Sebastian Pipping | 4 Jul 2011 01:28
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Re: Migrating man page to asciidoc?

On 06/27/2011 05:55 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> On 06/27/2011 05:58 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>> We use 2.0.6.916 on official releng releases.
>> I tried 9999 on my private tests because [..]
> 
> To me that leaves the question who uses 9999 for serious stuff at all.
> In case it's no one (which we should find out) we could trash that
> branch and fully concentrate on calalyst_2.
> 
> I guess that sounds a bit radical at first.  It doesn't have to be a
> quick decision.  Also, version control allows us to bring it back if needed.
> 
> Ideas on find out who is using 9999:
> 
>  - Removing 9999 ebuild from the tree and see who's complaining
> 
>  - Resetting branch master to nothing but a README announcing
>    the possible death of that thread and a request to join
>    this mailing list and speak up about it if there is need.
> 
>  - Asking on one/some/all of gentoo-dev, gentoo-user, gentoo forums,
>    planet gentoo.
> 
> After such action I imagine a time window of 2 to 4 weeks to give people
> a chance to react.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 
>> I can confirm that the build with the master branch fails as it doesn't
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Matt Turner | 4 Jul 2011 02:10
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Re: Migrating man page to asciidoc?

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Sebastian Pipping <sping@...> wrote:
> On 06/27/2011 05:55 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
>> On 06/27/2011 05:58 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>>> We use 2.0.6.916 on official releng releases.
>>> I tried 9999 on my private tests because [..]
>>
>> To me that leaves the question who uses 9999 for serious stuff at all.
>> In case it's no one (which we should find out) we could trash that
>> branch and fully concentrate on calalyst_2.
>>
>> I guess that sounds a bit radical at first.  It doesn't have to be a
>> quick decision.  Also, version control allows us to bring it back if needed.
>>
>> Ideas on find out who is using 9999:
>>
>>  - Removing 9999 ebuild from the tree and see who's complaining
>>
>>  - Resetting branch master to nothing but a README announcing
>>    the possible death of that thread and a request to join
>>    this mailing list and speak up about it if there is need.
>>
>>  - Asking on one/some/all of gentoo-dev, gentoo-user, gentoo forums,
>>    planet gentoo.
>>
>> After such action I imagine a time window of 2 to 4 weeks to give people
>> a chance to react.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
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Sebastian Pipping | 4 Jul 2011 02:18
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Re: Migrating man page to asciidoc?

On 07/04/2011 02:10 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>> We use 2.0.6.916 on official releng releases.
>>>> I tried 9999 on my private tests because [..]
>>>
>>> To me that leaves the question who uses 9999 for serious stuff at all.
>>> In case it's no one (which we should find out) we could trash that
>>> branch and fully concentrate on calalyst_2.
>>>
>>> I guess that sounds a bit radical at first.  It doesn't have to be a
>>> quick decision.  Also, version control allows us to bring it back if needed.
>>>
>>> Ideas on find out who is using 9999:
>>>
>>>  - Removing 9999 ebuild from the tree and see who's complaining
>>>
>>>  - Resetting branch master to nothing but a README announcing
>>>    the possible death of that thread and a request to join
>>>    this mailing list and speak up about it if there is need.
>>>
>>>  - Asking on one/some/all of gentoo-dev, gentoo-user, gentoo forums,
>>>    planet gentoo.
>>>
>>> After such action I imagine a time window of 2 to 4 weeks to give people
>>> a chance to react.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can confirm that the build with the master branch fails as it doesn't
>>>> seem able to find the spec files or doesn't accept them - the official
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Sebastian Pipping | 4 Jul 2011 02:22
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[rfc] Deleting catalyst 3.x code (was Fwd: Re: Migrating man page to asciidoc?)

Second try as a new thread:

On 06/27/2011 05:58 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> We use 2.0.6.916 on official releng releases.
> I tried 9999 on my private tests because [..]

To me that leaves the question who uses 9999 for serious stuff at all.
In case it's no one (which we should find out) we could trash that
branch and fully concentrate on calalyst_2.

I guess that sounds a bit radical at first.  It doesn't have to be a
quick decision.  Also, version control allows us to bring it back if needed.

Ideas on find out who is using 9999:

 - Removing 9999 ebuild from the tree and see who's complaining

 - Resetting branch master to nothing but a README announcing
   the possible death of that thread and a request to join
   this mailing list and speak up about it if there is need.

 - Asking on one/some/all of gentoo-dev, gentoo-user, gentoo forums,
   planet gentoo.

After such action I imagine a time window of 2 to 4 weeks to give people
a chance to react.

What do you think?

> I can confirm that the build with the master branch fails as it doesn't
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Matt Turner | 4 Jul 2011 02:32
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Re: [rfc] Deleting catalyst 3.x code (was Fwd: Re: Migrating man page to asciidoc?)

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Sebastian Pipping <sping@...> wrote:
> Ideas on find out who is using 9999:
>
>  - Removing 9999 ebuild from the tree and see who's complaining

I actually use the -9999 ebuild with EGIT_BRANCH="catalyst_2", so I'd
prefer not to do this.

I would probably just ask if anyone is using catalyst3 through a few
mediums. I suspect that no one is.

In order to make any sort of decisions, we should probably know what
the significant changes in catalyst-3 are to begin with.

Matt

Sebastian Pipping | 4 Jul 2011 02:45
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Re: [rfc] Deleting catalyst 3.x code (was Fwd: Re: Migrating man page to asciidoc?)

On 07/04/2011 02:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Sebastian Pipping <sping@...> wrote:
>> Ideas on find out who is using 9999:
>>
>>  - Removing 9999 ebuild from the tree and see who's complaining
> 
> I actually use the -9999 ebuild with EGIT_BRANCH="catalyst_2", so I'd
> prefer not to do this.

To improve on that workaround please add a new live ebuild 2.9999.

Sebastian

Zachary Bedell | 6 Jul 2011 19:28
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Missing /usr/src in installcd-stage3-minimal

Greetings all,

I'm just beginning to play with Catalyst to create custom installcd images.  I've started with the Gentoo
releng spec files from svn://anonsvn.gentoo.org/releng/trunk/releases/weekly/specs/amd64.  I
managed to get through stage1-3 and installcd-stage1 without any trouble.  

Running installcd-stage2-minimal dies when trying to run Genkernel with "ln: failed to create symbolic
link `/usr/src/linux': No such file or directory".  I hacked the kmerge.sh script to drop to a shell right
after that happened and found that there was no /usr/src directory in the chroot.  Doing a `mkdir -p
/usr/src` right before the ln call, and everything seems to work out after that.

I'm assuming something probably went wrong in an earlier stage, but I don't know enough about Catalyst yet
to know quite where to look.

I can post spec files if they'd help, but I'm using stock from SVN with just some version number's changed
around.  Does anyone have a guess where I might look, or is there any chance this might be a bug in the
kmerge.sh script?  I'm using catalyst-2.0.6.916 at this point, but I may just give the -9999 build a try to
see if that fixed the issue.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Zac Bedell

Peter Stuge | 6 Jul 2011 20:10
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Re: Missing /usr/src in installcd-stage3-minimal

Zachary Bedell wrote:
> found that there was no /usr/src directory in the chroot

The latest stage3 also does not add udev to the sysinit runlevel.
Lost about an hour to that.

> I'm assuming something probably went wrong in an earlier stage,

Not neccessarily, think about who should create /usr/src. IMO it's
not at all really neccessary, it's just by (deprecated) convention
that there are kernel sources there.

> but I don't know enough about Catalyst yet to know quite where to
> look.

It has little to do with catalyst itself. In any case, if you make
sure that your livecd-stage1 includes kernel sources, then I think
you'll sidestep around the problem.

//Peter

Sebastian Pipping | 6 Jul 2011 20:14
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Re: Missing /usr/src in installcd-stage3-minimal

On 07/06/2011 07:28 PM, Zachary Bedell wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> I'm just beginning to play with Catalyst to create custom installcd
> images.  I've started with the Gentoo releng spec files from
> svn://anonsvn.gentoo.org/releng/trunk/releases/weekly/specs/amd64.  I
> managed to get through stage1-3 and installcd-stage1 without any
> trouble.
> 
> Running installcd-stage2-minimal dies when trying to run Genkernel
> with "ln: failed to create symbolic link `/usr/src/linux': No such
> file or directory".  I hacked the kmerge.sh script to drop to a shell
> right after that happened and found that there was no /usr/src
> directory in the chroot.  Doing a `mkdir -p /usr/src` right before
> the ln call, and everything seems to work out after that.
> 
> I'm assuming something probably went wrong in an earlier stage, but I
> don't know enough about Catalyst yet to know quite where to look.
> 
> I can post spec files if they'd help, but I'm using stock from SVN
> with just some version number's changed around.  Does anyone have a
> guess where I might look, or is there any chance this might be a bug
> in the kmerge.sh script?  I'm using catalyst-2.0.6.916 at this point,
> but I may just give the -9999 build a try to see if that fixed the
> issue.

Afaik the code in 9999 differs by more than just bugfixes.  Let me quote
from the -9999 ebuild:

  "The git master branch (what you get with this -9999 ebuild) for
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Sebastian Pipping | 6 Jul 2011 21:14
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Re: Missing /usr/src in installcd-stage3-minimal

On 07/06/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Zachary Bedell wrote:
>> found that there was no /usr/src directory in the chroot
> 
> The latest stage3 also does not add udev to the sysinit runlevel.
> Lost about an hour to that.

Now that you mention it: I ran into the same problem.  It was ~20
something hours wasted over here I guess before I found that Xorg didn't
find my graphics card because of udev not being started.

Best,

Sebastian


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