Joachim Bartosik | 4 Aug 10:21 2010
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Recruiters web application – please help testing

If you prefer to read this with some formatting wisit [0].

Hello,
please help testing web application I’m developing for Gentoo Recruiters team.

Demo
Here[1] is an instance of the application you can use for testing. If
you do please remember a few things:

   * Don’t use your real email. There is no need to. There is no point to.
   * This instance can not send email notifications.
   * I will probably wipe its database from time to time so don’t put
anything you don’t want deleted there.

Sources

If you want to read sources or run your own instance of the
application you can obtain sources of the application from git
repository on overlays.gentoo.org [2]. When running your own instance
of application remember a few things:

   * If you start application in ‘development’ mode it will be
incredibly slow. You will be able to choose user from drop down list
instead of logging in.
   * It’s tested for PostgreSQL and MySQL, probably will work with SQLite.

To get started do following:

git clone git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/recruiting-webapp.git
cd recruiting-webapp
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Torsten Veller | 5 Aug 09:23 2010
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perl-experimental overlay reports to #g-commits

The CIA bot will report commits to the perl-experimental overlay in
#gentoo-commits. It's the third overlay, after kde-overlay and
qting-edge.

I don't remember any discussion about adding overlay commit messages to
#g-commits, so if anyone thinks it's a bad idea, please explain why.

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Joshua Saddler | 9 Aug 06:22 2010
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Re: Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:22:18 -0700
"Paweł Hajdan, Jr." <phajdan.jr <at> gentoo.org> wrote:

> I'd like to suggest a cleanup of our "Get Gentoo" page. It is one of the
> more important pages, because every new user has to visit it.

I already did clean it up when I punted the last of the 2008.0 references from it, and some other sundry fixes.

By shifting stuff around, you've put all the explanations of "what all these weirdly named things are" to
the end, which means visitors may be more confused. I'm not sure this was the best idea, but lemme think
about it awhile longer.

Also, please don't EVER set reply-to to "gentoo-project" when the topic is actually something related to
distribution development, in this case, the landing page.
Petteri Räty | 9 Aug 09:02 2010
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Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On 08/09/2010 07:22 AM, Joshua Saddler wrote:

> 
> Also, please don't EVER set reply-to to "gentoo-project" when the
> topic is actually something related to distribution development, in
> this case, the landing page.

Replying to gentoo-dev-announce is rarely correct too. About everything
is in some way related to distribution development. The distinction is
whether it is technical in nature and I don't think this qualifies.

Regards,
Petteri

Mike Frysinger | 9 Aug 09:11 2010
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Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:22 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> What do you think?

i'm wondering why this was posted to gentoo-dev-announce.  this isnt
an announcement that needs the attention of gentoo developers.
-mike

Roy Bamford | 9 Aug 09:20 2010
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Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On 2010.08.09 02:22, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
> I'd like to suggest a cleanup of our "Get Gentoo" page. It is one of
> the
> more important pages, because every new user has to visit it.
> 
[snip]
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 

I would like to see some explaination of what each arch covers. Many 
users get the wrong iso/tarball the first time around.

e.g. x86 instead of i686 and vice versa, ia64 instead of amd64.

If this were a table, you could list the CPU families covered by each 
group.

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Sebastian Pipping | 9 Aug 20:20 2010
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Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On 08/09/10 03:22, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> I'd like to suggest a cleanup of our "Get Gentoo" page. It is one of the
> more important pages, because every new user has to visit it.
>
> My main goal was to make the most important links extremely easy to
> find, so I've moved the download links to the beginning of the page.
>
> You can see the suggested page rendering here:
>
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~phajdan.jr/where.xml

Looks less confusing and more friendly.

My vote for it.

> For reference, the current version:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
>
> To view the XML source of my modifications, see
> <http://dev.gentoo.org/~phajdan.jr/where.xml?passthru=1>. The block I
> have moved is not modified at all, so the diff should be quite clean.
>
> What do you think?
>

Sebastian

Markos Chandras | 9 Aug 23:54 2010
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Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 08:20:18PM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> On 08/09/10 03:22, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> > I'd like to suggest a cleanup of our "Get Gentoo" page. It is one of the
> > more important pages, because every new user has to visit it.
> >
> > My main goal was to make the most important links extremely easy to
> > find, so I've moved the download links to the beginning of the page.
> >
> > You can see the suggested page rendering here:
> >
> > http://dev.gentoo.org/~phajdan.jr/where.xml
> 
> Looks less confusing and more friendly.
> 
> My vote for it.
> 
> 
I like it very much :-)

+1
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"Paweł Hajdan, Jr." | 11 Aug 05:45 2010
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Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On 8/8/10 9:22 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> I already did clean it up when I punted the last of the 2008.0
> references from it, and some other sundry fixes.

I appreciate that cleanup, and noticed a recent "last updated" date.

However, I think the page can be made even better. My goal is to make
downloading Gentoo as straightforward as possible.

On 8/8/10 9:22 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> By shifting stuff around, you've put all the explanations of "what
> all these weirdly named things are" to the end, which means visitors
> may be more confused. I'm not sure this was the best idea, but lemme
> think about it awhile longer.

Let's analyze it. Maybe we can display the links in a different way, but
the only info I have moved below the download links seems to be:

- releng project page link
- information that the isos and stages are generated weekly, and other
  technical details like that

Please note that the Gentoo Handbook link is still there, before the
download links.

Ideally, I'd like to expose x86 and amd64 (most common desktop arches)
even more. People who need different arches know what they are doing,
but many users are confused by all this arch thing, but may still be
able to install Gentoo by following the instructions precisely.

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Alex Alexander | 12 Aug 02:11 2010
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Upcoming Council meeting on August 23rd, 1900 UTC

The Council will have its next meeting on the 23rd of August, 2010.

The meeting will begin at 1900 UTC [0].

Here's a draft list of (possible) agenda items so far:

* EAPI 4 status
* GLEP 54
* GLEP 55

If you have anything you'd like to push to the council for
discussion, feel free to reply to this thread.

[0] meeting time in your timezone:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~wired/localtime.php?time=1900
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