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Frank Peters | 9 Oct 19:45
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Shift + Fn Keys Suddenly Don't Work

Hello,

On an ordinary keyboard, the extended function keys, F13 to F24, should
be accessible as Shift + Fn, where Fn are the keys F1 to F12.

Well, up until a few days ago, the Shift+Fn combination was working as it
should.  Then suddenly, Shift+Fn stopped working correctly.  I noticed
it when using the Midnight Commander (MC) file manager where I extensively
use Shift+F5 and Shift+F6 to conveniently rename and copy files.
MC is a terminal program but the problem also shows up in some X programs
that use Shift+Fn combinations.

Because I have no need to closely monitor changes on my system I can't
actually pinpoint any new install that may be responsible.  My first
guess would be a new version of xorg-server-1.11.1 that was emerged
on October 2.

I need to know how I can debug this situation further.  Using xev
to record key presses gives the following output when using
Shift+F1:

KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x121, subw 0x0, time 6919279, (23,152), root:(463,411),
    state 0x0, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
    XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x121, subw 0x0, time 6921351, (23,152), root:(463,411),
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Frank Peters | 9 Oct 20:15
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Re: Shift + Fn Keys Suddenly Don't Work [Update]

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:45:07 -0400
Frank Peters <frank.peters <at> comcast.net> wrote:

> 
> Well, up until a few days ago, the Shift+Fn combination was working as it
> should.  Then suddenly, Shift+Fn stopped working correctly.
>

I found this report of the same problem:

http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=817

The culprit is the new keyboard-config-2.4.1, which I had installed
on October 5.  This version breaks the Shift+Fn keys.  Downgrading to
version 2.3 solves the problem.

Before filing a bug report with Gentoo, it would be good to have
a confirmation from someone with keyboard-config-2.4.1.

Frank Peters
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Nikos Chantziaras | 9 Oct 20:44
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Re: Shift + Fn Keys Suddenly Don't Work [Update]

On 10/09/2011 09:15 PM, Frank Peters wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:45:07 -0400
> Frank Peters<frank.peters <at> comcast.net>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, up until a few days ago, the Shift+Fn combination was working as it
>> should.  Then suddenly, Shift+Fn stopped working correctly.
>>
>
> I found this report of the same problem:
>
> http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=817
>
> The culprit is the new keyboard-config-2.4.1, which I had installed
> on October 5.  This version breaks the Shift+Fn keys.  Downgrading to
> version 2.3 solves the problem.
>
> Before filing a bug report with Gentoo, it would be good to have
> a confirmation from someone with keyboard-config-2.4.1.

Same problem here.  And downgrading to 2.3 fixes it.
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Frank Peters | 9 Oct 21:09
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Re: Re: Shift + Fn Keys Suddenly Don't Work [Update]

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:44:38 +0300
Nikos Chantziaras <realnc <at> arcor.de> wrote:

> 
> Same problem here.  And downgrading to 2.3 fixes it.
> 

Thanks.  I filed a bug report with Gentoo.

Frank Peters
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Mark Knecht | 9 Oct 21:13
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Re: Shift + Fn Keys Suddenly Don't Work

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Frank Peters <frank.peters <at> comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On an ordinary keyboard, the extended function keys, F13 to F24, should
> be accessible as Shift + Fn, where Fn are the keys F1 to F12.
>
> Well, up until a few days ago, the Shift+Fn combination was working as it
> should.  Then suddenly, Shift+Fn stopped working correctly.  I noticed
> it when using the Midnight Commander (MC) file manager where I extensively
> use Shift+F5 and Shift+F6 to conveniently rename and copy files.
> MC is a terminal program but the problem also shows up in some X programs
> that use Shift+Fn combinations.
>
> Because I have no need to closely monitor changes on my system I can't
> actually pinpoint any new install that may be responsible.  My first
> guess would be a new version of xorg-server-1.11.1 that was emerged
> on October 2.
>
> I need to know how I can debug this situation further.  Using xev
> to record key presses gives the following output when using
> Shift+F1:
>
> KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
>    root 0x121, subw 0x0, time 6919279, (23,152), root:(463,411),
>    state 0x0, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
>    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>    XFilterEvent returns: False
>
> KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
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Frank Peters | 9 Oct 22:20
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Re: Shift + Fn Keys Suddenly Don't Work

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:13:05 -0700
Mark Knecht <markknecht <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> 
>    I've never used the Shift-Function keys myself. Here is what I'm
> seeing here using xev to capture Shift-F1:
> 

Thanks for taking the time to test, but I may have posted a bit
prematurely again.  Further searching has revealed that the problem
is with the newest (and unstable in Gentoo) xkeyboard-config-2.4.1.
This package contains the configuration files for the X keyboards.

Hopefully, the next release will correct things, but otherwise
a downgrade to 2.3 will help if the problem affects you.  Most
users probably don't have much need for Shift-Fn.

Frank Peters
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