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Grant Goodyear | 1 Mar 2005 01:16
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Gentoo's current legal status

A few minutes ago, agriffis asked me about Gentoo's current legal
status.  I'm passing along my responses, in case anybody is interested.

First, our legal status is something that the Gentoo Foundation, Inc
trustees are in charge of handling.  I am a trustee, but I don't know
everything that's going on, so I ask the other trustees to correct me
where they see errors or omissions.

Copyright -- We're still obtaining legal help on this issue.  As far as
copyright transfer from Gentoo Technologies to the Gentoo Foundation,
Inc is concerned, my understanding is that drobbins is more than happy
to sign the paperwork once we actually get it to him.

NFP -- Now exists as a legal entity (in the state of New Mexico, to be
specific), but IRS paperwork has not yet been filed.  IRS paperwork
requires bylaws to be in place first.  The specific IRS filing will be
a 501(c)(6), I believe, so donations will not be tax free.

Bylaws -- First draft posted to -dev, with rather few comments.  Need
to move on getting these approved.

Financials -- bank account now exists, but has no money at the moment.

Store -- Official store is run by drobbins for as long as he wishes.  An
official European store may be in the works (drobbins has given his
blessing), but I'm not sure where that is right now.  Drobbins has also
pledged to give some fraction (he specified it, but I've forgotten) of
proceeds to the Gentoo Foundation.  I believe that the actual legal
situation with respect to the store is that drobbins is not obligated to
contribute funds to the foundation; he has offered to do so out of his
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Andrej Kacian | 1 Mar 2005 01:40
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Last rites: net-mail/vmailmgr

Hey all, net-mail/vmailmgr is looking for someone to adopt it, or it will die.

There are four open bugs[1] for this package, last entry in upstream
changelog[2] is from year 2000, and net-mail, nor qmail-bugs are not interested
in maintaining it further.
If noone volunteers to take the package within a week, I'm removing it from
portage.

1. http://tinyurl.com/68jf3
2. http://www.vmailmgr.org/docs/ChangeLog.html

Thanks for your time.
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Robin H. Johnson | 1 Mar 2005 02:21
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Re: sys-apps is too big

On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 08:23:07PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:00:35 +0000 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm <at> gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> | http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/tmp/sys-apps.txt

More suggestions.

These interact with hardware
clrngd -> sys-hardware (it's related to rng-tools)
coldplug -> sys-hardware (related to hotplug)

All of the following are usable as text editors.
less -> app-editors (I consider it a read-only editor)
ed -> app-editors (You can use it on a serial terminal nicely)
sed -> app-editors

These all deal with file-system data in specific ways.
acl -> sys-fs (filesystem ACLs)
attr -> sys-fs (filesystem extended attributes)
dmapi -> sys-fs (XFS specific stuff)
dnotify -> sys-fs (detect changes in filesystem, maybe sys-misc)

All of these handle processes.
runit -> sys-process
minit -> sys-process
daemontools* -> sys-process 
supervise-scripts -> sys-process
(maybe sysvinit too)

linux32 -> app-emulation (or maybe sys-devel with mips32/sparc32)
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Olivier Crête | 1 Mar 2005 02:34
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Re: sys-apps is too big

On Mon, 2005-28-02 at 17:21 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> linux32 -> app-emulation (or maybe sys-devel with mips32/sparc32)

Its not emulation... just tells the OS to advertise itself as i686
instead of x86_64. and its not specifically a dev tool

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Mike Frysinger | 1 Mar 2005 02:41
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x86 vs amd64 :: ppc vs ppc64 (was sys-apps is too big)

On Monday 28 February 2005 08:34 pm, Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-28-02 at 17:21 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > linux32 -> app-emulation (or maybe sys-devel with mips32/sparc32)
>
> Its not emulation... just tells the OS to advertise itself as i686
> instead of x86_64. and its not specifically a dev tool

anyone know why ppc64 doesnt do the samething ?  if you run a 32bit userspace 
system with 64bit kernel, uname advertizes 'powerpc64' instead of 
'powerpc' ...
-mike

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Stephen P. Becker | 1 Mar 2005 02:49
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Re: x86 vs amd64 :: ppc vs ppc64 (was sys-apps is too big)

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 28 February 2005 08:34 pm, Olivier Crête wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 2005-28-02 at 17:21 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>linux32 -> app-emulation (or maybe sys-devel with mips32/sparc32)
>>
>>Its not emulation... just tells the OS to advertise itself as i686
>>instead of x86_64. and its not specifically a dev tool
> 
> 
> anyone know why ppc64 doesnt do the samething ?  if you run a 32bit userspace 
> system with 64bit kernel, uname advertizes 'powerpc64' instead of 
> 'powerpc' ...
> -mike
> 

Well with FEATURES="autoconfig", no arches should really need this 
anymore I would think.  <arch>32 was mostly used just to trick the 
configure script into using something it knows.

Steve

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Mike Frysinger | 1 Mar 2005 03:00
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Re: x86 vs amd64 :: ppc vs ppc64 (was sys-apps is too big)

On Monday 28 February 2005 08:49 pm, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Well with FEATURES="autoconfig", no arches should really need this
> anymore I would think.  <arch>32 was mostly used just to trick the
> configure script into using something it knows.

yes, but autoconfig only covers autotooled based packages, and there are a few 
[significant] packages which call uname ...

i'm thinking of openssl atm really ... i wonder much trouble it would be to 
gut their config script with autotool's config.{sub,guess} ?
-mike
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Michael Imhof | 1 Mar 2005 03:07
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Re: Gentoo Business Cards

Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  at FOSDEM I saw nice Gentoo Business Cards. I was told that one of the
>  developers made an OOo template for these. Where can I find this
>  template?
>
>  Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
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contact ian for the template...
... and why didn't you ask at fosdem?

Regards
Michael
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Stroller | 1 Mar 2005 06:07
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Re: IMPORTANT: master rsync server changes


On Feb 28, 2005, at 8:47 pm, Lance Albertson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm finally confident with the new master rsync server and so I'd 
>>>> like to
>>>> finally point things to it on Wednesday night. It'll be running on 
>>>> a spiffy
>>>> Opteron 246 :) (thank Nvidia for the box!)
>>
>> Who do I thank there ... ?
>
> Seemant has the direct contact (last I knew). I was planning on 
> finally posting
> a thanks in the next GWN (next week), thanking them in more detail.

>> .. and how?

They'd probably like you to thank them here: 
<http://www.nvidia.com/content/wheretobuy/consumer_ns.asp>

Stroller.

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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky | 1 Mar 2005 06:45
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Re: Gentoo Business Cards

Michael Imhof wrote:

> Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  at FOSDEM I saw nice Gentoo Business Cards. I was told that one of the
>>  developers made an OOo template for these. Where can I find this
>>  template?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> -- 
>> Sebastian Bergmann                      
>> http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/
>> GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 
>> 5D69
>
> contact ian for the template...
> ... and why didn't you ask at fosdem?
>
>
> Regards
> Michael

While we're at it, perhaps we could have Gentoo *user* business cards on 
sale at the Gentoo store. I'd pay ten or twenty $US for a template I 
could upload to VistaPrint and run off.
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