wireless | 14 Feb 2012 18:48
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RAID install document

Hello,

I'm trying to build a simple (all) raid 1
workstation. Just boot/root/swap like
what is found in the handbook.
  Is this the best document to follow:

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software

Since grub2 is now defacto and drive sizes
are routinely over 2T, I guess that Disk-labels
(UUIDs), fstab, gpt and grub2 should all be used
to 'future proof' installations?

There is only a snippet in the handbook
and it couches these and other related issues
around multilib.

Any better, more complete documents are keenly
appreciated.

James

Duncan | 15 Feb 2012 09:13
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Re: RAID install document

wireless posted on Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:48:04 -0500 as excerpted:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to build a simple (all) raid 1 workstation. Just
> boot/root/swap like what is found in the handbook.
>   Is this the best document to follow:
> 
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software
> 
> Since grub2 is now defacto and drive sizes are routinely over 2T, I
> guess that Disk-labels (UUIDs), fstab, gpt and grub2 should all be used
> to 'future proof' installations?
> 
> There is only a snippet in the handbook and it couches these and other
> related issues around multilib.
> 
> Any better, more complete documents are keenly appreciated.

There's no official gentoo grub2 docs at this point, and the existing doc 
(the link given in a grub2 postinstall einfo) is /seriously/ insufficient/
incomplete.  That's one of the big reasons grub2 is still hard-masked, 
not even ~arch yet.

If you can get your grub2 info elsewhere, however, or know it reasonably 
well from experience on other distributions, you'll know it's great for 
gpt even on BIOS systems.  (That's one of the bits missing in that grub2 
doc, BTW, it mentions EFI and mbr-bios but not gpt-bios.)  Of course, 
it's also great for md/raid.

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Sven Vermeulen | 1 Mar 2012 07:44
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Re: ARM manuals

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM, wireless <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> A while back there was talk of Gentoo and Ubuntu exploring
> some deeper form of cooperation; a merger of sorts. Surely
> an interesting idea.

I wasn't aware of that. Do you have some info on this?

> Curiously, Ubuntu seems to be able to
> publish documents, very easily.

Publication isn't an issue. We also have http://wiki.gentoo.org where
you can quickly set up and publish documents.

Wkr,
  Sven Vermeulen

wireless | 1 Mar 2012 17:34
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Re: ARM manuals

On 03/01/12 01:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM, wireless<wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com>  wrote:
>> A while back there was talk of Gentoo and Ubuntu exploring
>> some deeper form of cooperation; a merger of sorts. Surely
>> an interesting idea.
>
> I wasn't aware of that. Do you have some info on this?

The apr 1 info, may be the key parameter. I remember reading snippets
in several locations.... but nothing to recall now. I did not
really focus on the issue at the time, so it is completely
possible it was but a lark, I did not discern.....

Still, an interesting idea, some would think. I have taken
the path of setting up raid under Ubuntu, as suggested to me
by a few old gentoers. While visiting the Ubuntu offerings,
it surprises me to see so many (gentoo) familiar folks bouncing
around and using Ubuntu, for a wide variety of purposes.
Quite a lively and social bunch over there at Ubuntu, many
old friends.....

>> Curiously, Ubuntu seems to be able to
>> publish documents, very easily.
>
> Publication isn't an issue. We also have http://wiki.gentoo.org where
> you can quickly set up and publish documents.
]
Yes you are correct. Also, I did find the Ubuntu installation media
(alternate.iso) for explicitly setting up RAID, as part of the
native Ubuntu installation docs and media.
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Ivan Ferdous | 1 Mar 2012 19:12
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Re: ARM manuals

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On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, wireless <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On 03/01/12 01:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM, wireless<wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com>  wrote:
A while back there was talk of Gentoo and Ubuntu exploring
some deeper form of cooperation; a merger of sorts. Surely
an interesting idea.

I wasn't aware of that. Do you have some info on this?

The apr 1 info, may be the key parameter. I remember reading snippets
in several locations.... but nothing to recall now. I did not
really focus on the issue at the time, so it is completely
possible it was but a lark, I did not discern.....

Still, an interesting idea, some would think. I have taken
the path of setting up raid under Ubuntu, as suggested to me
by a few old gentoers. While visiting the Ubuntu offerings,
it surprises me to see so many (gentoo) familiar folks bouncing
around and using Ubuntu, for a wide variety of purposes.
Quite a lively and social bunch over there at Ubuntu, many
old friends.....


Curiously, Ubuntu seems to be able to
publish documents, very easily.

Publication isn't an issue. We also have http://wiki.gentoo.org where
you can quickly set up and publish documents.
]
Yes you are correct. Also, I did find the Ubuntu installation media
(alternate.iso) for explicitly setting up RAID, as part of the
native Ubuntu installation docs and media.

Furthermore, Ubuntu on arm boards; documents intended for the rank and file users; very cool indeed.

I'm still looking for equivalents in Gentoo; maybe after grub-2
is stable on gentoo, we can get a singular document and matching installation media for installing RAID from scratch.....

Also note,native ARM support for netbooks, laptop and lite-workstations
is coming to many linux distros. I just hope Gentoo leads
rather than follows in that regard. Surely the talent
is in the dev_pool to make it work, it's the documentation
that is the real challenge, imho.

sincerely,
James



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