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Christian Ruppert | 8 Feb 02:38
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*.overlays.gentoo.org gets a new home

Hello everybody,

while overlays.gentoo.org was down today/yesterday we decided to give it a new
home.
Interestring for you, the new server will be more powerful, it is also located
in the EU.

The migration will begin around 4-5PM, today Wed Feb 8 2012 UTC.
The expected downtime is around 2-3 hours but it *may* take up to 24 hours
because of the DNS change.
We will try to keep read-only access up as long as possible.
That means git:// and svn:// may be available all the time.

Old host:
pelican.gentoo.org aka *.overlays.gentoo.org - 66.219.59.40
RSA f0:11:07:30:1a:04:06:7c:16:a6:a8:1c:7b:7e:45:9e
DSA 8b:af:c7:76:93:23:24:c1:8d:b4:4d:cb:0f:df:70:84
ECDSA 54:5b:d3:c9:84:95:13:8a:a6:93:1d:d4:fe:2d:cb:f6

New host:
hornbill.gentoo.org - 94.100.119.163
RSA cc:f7:ac:e3:a7:43:fb:b1:ed:80:ed:44:b9:58:fd:c3
DSA ca:76:82:94:02:59:42:81:34:89:2d:4f:84:23:97:91
ECDSA 90:b8:da:ae:f6:e0:d5:8f:07:71:01:f4:38:72:ab:95

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

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Fabian Groffen | 2 Feb 09:55
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Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-02-14

All,

In less than two weeks from now, the council will meet again.  This is
the time to raise and prepare items that the council should put on the
agenda to vote on.

Please respond to this email with agenda items.  Please do not hestitate
to repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously
suggested one (since the last meeting).

The agenda for the next meeting will be sent out on Tuesday 7th of
February 2012.

Please respond to gentoo-project list, if possible.

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Andreas K. Huettel | 27 Jan 19:00
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FOSDEM & Wiki


Why not use a Wiki page to collect some event-specific information in a semi-
random fashion? :)

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2012

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dilfridge <at> gentoo.org
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Markos Chandras | 24 Jan 21:01
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New Developer: Jeff "jdhore" Horelick


Good evening everyone,

It is my pleasure to announce a new Gentoo developer. Jeff "jdhore"
Horelick is joining us from New York, USA and he will be working in
x86, net-irc and mozilla teams. Here is how he describes himself:

"I'm a sysadmin from New York City and apart from my work and Gentoo,
I enjoy long walks on the beach...kidding...I actually enjoy hardware
hacking, working on my cars, learning all I can about psychology and
doing some Parkour to keep in shape."

Please give him a warm welcome and assign the usual bug load^W^W
features requests to the mozilla and net-irc teams.

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Sven Vermeulen | 24 Jan 20:33
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Gentoo <at> FOSDEM dinner

Hi all,

Still somewhat on short notice, but not undoable, I am planning a
Gentoo <at> FOSDEM dinner for saturday 4th of februari. The location will be in
the centre of Brussels, not far from the "Grand Place" ("Grote Markt" in
dutch) so very easily reachable with (public) transportation.

I set my eye on a restaurant called "Vert de Gris" which can serve a group
of tired but hungry people. Although I have no experience with the
restaurant myself, I did get positive feedback from some people and since
the restaurant is available, I am hoping this will give us all a good
accomodation - and food ;-)

To allow proper service for a group of people, the restaurant does ask for a
selection of one of their group menu's (not some people the first menu and
some the second) but the menu's themselves offer the necessary choice to
support the stomachs of most of us.

Below you can find the two menu's offered (freely translated) and their
price. I would appreciate it if you could tell me (if you participate) which
menu you would like and if the other menu is doable for you as well (that
way I can select the most popular menu and still know if people that
selected the other are still interested in participating). 

If you also already know the more detailed selected (within the menu) that
would be appreciated as well, but there is still time left for that later (I
do need to confirm the number of participants soon though). The restaurant
sais they have sufficient room for larger groups (I originally thought about 20
people but they can host much more) so I don't think a "seat limit" is
needed (unless I now get thousands of positive replies ;)
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Mike Frysinger | 18 Jan 12:33
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SCALE 10x

same bat time, same bat place: a bunch of Gentoo devs will be manning a booth 
at this year's SCALE.  stop by and say hi!
-mike
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Thomas Sachau | 7 Jan 01:52
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New Developer John R. Graham

It is a pleasure to announce another addition to our base of developers:
John R. Graham is joining us from the US and will help as a forums
administrator.

Here is, how he describes himself:
>   I'm married, with two almost grown children: one in college (engineering), one
>   about to be (undecided). I'm a private pilot; flying has been a hobby of mine
>   most of my life. I've flown gliders and piston engine airplanes. I have a
>   combined wood and metal shop in my house in which I'm building a small two-
>   seat aerobatic airplane. I'm an avid reader with fairly narrow focus: lots of
>   science fiction, lots of technical books, and the occasional thriller or
>   mystery. Then there's running for bulk exercise, hiking with my wife for
>   pleasure. :)

So give him a warm welcome, dont miss to browse our forums and write
some new lines, so he always has something to read. :-)

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Thomas Sachau | 5 Jan 17:59
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New Developer: Sean "ackle" Amoss

It is a pleasure for me to announce the addition of another developer to
our project:

Sean "ackle" amoss is joining is from the US and will join the Security
team.
This is, how he describes himself:

> I work as a network engineer for Hewlett-Packard. When I am not doing
> that, I like to read, go camping, and cook; a friend and I are currently
> working on a cookbook together.

Please give him a warm welcome.

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Fabian Groffen | 3 Jan 18:57
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Council meeting: Tuesday 10th January 2012, 20:00 UTC

The next council meeting will be on Tuesday 10th January 2012 at 20:00
UTC [1] in the #gentoo-council channel on Freenode.

Proposed agenda:

1. Intro / Roll call (5 minutes)

2. Issues raised after call by the community (0 minutes)
   * No issues were brought up to the Council

3. Open bugs with Council involvement (0 minutes)
   * There are currently no open Council bugs

4. Open actions from previous meetings (5 minutes)
   * eclass API changes discussion from meeting 20111108 (grobian)
   * moving council elections results to the elections project space
     (jmbsvicetto)

5. Open floor (10 minutes)

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/utctolocal.html?time=2000

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Paweł Hajdan, Jr. | 2 Jan 15:47
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let's stop using short gpg key ids, that's insecure

You've probably read (or should)
<http://www.asheesh.org/note/debian/short-key-ids-are-bad-news.html>
which describes why using short gpg key ids is insecure.

Note it's about IDs, i.e. 0x30427902 vs. 0xB9442D9430427902 (it's short
and long ID of my current key), not the keys themselves. That means no
need to change keys, just change the way we display them on web pages
and possibly in other places.

What do you think? Should I file a bug to convert e.g.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml ? Or do we
only have short key IDs in LDAP, which would require everyone to submit
the full ID?
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Fabian Groffen | 27 Dec 20:35
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On eclass APIs

In the Council meeting at 20111108, the Council decided that a backwards
incompatible API change of an eclass should be announced 30-days in
advance:

   "When removing a function or changing the API of an eclass, make
   sure that it doesn't break any ebuilds in the tree, and post a
   notice to gentoo-dev at least 30 days in advance, preferably with
   a patch included."
   http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20111108-summary.txt

In addition to this, a broader discussion on policies for API changes on
eclasses was called for by the Council.  This email tries to open up
that discussion.

The problem of eclass API changes is similar to API/ABI changes found
elsewhere.  Since eclasses are intended to have many consumers, changes
to them can potentially affect many ebuilds or other eclasses, also
outside of Gentoo's main focus (e.g. in overlays).

Currently, the following API changing eclass practices seem to be in use:
- deprecate a function, remove all of its usages, wait, remove the
  function (or entire eclass)
- update a function thereby changing its signature and contract,
  followed by fixing all usages of said function (now has to be
  announced to -dev by Council decision)
- create a new revision of the eclass to hold changed interfaces,
  deprecating older revision(s) of the eclass after a long time
[are there more types of changes here?]

One of the ideas is to use revisions in the way libtool applies its
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