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Christoph Eckert | 1 Sep 2005 01:03
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Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?


> Before this gets into a flame war, let's just operate under the
> assertion that the "best" window manager/desktop environment is
> strictly a matter of personal preference.

yes it is. Mine is KDE. It eats hardware but I do not care. It's 
configurable and convenient, and I like the development process.

Many bugs and feature requests I've posted have been fixed or included 
in a very short time. It's stable and consistent, and there are a lot 
of "third party" applications which integrate perfectly.

No flamewar, but most of the above reasons are not valid for Gnome. I 
dislike applications with multi panel windows, and the file open and 
save dialog, a basic GUI element, simply is a pain compared to KDE.

Best regards

    ce

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Paul Maszy | 1 Sep 2005 01:04

Re: Trouble with mysql


    You shouldnt have restarted.

    mysql is already starting on boot up. It showing that many mysql daemons is normal and ok.

    # /etc/init.d/mysql stop
--- You will probably get an error here, if everything happened as you said. If not, your done.
 
    kill -9 `ps -ef | grep mysql | awk '{ print $2 }'`
   
    As for connecting to mysql, try without a password
    # mysql -u root


    See if it connects.



    Until you determine what is starting it, dont reboot. It just puts you back to square 1. I think the question you are asking is why is mysql already running. Its gotta be starting in the init scripts somehow, and if its not in /etc/init.d/mysql I would check for other scripts starting it.

    # grep mysql /etc/init.d/*



   

Michael Sullivan wrote:
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 22:37 +0100, Tim Igoe wrote:
Michael Sullivan wrote:
I am having trouble with /etc/init.d/mysql. I rebooted my system, and when it finished rebooting I tried to connect to the mysql daemon and failed. I looked in /var/log/mysql: There was a file there called mysql.err. The contents were: 050831 15:47:29 mysqld started 050831 15:47:30 Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Address already in use 050831 15:47:30 Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ? 050831 15:47:30 Aborting 050831 15:47:30 /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown Complete 050831 15:47:30 mysqld ended
check the output of ps aux look for mysqld processes in the list - if it is running then try killing the mysqld processes or restarting the machine
I tried netstat | grep '3306': bullet mysql # netstat | grep '3306' bullet mysql #
netstat -n | grep 3306 or netstat | grep mysql might be better
The output was blank, so I assume that port 3306 is NOT in use. Any ideas?
Do you have something else that could be using the port - a rootkit or someone else running a service on the box?
I did ps aux | grep 'mysqld' and got a listing of several mysqld processes. I killed each one using kill -9 and then rebooted the machine. Once it was fully rebooted I issued another ps aux | grep 'mysqld'. Here is the output: bullet ~ # ps aux | grep 'mysqld' root 8115 0.0 1.5 2216 948 ? Ss 11:50 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf mysql 8151 0.2 3.9 38728 2416 ? S 11:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock mysql 8153 0.0 3.9 38728 2420 ? S 11:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock mysql 8154 0.0 3.9 38728 2420 ? S 11:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock mysql 8155 0.0 3.9 38728 2420 ? S 11:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock root 8848 0.0 0.8 1448 492 pts/0 S+ 11:51 0:00 grep mysqld bullet ~ # I have no idea why so many of them are being started. How do I stop my system from starting more than one mysql daemon?

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Walter Willis | 1 Sep 2005 01:09
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Re: problem with X100P clone

i am change user asterisk for root and work fine

is correct the change?

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Neil Bothwick | 1 Sep 2005 01:26
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Re: KDE preferences

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:38:24 +0100 (WEST), Jorge Almeida wrote:

> When kde started the first time, the wizard
> showed its face and I told it to quit (didn't want to lose my
> preferences, of course).

You didn't have any preferences, that's why the wizard started.

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Neil Bothwick | 1 Sep 2005 01:28
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Re: KDE preferences

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:45:17 +0100 (WEST), Jorge Almeida wrote:

> > rm -fr ~/.kde3.4
> > cp -a ~/.kde3.3 ~/.kde3.4

> Nope.

Nope what? Nope, it didn't work? nope you didn't try it?

Your 3.3 preferences should have been transferred the first time
you started 3.4, they were for me. My best guess is that you didn't
emerge whichever component is responsible for this.

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Neil Bothwick | 1 Sep 2005 01:32
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Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:28:21 -0500, Matt Garman wrote:

> So, having said that, what window manager do you use, and why?  I
> wouldn't trade the multitude of options availabe in Linux for
> anything, but the choices can be overwhelming.

KDE. I've tried others but always end up missing some feature of KDE so I
go back. Yes, it has more features and options than I'd ever use, but i'd
rather have 50 unwanted features than be missing one that I need.

Konqueror is simply awesome, due in no small part to the kioslaves giving
access to just about any type of data from any source.

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Fernando Canizo | 1 Sep 2005 01:41
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Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

El 31/ago/2005 a las 19:28 -0300, Matt me decía:
> I've played with a lot of 'em, starting with fvwm, through window
> maker, enlightenment 15 & 16, icewm, gnome, xfce, kde, blackbox...
> I've been using Fluxbox for quite a while now.
> 
> I want something that is fairly minimal/lightweight, but with a hint
> of eye candy and a functional "panel" or taskbar.  Fluxbox just
> about has this, but, I can't seem to figure out how to get a
> gnome-like panel (unless I ran gnome, which would trump the
> lighweight requirement).

Hum... then 'wmi' (http://wmi.modprobe.de/) doesn't apply to you.

But i have at least to friends that were using fluxbox and said to me
that they already find the WM they want, that they're conformant, etc,
etc, and now they are using wmi ;)

I think 'wmi' is the right WM for CLI users.

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Steve B | 1 Sep 2005 01:35
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Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

On 9/1/05, Matt Garman <garman <at> raw-sewage.net> wrote:

Before this gets into a flame war, let's just operate under the
assertion that the "best" window manager/desktop environment is
strictly a matter of personal preference.

So, having said that, what window manager do you use, and why? 
 
I was in the same position as you a couple of years ago.  I tried various WM's and wasn't sure which one to stick with.  I came up with the following.  I used Gnome for a long time, however about six months ago I switched to KDE permantly.  I do miss certian things about gnome (like better integration with D-Bus and automounting hardware), and despite the fact that I primarly program with wxWidgets and not Qt.. I still have found KDE to be the most usefull to me.  I think the big change for me was when Gentoo started the split KDE ebuild's so I don't have to have a huge monolithic KDE install anymore.  Just the basics and some stuff that I acctualy use.  KDE is no longer a hardware/cpu hog and doesn't take much more resources than Fluxbox.  However I still use fluxbox if I am going to run a game such as AA.
 
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Andrew MacKenzie | 1 Sep 2005 01:38

Re: problem with X100P clone

+++ Walter Willis [gentoo-user] [Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:09:35PM -0500]:
> i am change user asterisk for root and work fine
> 
> is correct the change?
It's possible you didn't add the "asterisk" user to the correct groups?

I added asterisk to the "audio" and "dialout" groups.  "dialout" is
necessary to read "/dev/zaptel/1".

Also, after running as root, make sure that all the asterisk files are
still readable/writable by asterisk.  Otherwise you'll have problems
switching back...

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Matt Randolph | 1 Sep 2005 02:36
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Re: extreme clock drift / openntpd won't sync

This is almost certainly a hardware problem. If it isn't a hardware 
problem, it is at least not distribution specific. This doesn't really 
belong in a Gentoo mailing list. That being said...

Some rhetorical questions (in no particular order):

Does the problem persist when you use Knoppix? Does the problem persist 
when you use Windoze? Are you overclocking? Did you fiddle with any 
voltages in BIOS? Does the problem go away if you use a different power 
supply? Do you have the latest BIOS? Have you tried an older BIOS? Does 
your BIOS or xsensors (or equivalent) report reasonable voltages? Do you 
have a replacement motherboard? Have you tried changing the update 
interval of your NTP daemon to a smaller value? What was the last thing 
you did before the problem started? Is the motherboard still under 
warranty? Are you competent to solder a new oscillator onto your 
motherboard?

Good luck!

Matt Garman wrote:

>My system clock is running extremely fast... 
>
>So, my questions are: (1) what would cause my clock to run so fast?  And
>(2) why can't any ntp daemon keep correct time?
>  
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