A. Khattri | 1 May 02:26 2006
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Re: Everybody's favorite Ubuntu quirks

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Net Llama! wrote:

> I think your skin is a bit too thin.  You used to be touchy like this
> for gentoo a while back, and now your radar is going up everytime
> someone isn't singing the praises of Ubuntu.

Yeah, that can get a bit tiresome...

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Dallam Wych | 1 May 03:32 2006

Re: Everybody's favorite Ubuntu quirks

On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0600, Collins Richey wrote:
> I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to imply. Is it a dig or just
> stating the obvious? It seems perfectly ok to me that Mark decided to
> finance his own distro. He liked certain things about Debian and
> rather obviously he thought certain things should be different. So, he
> put his money where his mouth is, and I have certainly benefitted from
> his choice.

First of all Collins, I want you to be aware of the fact that I
spent probably about an hour and a half writting and editing this
posts content. To address each point you address would require a
very lengthy reply.

To first address your paragraph above. The answer to your first 
question is that actually it is both. It's a dig from me to
Shuttleworth. It's also the obvious to most Debian users. It's
also perhaps enlightening to users of other distributions who
wonder just who is developing for Ubuntu.

Secondly, it's ok with me if Shuttleworth wanted to create his own
Debian derivative. What I have a problem with is that he (and his
millions) raided other opensource projects for developers. He
should have hired his own developers, it's made a lot of bad
feelings towards Ubuntu with a lot more people than just myself.

> I must be the only user on the planet who finds no problem with the
> sudo setup on Ubuntu.

No, but you're one of the very few I have heard from that don't
absolutely loathe this feature of Ubuntu.
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Collins Richey | 1 May 03:33 2006
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Re: Everybody's favorite Ubuntu quirks

On 4/30/06, A. Khattri <ajai <at> bway.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Net Llama! wrote:
>
> > I think your skin is a bit too thin.  You used to be touchy like this
> > for gentoo a while back, and now your radar is going up everytime
> > someone isn't singing the praises of Ubuntu.
>
> Yeah, that can get a bit tiresome...
>

I hope you read my previous reply on this topic. Once again, simply
stated, I have never maintained that everyone should sing the praises
of Ubuntu. I have stated that I am not fond of those who have an axe
to grind about any distro. I would take umbrage at sarcastic comments
about FCn or Gentoo or SuSE, etc., not just Ubuntu.

If someone doesn't like one of the named distros for technical
reasons, that's fine, but maligning the distro just because it happens
to be well financed by one individual just doesn't feel right.

>From these responses, it would appear that I'm not the only one with a
thin skin.

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Man-wai CHANG | 1 May 03:44 2006

Re: Everybody's favorite Ubuntu quirks

Collins Richey wrote:
> Musings From Dallam Wych as quoted from another thread
> Re: [ubuntu] changing default window manager to icewm
> 

Well, I hope to see Ubuntu taking a step forward by using version 
upgrade (like FC5) rather than backports.

Man-wai CHANG | 1 May 03:45 2006

Re: USB turntable for vinyl records

>> http://ion-audio.com/products/turntables/iTTUSB.html
> I'm puzzled.  Why would anybody buy such a thing if one has a sound card 
> and a turntable?

I could think of one reason: how durable those turntable are? :)

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Ken Moffat | 1 May 04:33 2006

Re: Everybody's favorite Ubuntu quirks

Man-wai CHANG wrote:

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> Well, I hope to see Ubuntu taking a step forward by using version
> upgrade (like FC5) rather than backports.
>

What does this mean? Does Ubuntu not have a new version every 6 months
or so? I thought you could just change the sources list to the new name
and upgrade to the new version. (Guessing, not sure, since I have only
used it for a short time  recently on my laptop.)

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Bill Campbell | 1 May 04:38 2006

Re: USB turntable for vinyl records

On Sun, Apr 30, 2006, Tony Alfrey wrote:
>Man-wai CHANG wrote:
>>In case you missed the announcement:
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>>http://ion-audio.com/products/turntables/iTTUSB.html
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>
>I'm puzzled.  Why would anybody buy such a thing if one has a sound card 
>and a turntable?

That might depend on the quality of the turntable.

I have my Thorens TD-124MK 2 connected to an ancient Dynakit preamp, which
then connects to an iMac to my Mac Mini.

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Man-wai CHANG | 1 May 04:51 2006

PHP problem

toylet <at> server:~$ php canton_update.php
1/13081 ¡u      [161.117]       add
2/13081 ¡v      [161.118]       add
3/13081*** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x084c63b8 ***
Aborted

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Collins Richey | 1 May 05:05 2006
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Ubuntu again

Excerpt from Dallam Wych

> On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0600, Collins Richey wrote:

>> I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to imply. Is it a dig or just
>> stating the obvious? It seems perfectly ok to me that Mark decided to
>> finance his own distro. He liked certain things about Debian and
>> rather obviously he thought certain things should be different. So, he
>> put his money where his mouth is, and I have certainly benefitted from
>> his choice.

> To first address your paragraph above. The answer to your first
> question is that actually it is both. It's a dig from me to
> Shuttleworth. It's also the obvious to most Debian users. It's
> also perhaps enlightening to users of other distributions who
> wonder just who is developing for Ubuntu.

This sounds like a riddle wrapped in an enigma. I'm not a Debian user,
so nothing is obvious to me.

> Secondly, it's ok with me if Shuttleworth wanted to create his own
> Debian derivative. What I have a problem with is that he (and his
> millions) raided other opensource projects for developers. He
> should have hired his own developers, it's made a lot of bad
> feelings towards Ubuntu with a lot more people than just myself.

Hmmm? yet more of an enigma.

I would love to hear more exact details about some of these innuendos.
Perhaps others on the list would be interested as well. Are the bad
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Collins Richey | 1 May 05:10 2006
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Re: PHP problem

On 4/30/06, Man-wai CHANG <mwchang <at> i-cable.com> wrote:
> toylet <at> server:~$ php canton_update.php
> 1/13081 ¡u      [161.117]       add
> 2/13081 ¡v      [161.118]       add
> 3/13081*** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x084c63b8 ***
> Aborted
>

Hmmm? It's broke.

Now if you want more of an answer that that:

1. what distro
2. what php version
3. what environment (Apache or batch PHP)
4. homegrown code or a specific application
5. which glibc/gcc/kernel version
6. etc.

And, just maybe, google for the error message.

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