seems wasteful of
>> precious space.
>>
>> I am not aware of any storage structure currently available for
>> content management by language in the way that Pootle handles strings
>> and the individual languages in the /po directory in git.  I'm unsure
>> of how this could be managed with the build process to pick up the
>> appropriate localized version of the UDHR.
>>
>> Let's be clear that I am not really a developer, so I would be happy
>> to see someone take this idea and run with it. I am more than willing
>> to collaborate with anyone on bringing this to fruition, but I
>> probably can't pull it off all by myself without some assistance (at
>> least advice and feedback on appropriate technical issues).
>>
>> cjl
>> _______________________________________________
>> Devel mailing list
>> Devel <at> lists.laptop.org
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
>
>

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Thomas C Gilliard | 1 Jul 2011 17:06
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Re: [Testing] 11.2.0 release candidate 2 (build 871) released


Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We're pleased to announce our second release candidate of our new
> 11.2.0 software release.
>
> Information and installation instructions can be found here:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0
>
> Quick links for those who know which files need to be grabbed and save
> to USB disks:
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/871/
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/871/
>
> This is a signed release candidate that can be installed on all XOs,
> even those with security enabled.
>
> We're looking for testing and feedback on all aspects of the system.
> Thanks for any help you can offer, and for all the feedback that has
> been received already.
>
>   
==testing os871 on unlocked G1G1 XO-1==
07/01/2011 reflashed with USB
===About my Computer===

 Build 871
 sugar 0.92.2
 firmware q2e45
 wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23
*note very slow response
*'''Activities only start on second try''' (get "failed to start" on 
first try)
: (This may be related to  dbus timeout error seen in log in Soasv4 and v5)
: it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.

===Testing===
*Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
*>Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities 
-ASLO?)
:connects fine(on second try) to #sugar and #sugar-es(Default)
*>Connected to Jabber.sugarlabs.org
:only see shared activities NO Avitars
::This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets 
overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 
on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845
 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
:::This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
===Activities===
 no updates found
:Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2

: Note unable to test activities due to the long delay on exit and 
having to start activity 2 times
selinux=0 and setenforce=0 tried but had no effect on speed
;key: *=not a favorite
 speak 25
 tamtamjam 56
 tamtamedit 55
 measure 32
 image viewer 17*
 write 74
 paint 34
 moon 12
 help 12
 clock 6
 chat 70
 tamtamsynthlab 55*
 scratch 19
 memorize 16
 ruler 8
 jukebox 21*
 distance 22
 record 92
 implode 10
 terminal 31
 abacus 19
 pippy 40
 maze 9
 tamtammini 58
 calculate 37
 etoys 113
 helloworld 2
 log 24
 fototoon 7
 read 89
 turtle art 107
 browse 122.2
'''irc-10.xo''' (downloaded)

Tom Gilliard
satellit

> Our scheduled release date is July 18th.
>
>
> Since release candidate 1 (build 870) we have fixed the following issues:
>
> Various collaboration-related bugs were fixed. Collaboration in Read
> and ImageViewer is now working again. In the neighborhood view, users
> correctly cluster around shared activities again, and connecting to
> gabble no longer results in duplication of your own buddy icon.
>
> Journal fixes include less needless rescanning and the ability to
> modify file information on external disks.
>
> FotoToon is now a favorite activity by default.
>
> XO-1.5 graphics rendering bugs could be seen sometimes in Moon and
> Browse - now fixed.
>
> XO-1.5 laptops using the original XO-1 "ALPS" keyboard are now usable again.
>
> The XO-1.5 boot partition is now correctly mounted after boots where
> activation happens.
>
> The blank screen during XO-1 boot no longer happens.
>
>
> Closed tickets:
> #10851 mysterious black monolith on the moon
> #10880 Display corruption in Firefox displaying a png
> #11015 Barbershop-style Video corruption on XO-1.5 in 11.2.0
> #10941 Clock, Abacus, HelloWorld, Fototoon not favorite
> #11016 ALPS keyboard on XO-1.5 outputs gibberish in OFW & Linux
> #11018 /bootpart not mounted after activation
> #11019 black screen during XO-1 boot
> #10749 salut: mission control account information is not updated when
> changing the nick name
> #10965 When connected to school server and using gabble buddy is drawn
> twice in home view
> #10675 Shared activity users do not get clustered around activities
> they are collaborating in
> #10840 Entry not colored when started from external device (or first
> copied from device)
> #10717 Journal: Can not change entry information on external device
> #10841 Journal: Rescan of external device view when dragging an image
> #10817 friendstray does represent buddies of a shared activity we have
> not joined yet
> #10906 Transfer files in sharing from one to many is broken
> SL#2880 Use the same wording for the filesize of an entry without a file
> SL#2926 Journal detail view: sync updates of elements
>
> Thanks!
> Daniel
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Kevin Gordon | 1 Jul 2011 19:35
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Build 871

DSD:

1) Cant seem to connect to the download directories.  Main one yes, the subdirectories with the XO1 and XO1-5 stuff, nope. 

2) Meanwhile, I've hooked the serial adapter up onto an XO with a fresh 870, and tried to boot with the USB2VGA adapter plugged in.  Watched the messages stream by, nothing seemed amiss.  Main screen still sticks at the one dot, no life out the adapter. However, hitting enter on the console session attached to the serial adapter does bring up a bash prompt, so it would appeaqr the system isn't actually 'hung' .  So far all I've entered is 'reboot'.  That works :-)   Do you want me to try those same mod commands you had me previously try at the terminal prompt?

Happy Canada Day,

KG


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Daniel Drake | 2 Jul 2011 00:41
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Re: Build 871

On 1 July 2011 18:35, Kevin Gordon <kgordon420 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) Cant seem to connect to the download directories.  Main one yes, the
> subdirectories with the XO1 and XO1-5 stuff, nope.

Strange. Perhaps just a network issue - try again tomorrow.

> 2) Meanwhile, I've hooked the serial adapter up onto an XO with a fresh 870,
> and tried to boot with the USB2VGA adapter plugged in.  Watched the messages
> stream by, nothing seemed amiss.  Main screen still sticks at the one dot,
> no life out the adapter. However, hitting enter on the console session
> attached to the serial adapter does bring up a bash prompt, so it would
> appeaqr the system isn't actually 'hung' .  So far all I've entered is
> 'reboot'.  That works :-)   Do you want me to try those same mod commands
> you had me previously try at the terminal prompt?

Thats interesting. Enable logging on your serial console. Let it boot
and hang, then press enter to get a bash prompt.

Wait 5 minutes - the kernel may detect a hung task and spit out a load
of diagnosis. If this happens, end the session and send me the log.

If everything stays quiet after 5 minutes, run:
echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger

This will output a lot.

Then send me the log.

Thanks
Daniel
Sameer Verma | 2 Jul 2011 05:40

Controlling Wi-Fi radio 'nap-time' reaps big power savings

Saw this on Slashdot. Wonder if it will impact power usage on XOs...

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/070111-duke-wifi.html?hpg1=bn

cheers,
Sameer
Tabitha Roder | 2 Jul 2011 07:11
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Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC-AU revised release candidate

Sorry we could not test this as it wasn't available in time this morning.

Tabitha

On Jul 2, 2011 7:53 AM, "Jerry Vonau" <jvonau <at> shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Please do not use RC1, there was a typo that broke some the
> customizations in the build. If you downloaded it I'm sorry for wasting
> your bandwidth, there is a new image on the way soon[1]. There is one
> additional feature to be tested:
> * Firefox is remembering passwords [801]
>
> Thanks for testing
> Jerry
>
> [1]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC2/
>
>
> On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:39 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
>> The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at
>> https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes
>>
>> Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our
>> system) that we need testing are:
>>
>> * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594]
>> * Browse activity [#654]
>> * Speak activity with english_rp voice [#718]
>> * Screencast activity [#692]
>> * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563]
>> * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564]
>> * camorama in GNOME [#558]
>> * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555]
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sridhar
>>
>>
>> Sridhar Dhanapalan
>> Technical Manager
>> One Laptop per Child Australia
>> M: +61 425 239 701
>> E: sridhar <at> laptop.org.au
>> A: G.P.O. Box 731
>> Sydney, NSW 2001
>> W: www.laptop.org.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 July 2011 08:43, Jerry Vonau <jvonau <at> shaw.ca> wrote:
>> > Hi All:
>> >
>> > This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest
>> > OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now
>> > available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload,
>> > so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level.
>> > The upload is in progress, please be patient.
>> >
>> > Thanks for testing,
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> >
>> > [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks
>> > [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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