Gentoo science status

Hello all,

I wanted to get heads up for our science project.

* Manpower:
  First our under staffed recruitment team found some time to
  turn Justin Lecher (jlec) an official Gentoo developer who
  hasn't stopped into helping for the science and chemistry packages.
  Welcome Justin!
  We have a couple of people also in the mentoring process who will be
  great new addition to the team. And as always we need more hands. So
  anyone interested, contact the sci team.

  We also need to know whether we still want a leader. Some time ago
  the question was raised, but got no definite answer.

* Bugs:
  I have not done the counts, but I see we are actually improving quite
  a bit and killing a lot of old and nasty bugs. I think we are still

* Documentation: 
  We need to revamp our project documentation. I started some doc in
  our overlay [1] long time ago, but feel free to update, propose
  patches or rewrite it entirely if you don't like it. Denis had some
  electronics docs in his site, so we could also merge it. A wiki would
  be very nice, but first it would be worth checking how many people are
  actually using Gentoo for science.
  One another simple thing is also add a <longdescription> tag in the
  metadata.xml of our packages which I think useful to discover quickly
  a new package and give credits for upstream.

Re: Gentoo science status

Hi Sébastien,

Thanks for the nice summary of the current state
of affairs.

> 
>   We also need to know whether we still want a leader. Some time ago
>   the question was raised, but got no definite answer.

I think if we decide that we want a leader we should clearly
define what we expect her/him to do. We're a very diverse
bunch and the packages in science.g.o span a wide range of
fields so I am not 100% convinced that a lead will necessarily
be very effective. On the other hand, there are a few things
that definitely need improvement, documentation and eclasses
being some candidates here, and it might be nice to have somebody
who feels responsible and coordinates/delegates a bit. I'd
probably need a nudge once in a while ;)

> * Documentation: 
>   We need to revamp our project documentation. I started some doc in
>   our overlay [1] long time ago, but feel free to update, propose
>   patches or rewrite it entirely if you don't like it. Denis had some
>   electronics docs in his site, so we could also merge it. A wiki would
>   be very nice, but first it would be worth checking how many people are
>   actually using Gentoo for science.

Better docs are definitely something we need. It would probably be
good to either have a dev or maybe one of our users assess and then
coordinate this a bit.

Re: Gentoo science status

Hi all,

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:33:46 Markus Dittrich wrote:
> Hi Sébastien,
> 
> Thanks for the nice summary of the current state
> of affairs.
> 
> >   We also need to know whether we still want a leader. Some time ago
> >   the question was raised, but got no definite answer.
> 
> I think if we decide that we want a leader we should clearly
> define what we expect her/him to do. We're a very diverse
> bunch and the packages in science.g.o span a wide range of
> fields so I am not 100% convinced that a lead will necessarily
> be very effective. On the other hand, there are a few things
> that definitely need improvement, documentation and eclasses
> being some candidates here, and it might be nice to have somebody
> who feels responsible and coordinates/delegates a bit. I'd
> probably need a nudge once in a while ;)
> 

Actually Gentoo hierarchy is quite pragmatic and flexible, we can have
several leads - but I guess the implication would be to effectively split
into sub-project which is fine if we wanted too.

> > * Documentation:
> >   We need to revamp our project documentation. I started some doc in
> >   our overlay [1] long time ago, but feel free to update, propose
> >   patches or rewrite it entirely if you don't like it. Denis had some

Re: Gentoo science status

>   We also need to know whether we still want a leader. Some time ago
>   the question was raised, but got no definite answer.

It would be nice to have a head count to see how many of us are active
to get an idea how much there is to lead. The mail aliases in
dev.g.o are very different than what the project page states, which is
different than the last round of head counts. I created an empty
dev table on the science overlay draft docs [1]. So each active dev and
contributor, please either update the table with your user name and
role or send me an email so that I can update it if you don't have
access to it.

> * Bugs:
>   I have not done the counts, but I see we are actually improving
> quite a bit and killing a lot of old and nasty bugs. I think we are
> still

...lagging on stabilization of our packages (sorry for the incomplete
sentence). Stabilization bugs are boring and I wish one of us had time
and infrastructure to set up an automated testing framework. Meanwhile,
let's stabilize as much as we can the much overdue packages.

[1] git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sci.git: docs/proj/index.xml

--
Sébastien

Re: Gentoo science status

On 02/03/2010 11:38 AM, Sébastien Fabbro wrote:
> * Manpower:
>   First our under staffed recruitment team found some time to
>   turn Justin Lecher (jlec) an official Gentoo developer who
>   hasn't stopped into helping for the science and chemistry packages.
>   Welcome Justin!

Welcome indeed!

>   We also need to know whether we still want a leader. Some time ago
>   the question was raised, but got no definite answer.

I'm not opposed to having a leader, but I'd be pleasantly suprised if
someone has the time.

>   be very nice, but first it would be worth checking how many people are
>   actually using Gentoo for science.

I know of about 20 scientists in Houston using gentoo right now.

>   One another simple thing is also add a <longdescription> tag in the
>   metadata.xml of our packages which I think useful to discover quickly
>   a new package and give credits for upstream.

Very good idea!

> 
> 
> Best,

Re: Gentoo science status

Hi All!

I want to support gentoo-science and especially sage-on-gentoo. I'm also
interested to become official gentoo dev. Whats the way to go .. where
can is tart?

best regrads,

Bjoern Thorwirth

Am Mittwoch, den 03.02.2010, 09:38 -0800 schrieb Sébastien Fabbro:
> Hello all,
> 
> I wanted to get heads up for our science project.
> 
> * Manpower:
>   First our under staffed recruitment team found some time to
>   turn Justin Lecher (jlec) an official Gentoo developer who
>   hasn't stopped into helping for the science and chemistry packages.
>   Welcome Justin!
>   We have a couple of people also in the mentoring process who will be
>   great new addition to the team. And as always we need more hands. So
>   anyone interested, contact the sci team.
> 
>   We also need to know whether we still want a leader. Some time ago
>   the question was raised, but got no definite answer.
> 
> * Bugs:
>   I have not done the counts, but I see we are actually improving quite
>   a bit and killing a lot of old and nasty bugs. I think we are still

Re: Gentoo science status

2010/2/17 Björn Thorwirth <bjoern.thorwirth <at> uni-due.de>:
> Hi All!
>
> I want to support gentoo-science and especially sage-on-gentoo. I'm also
> interested to become official gentoo dev. Whats the way to go .. where
> can is tart?

The Gentoo Developer Handbook is a good starting point, see
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml

Neil

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Re: Gentoo science status

Björn Thorwirth wrote:

> Hi All!
> 
> I want to support gentoo-science and especially sage-on-gentoo. I'm
> also interested to become official gentoo dev. Whats the way to go ..
> where can is tart?

Hi,

Thanks for your offer! I would suggest to find us in
irc in #gentoo-science, see also the dev manual [1] and if you are
interested in sage-on-gentoo, contact the main developers.

[1] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/

--
Sébastien

Re: Gentoo science status

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:26:25 Björn Thorwirth wrote:
> Hi All!
> 
> I want to support gentoo-science and especially sage-on-gentoo. I'm also
> interested to become official gentoo dev. Whats the way to go .. where
> can is tart?
> 
Hi Björn,

The sage-on-gentoo team - that is me and Christopher certainly welcome
helpers. At this point testing things out is useful. But do come on irc as
suggested by Sebastien Fabbro Christopher (gnuke) and I (kiwifb) will be 
happy to discuss what you could do.

Francois

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