Re: Testing KDE4

> Date: Friday 31 Aug 2007 
> From: Sebastian Vahl <ml <at> deadbabylon.de>
> Am Fr 31.August 2007 schrieb JP Renaud:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I run two Fedora boxes (a x86_64 workstation and a x86 laptop) with KDE.
> > I'd like to try KDE4 to provide bug reports etc... Basically I just saw
> > the release schedule has been modified [1] and though it's about time I
> > help too.
> >
> > I don't have much time so it would be nice if the testing could be done
> > as part of my daily work ... but with an option to just come back to a
> > standard KDE3 session if it is too unstable.
>
> Hi.
>
> ATM the kde4 rpms are not ready to be installed beside kde3 (yet, Rex,
> please correct me If I misunderstood you in this case). I for myself use an
> extra rawhide partition with kde4 only for this.
> Hopefully I'll get a KDE4 livecd with the packages from kde-redhat online
> this weekend. So maybe this will help a little bit.
>
> Sebastian

I see. Would there be a way to install KDE4 and set up another user on my 
system to use it, not mixing KDE3 and KDE4 sessions? The proprietary apps I 
use for work are not KDE based anyway and I do a lot from vi in the console 
so I guess I could loose my standard KDE apps for the sake of testing once in 
a while.

Re: Testing KDE4

On 9/1/07, JP Renaud <jprenaud <at> emailplus.org> wrote:
>
>
> > Date: Friday 31 Aug 2007
> > From: Sebastian Vahl <ml <at> deadbabylon.de>
> > Am Fr 31.August 2007 schrieb JP Renaud:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I run two Fedora boxes (a x86_64 workstation and a x86 laptop) with KDE.
> > > I'd like to try KDE4 to provide bug reports etc... Basically I just saw
> > > the release schedule has been modified [1] and though it's about time I
> > > help too.
> > >
> > > I don't have much time so it would be nice if the testing could be done
> > > as part of my daily work ... but with an option to just come back to a
> > > standard KDE3 session if it is too unstable.
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > ATM the kde4 rpms are not ready to be installed beside kde3 (yet, Rex,
> > please correct me If I misunderstood you in this case). I for myself use an
> > extra rawhide partition with kde4 only for this.
> > Hopefully I'll get a KDE4 livecd with the packages from kde-redhat online
> > this weekend. So maybe this will help a little bit.
> >
> > Sebastian
>
> I see. Would there be a way to install KDE4 and set up another user on my
> system to use it, not mixing KDE3 and KDE4 sessions? The proprietary apps I
> use for work are not KDE based anyway and I do a lot from vi in the console

Re: Testing KDE4

> Date: Saturday 01 Sep 2007 
> From: "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa <at> gmail.com>
> On 9/1/07, JP Renaud <jprenaud <at> emailplus.org> wrote:
> > > Date: Friday 31 Aug 2007
> > > From: Sebastian Vahl <ml <at> deadbabylon.de>
> > >
> > > Am Fr 31.August 2007 schrieb JP Renaud:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I run two Fedora boxes (a x86_64 workstation and a x86 laptop) with
> > > > KDE. I'd like to try KDE4 to provide bug reports etc... Basically I
> > > > just saw the release schedule has been modified [1] and though it's
> > > > about time I help too.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have much time so it would be nice if the testing could be
> > > > done as part of my daily work ... but with an option to just come
> > > > back to a standard KDE3 session if it is too unstable.
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > ATM the kde4 rpms are not ready to be installed beside kde3 (yet, Rex,
> > > please correct me If I misunderstood you in this case). I for myself
> > > use an extra rawhide partition with kde4 only for this.
> > > Hopefully I'll get a KDE4 livecd with the packages from kde-redhat
> > > online this weekend. So maybe this will help a little bit.
> > >
> > > Sebastian
> >
> > I see. Would there be a way to install KDE4 and set up another user on my

Problem Updating kdemultimedia-extras

% yum update kdemultimedia-extras.i386
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Update Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Excluding Packages from RPMForge: Dries
Finished
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package kdemultimedia-extras.i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6.5 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: libnoatuntags.so.1 for package: kdeaddons
--> Processing Dependency: libnoatuncontrols.so.1 for package: kdeaddons
--> Processing Dependency: libnoatunarts.so for package: kdeaddons
--> Processing Dependency: libnoatun.so.1 for package: kdeaddons
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatuntags.so.1 is needed by package kdeaddons
Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatuncontrols.so.1 is needed by package kdeaddons
Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatunarts.so is needed by package kdeaddons
Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatun.so.1 is needed by package kdeaddons

I did an 'rpm --erase kdeaddons; yum update kdemultimedia-extras', but that
gave me all kinds of conflicts with kdemultimedia.

Ideas?
-Allen

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Re: kde-redhat-users Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1

I have running fedora 8/rawhide in vmware
What must i do to get kde4-packages, yes i know it will not be included in fedora 8, but i like a testing-system because
the opensuse-livecd is running like a fish on sand - click - drink coffee - click - drink coffee again 

Following Repo-File, but yum cant find anything

[kde-redhat]
name=kde-redhat - Fedora $releasever
baseurl=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/8/$basearch/stable
#baseurl=ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/kde-redhat/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/stable
failovermethod=priority
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/gpg-pubkey-ff6382fa-3e1ab2ca

[kde-redhat-testing]
name=kde-redhat-testing
baseurl=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/8/$basearch/testing
#mirrorlist=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/testing/mirrors
failovermethod=priority
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/gpg-pubkey-ff6382fa-3e1ab2ca

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Re: kde4 pkgs

Only-For-Spam wrote:
> I have running fedora 8/rawhide in vmware
> What must i do to get kde4-packages, yes i know it will not be included in fedora 8, but i like a
testing-system because
> the opensuse-livecd is running like a fish on sand - click - drink coffee - click - drink coffee again 
>
> Following Repo-File, but yum cant find anything
>
> [kde-redhat]
> name=kde-redhat - Fedora $releasever
> baseurl=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/8/$basearch/stable
> #baseurl=ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/kde-redhat/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/stable
> failovermethod=priority
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
> gpgkey=http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/gpg-pubkey-ff6382fa-3e1ab2ca
>
> [kde-redhat-testing]
> name=kde-redhat-testing
> baseurl=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/8/$basearch/testing
> #mirrorlist=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/testing/mirrors
> failovermethod=priority
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=1
> gpgkey=http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/gpg-pubkey-ff6382fa-3e1ab2ca
>   
You need to enablel the unstable repo, that's where the all the kde4
stuff is.

-- Rex

Re: Problem Updating kdemultimedia-extras

Allen Winter wrote:
> % yum update kdemultimedia-extras.i386
> Loading "installonlyn" plugin
> Setting up Update Process
> Setting up repositories
> Reading repository metadata in from local files
> Excluding Packages from RPMForge: Dries
> Finished
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> ---> Package kdemultimedia-extras.i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6.5 set to be updated
> --> Running transaction check
> --> Processing Dependency: libnoatuntags.so.1 for package: kdeaddons
> --> Processing Dependency: libnoatuncontrols.so.1 for package: kdeaddons
> --> Processing Dependency: libnoatunarts.so for package: kdeaddons
> --> Processing Dependency: libnoatun.so.1 for package: kdeaddons
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatuntags.so.1 is needed by package kdeaddons
> Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatuncontrols.so.1 is needed by package kdeaddons
> Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatunarts.so is needed by package kdeaddons
> Error: Missing Dependency: libnoatun.so.1 is needed by package kdeaddons
>
> I did an 'rpm --erase kdeaddons; yum update kdemultimedia-extras', but that
> gave me all kinds of conflicts with kdemultimedia.
>
> Ideas?
>
>   
Yeah, I'll have to ask Than to issue an update to kdemultimedia for fc6
(due to incompatibilities to packages released first by me here, and

Re: kde4 pkgs

Hmm - Semms that KDE4 is not running really
I have removed all packages with conflicts by installing with rpm -e --nodeps to pretend kill the whole
system and
installed the following, but init 5 shows no gui

One of the packages has made a backup auf "dkmrc" which i have renamed

Running Transaction
  Installing: gamin-devel                  ####################### [ 1/14]
  Installing: libXi-devel                  ####################### [ 2/14]
  Installing: raptor                       ####################### [ 3/14]
  Installing: rasqal                       ####################### [ 4/14]
  Installing: redland                      ####################### [ 5/14]
  Installing: soprano                      ####################### [ 6/14]
  Installing: qt4-devel                    ####################### [ 7/14]
  Installing: clucene-core                 ####################### [ 8/14]
  Installing: strigi-libs                  ####################### [ 9/14]
  Installing: strigi-devel                 ####################### [10/14]
  Installing: kdelibs4                     ####################### [11/14]
  Installing: kdepimlibs                   ####################### [12/14]
  Installing: kdebase4                     ####################### [13/14]
  Installing: kdelibs4-devel               ####################### [14/14]

Installed: kdebase4.i386 0:3.92.0-4.fc8 kdelibs4-devel.i386 0:3.92.0-5.fc8
Dependency Installed: clucene-core.i386 0:0.9.16a-1.fc7 gamin-devel.i386 0:0.1.9-2.fc8
kdelibs4.i386 0:3.92.0-5.fc8
kdepimlibs.i386 0:3.92.0-3.fc8 libXi-devel.i386 0:1.1.1-2.fc8 qt4-devel.i386 0:4.3.1-3.fc8
raptor.i386 0:1.4.14-3.fc7
rasqal.i386 0:0.9.12-5.fc7 redland.i386 0:1.0.5-6.fc8 soprano.i386 0:0.9.0-4.fc8

Re: kde4 pkgs

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Only-For-Spam wrote:

>
> Hmm - Semms that KDE4 is not running really
> I have removed all packages with conflicts by installing with rpm -e --nodeps to pretend kill the whole
system and
> installed the following, but init 5 shows no gui

True, you'll likely (still) need gdm, kde'4 kdm doesn't really work yet. 
There's a very good reason these pkgs are in unstable and we haven't 
been shouting all too loudly about folks testing them.  The unresolved 
conflicts with kde3 is the biggest reason.

And, the rpm -e --nodeps is not the best of ideas if you want to preserve 
a usable system.

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