Re: NVidia Debian thread

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 10:13, David Bandel wrote:

> please re-read carefully what I said (are you and echo?)

No need to be snotty.  I wasn't sure what your point was, since either you 
were not being clear (yes, I skipped over some of what you wrote) or you were 
simply showing off and not contributing pertinent information.

> > telinit on Linux seems to (or did when I learned about it) more cleanly
> > change runlevels.  Perhaps that is no longer the case.
>
> If you RTFM and/or the source, you will see that calling init as
> telinit acts appropriately (as I said above).
>
> In all cases, "acts appropriately" as I stated in my initial message
> means that its behavior is different depending on $0.  Sorry I didn't
> go into greater detail for you.  Didn't think it necessary.

indeed.
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On Tuesday 30 January 2007 10:13, David Bandel wrote:

Re: NVidia Debian thread

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 13:16, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 11:29 -0600, C M Reinehr wrote:
> > 	I wouldn't say that it ignores run levels, just that it has a slightly
> > different way of organizing them (as it does many other facets of Linux).
> > Run level 0 = full stop, run level 1 = single user, run level 2 =
> > multi-user & run level 6 = reboot. IANAE but I think the only real
> > difference, here, is that using run levels of 3, 4 or 5 is left to the
> > discretion of the user. IIRC this is quite similar to COL except that COL
> > didn't start the X-server until run level 3 or 4, but I could be
> > mistaken.
>
> Is there an LSB stance on this?? I'm used to runlevel 3 being text mode
> and runlevel 5 being X and 6 for shutdown to reboot. Go figure. Ric

I believe that Ian would agree.
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On Tuesday 30 January 2007 13:16, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 11:29 -0600, C M Reinehr wrote:
> > 	I wouldn't say that it ignores run levels, just that it has a slightly
> > different way of organizing them (as it does many other facets of Linux).
> > Run level 0 = full stop, run level 1 = single user, run level 2 =

Re: Best hardware detection

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:25, Harry Giles wrote:
> I have a new HP Pavilion DV9000 I want to put Linux on, but it has
> issues with the keyboard detection when I try Mepis, Ubuntu, etc.  Also,
> it has a AMD Turion 64x2 processor, and an expanded keyboard with a
> built in num pad.
>
>  From all your experience, what distro handles hardware detection best?
>
> Also, under XP, where do I go to get a list of the installed hardware
> (wireless card, networking card, video, etc.)?

Hey Harry,

I'm running Kubuntu on my DV6000t.  It runs great, all the keys and everything 
are detected.  The only issue I have is that a HP/NVIDIA issue likes to crash 
X whenever I change the LCD brightness.  Oh, and the headphone jack only 
works properly with the latest version of Alsa (1.0.13 or something).  I'm 
not there yet, as I'm still running Edgy (6.10).  I have to wait until Feisty 
comes out for that version of Alsa to be included in the main distro.

Have fun!
Matt

ps.  How's the battery life?  I chose the dv6000t because I could get a 
12-cell battery.  It gives the laptop a little more of a hot-rod look that I 
prefer (raise rear end) but I get plenty of battery life.
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David: Re: NVidia Debian thread

Hey David,

I apologize.  This response does not convey the respect I have for you.  I 
didn't like being made the fool, but I need to control my fingers better.

Matt

On Wednesday 31 January 2007 20:47, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 January 2007 10:13, David Bandel wrote:
> > please re-read carefully what I said (are you and echo?)
>
> No need to be snotty.  I wasn't sure what your point was, since either you
> were not being clear (yes, I skipped over some of what you wrote) or you
> were simply showing off and not contributing pertinent information.
>
> > > telinit on Linux seems to (or did when I learned about it) more cleanly
> > > change runlevels.  Perhaps that is no longer the case.
> >
> > If you RTFM and/or the source, you will see that calling init as
> > telinit acts appropriately (as I said above).
> >
> > In all cases, "acts appropriately" as I stated in my initial message
> > means that its behavior is different depending on $0.  Sorry I didn't
> > go into greater detail for you.  Didn't think it necessary.
>
> indeed.

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All hail the mighty Llama!

To those of you who were not on IRC today,
I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper (6.10) on my multimedia box.  After a 
fairly painless upgrade, X did not start.  Since this is a Nvidia box with 
dual head, I ran it past Lonnie.

From my error messages, he indicated over and over that it was a bios issue.  
I couldn't believe it, since I just upgraded the box, I didn't add new 
hardware or anything.

Sure enough, upgrading my bios solved the problem.  Apparently I had a 
resource issue before but never actually ran into a problem until moving from 
the 2.6.12 kernel to 2.6.15.

Well met, Llama.  Thank you.
Matt
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To those of you who were not on IRC today,
I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper (6.10) on my multimedia box.  After a 
fairly painless upgrade, X did not start.  Since this is a Nvidia box with 
dual head, I ran it past Lonnie.

Re: NVidia Debian thread

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 19:48, Collins Richey wrote:
> Since debian has been around at least as long as RH, I find it lame
> and retarded to consider their approach to startup/shutdown/runningX
> to be any less "correct" than the RH approach.

Doesn't Debian's rl2 come from a SunOS past?
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On Tuesday 30 January 2007 19:48, Collins Richey wrote:
> Since debian has been around at least as long as RH, I find it lame
> and retarded to consider their approach to startup/shutdown/runningX
> to be any less "correct" than the RH approach.

Doesn't Debian's rl2 come from a SunOS past?
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Re: All hail the mighty Llama!

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> To those of you who were not on IRC today,
> I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper (6.10) on my multimedia box.  After a 
> fairly painless upgrade, X did not start.  Since this is a Nvidia box with 
> dual head, I ran it past Lonnie.
>
> From my error messages, he indicated over and over that it was a bios issue.  
> I couldn't believe it, since I just upgraded the box, I didn't add new 
> hardware or anything.
>
> Sure enough, upgrading my bios solved the problem.  Apparently I had a 
> resource issue before but never actually ran into a problem until moving from 
> the 2.6.12 kernel to 2.6.15.
>
> Well met, Llama.  Thank you.
> Matt
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just want to give this an Amen, as he has helped me on many occasions.  
We, the computer challenged, thank you oh Net Llama!

Harry G

Re: All hail the mighty Llama!

Harry Giles wrote:
> Matthew Carpenter wrote:
>   
>>
>> Well met, Llama.  Thank you.
>> Matt
>>   
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
>
> Just want to give this an Amen, as he has helped me on many occasions.  
> We, the computer challenged, thank you oh Net Llama!
>
>   
Sounds like he is becoming the Dali Net Llama (Boom Tish).

Re: All hail the mighty Llama!

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 17:12 +1100, James McDonald wrote:
> Harry Giles wrote:
> > Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> >   
> >>
> >> Well met, Llama.  Thank you.
> >> Matt
> >>   
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>     
> >
> > Just want to give this an Amen, as he has helped me on many occasions.  
> > We, the computer challenged, thank you oh Net Llama!
> >
> >   
> Sounds like he is becoming the Dali Net Llama (Boom Tish).
Nah, as merely the "International Man of Mystery" that he is, he has all
kinds of rabbit tricks in his bag:

1.) slides down high tension wires using a tube sock.
2.) disables hi-tech bombs using a digital pocket radio.
3.) jump starts diesel engines using a turkey baster and paperclip.
4.) codes in c++ by removing his shoes.
5.) escapes confinement using shoe laces, dental floss and a bed sheet.

... and fixes the occasional nvidia setup. 
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Re: All hail the mighty Llama!

On Thursday 01 February 2007 02:41, Ric Moore wrote:
> 5.) escapes confinement using shoe laces, dental floss and a bed sheet.

Now was that his tool list, or that which bound him?  If the latter, it sounds 
somewhat kinky.
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On Thursday 01 February 2007 02:41, Ric Moore wrote:
> 5.) escapes confinement using shoe laces, dental floss and a bed sheet.

Now was that his tool list, or that which bound him?  If the latter, it sounds 
somewhat kinky.
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