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Laurent Laborde | 12 Dec 2010 02:00
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not sure if this device is supposed to work (147e:1001)

Friendly greetings !
I cloned and installed the latest git repository of libfprint and fprint-demo.

when i run the demo (as root or not), it say that no device could be found.
Here is what usb-device say about it :
T:  Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=02 Dev#=  4 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=147e ProdID=1001 Rev=00.43
S:  Manufacturer=TouchStrip
S:  Product=Fingerprint Sensor
C:  #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)

The laptop is a clevo W870.
can you tell me how i can make it work ? (or help to make it work ?)

thank you, have fun !

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Laurent Laborde | 12 Dec 2010 02:35
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Re: not sure if this device is supposed to work (147e:1001)

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Friendly greetings !
> I cloned and installed the latest git repository of libfprint and fprint-demo.
>
> when i run the demo (as root or not), it say that no device could be found.
> Here is what usb-device say about it :
> T:  Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=02 Dev#=  4 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
> D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
> P:  Vendor=147e ProdID=1001 Rev=00.43
> S:  Manufacturer=TouchStrip
> S:  Product=Fingerprint Sensor
> C:  #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA
> I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
>
> The laptop is a clevo W870.
> can you tell me how i can make it work ? (or help to make it work ?)
>
> thank you, have fun !

i found how to make it work using
https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fingerprint-gui \o/

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PRASANTH RAJAGOPAL | 17 Dec 2010 13:53
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support for URU 4500 reader?

I was looking at the unsupported list:

http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Unsupported_devices

I am interested in the URU 4500 reader. Has anyone worked on it yet? The page from DigitalPersona seems to highlight just this device:

http://www.digitalpersona.com/Biometrics/Hardware-Products/U-are-U-4500-Reader/4500-Reader/

If I were to create a driver for this device, where do I begin from? Should I hack the Linux driver from Vendor? However, I see the driver source code, not user sample codes.
Does anyone know the original USB drivers were hacked for fprint? Any hints or ideas?

http://www.digitalpersona.com/Biometrics/SDK-Products/One-Touch-for-Linux-SDK/One-Touch-for-Linux-Software-Development-Kit/

Thanks
Prasanth.


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Hugo "Bonstra" Grostabussiat | 18 Dec 2010 15:05
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Re: support for URU 4500 reader?

Hi,
> I was looking at the unsupported list:
> http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Unsupported_devices
Wiki is outdated and code moved to freedesktop.org. You can get the
latest version at :
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/
> I am interested in the URU 4500 reader. Has anyone worked on it yet?
This device is still not supported by libfprint. A few people were
working on it more than one year ago, but I don't know if they managed
to get the device working. For more details, refer to:
http://lists.reactivated.net/pipermail/fprint/2009-May/001184.html
> If I were to create a driver for this device, where do I begin from?
> Should I hack the Linux driver from Vendor?
If you own that reader, you can log traffic on the USB bus while you're
using it with the official driver. However, as image seems to be
encrypted, you will need to find a way to disable encryption first. As
URU 4500 seems to be similar to URU 4000, you can use code from the
uru4000 libfprint driver code as a start.
Another (more difficult and time-consuming) possibility would be do
clean room design (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design) and
disassemble the official driver, but in case you do so, you cannot
directly write code for libfprint, unless you want to run into legal
problems (see the aforementioned Wikipedia article).

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Rajagopal, Prasanth | 18 Dec 2010 16:47
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Re: support for URU 4500 reader?

Thanks.

Sounds like I really need to get on with USB protocol and extract from the analyzer results. Is reverse
engineering actually legal?

When I downloaded the Linux package, they seem to give the driver source code, but I don't find the user
examples. I also don't find a documentation that explains the way to communicate - for the USB host.
Perhaps, unless I pay I would never get that from Vendor, even if its Linux?

Two questions:

- Do people still use URU 4000? Perhaps I should try to get one (not sure if it's still available with
distributors, because Digitalpersona says its phased out)?

- What is the most relevant (in market, on availability) device that has the fprint driver available ported?

I contacted Atmel, they say that they discontinued product line long back. Upek is being taken over by
Authentec and Digitalpersona lists only one device.
Uhhmmm pretty confuse what to order...

BTW, the website http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/ doesn't open.

Thanks for any insights.

Regards
Prasanth.

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Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:35 PM
To: PRASANTH RAJAGOPAL; fprint <at> reactivated.net
Subject: Re: [fprint] support for URU 4500 reader?

Hi,
> I was looking at the unsupported list:
> http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Unsupported_devices
Wiki is outdated and code moved to freedesktop.org. You can get the
latest version at :
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/
> I am interested in the URU 4500 reader. Has anyone worked on it yet?
This device is still not supported by libfprint. A few people were
working on it more than one year ago, but I don't know if they managed
to get the device working. For more details, refer to:
http://lists.reactivated.net/pipermail/fprint/2009-May/001184.html
> If I were to create a driver for this device, where do I begin from?
> Should I hack the Linux driver from Vendor?
If you own that reader, you can log traffic on the USB bus while you're
using it with the official driver. However, as image seems to be
encrypted, you will need to find a way to disable encryption first. As
URU 4500 seems to be similar to URU 4000, you can use code from the
uru4000 libfprint driver code as a start.
Another (more difficult and time-consuming) possibility would be do
clean room design (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design) and
disassemble the official driver, but in case you do so, you cannot
directly write code for libfprint, unless you want to run into legal
problems (see the aforementioned Wikipedia article).

Regards.
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Rajagopal, Prasanth | 18 Dec 2010 17:09
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Re: support for URU 4500 reader?

That adds confidence – thanks!. I am hopeful that the device isn’t too old to procure from distributors..?

 

Prasanth.

 

From: Bruno Medeiros [mailto:brunojcm <at> gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:24 PM
To: Rajagopal, Prasanth
Cc: fprint <at> reactivated.net; Hugo Bonstra Grostabussiat
Subject: Re: [fprint] support for URU 4500 reader?

 

I use URU 4000 perfectly with lfprint.

BrunoJCM

Em 18/12/2010 13:50, "Rajagopal, Prasanth" <Prasanth.Rajagopal <at> analog.com>escreveu:

Thanks.

Sounds like I really need to get on with USB protocol and extract from the analyzer results. Is reverse engineering actually legal?

When I downloaded the Linux package, they seem to give the driver source code, but I don't find the user examples. I also don't find a documentation that explains the way to communicate - for the USB host. Perhaps, unless I pay I would never get that from Vendor, even if its Linux?

Two questions:

- Do people still use URU 4000? Perhaps I should try to get one (not sure if it's still available with distributors, because Digitalpersona says its phased out)?

- What is the most relevant (in market, on availability) device that has the fprint driver available ported?

I contacted Atmel, they say that they discontinued product line long back. Upek is being taken over by Authentec and Digitalpersona lists only one device.
Uhhmmm pretty confuse what to order...

BTW, the website http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/ doesn't open.

Thanks for any insights.

Regards
Prasanth.


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PRASANTH RAJAGOPAL | 18 Dec 2010 18:20
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Re: support for URU 4500 reader?

Has anybody used the Eikon Reader from Upek? That still seems to be highlighted on Upek web. Since I am looking for standalone device, perhaps one thing to know is what Touchstrip Sensor is supported by fprint. The latest ones in market might be totally newer Sensors

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Rajagopal, Prasanth <Prasanth.Rajagopal <at> analog.com> wrote:

That adds confidence – thanks!. I am hopeful that the device isn’t too old to procure from distributors..?

 

Prasanth.

 

From: Bruno Medeiros [mailto:brunojcm <at> gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:24 PM
To: Rajagopal, Prasanth
Cc: fprint <at> reactivated.net; Hugo Bonstra Grostabussiat


Subject: Re: [fprint] support for URU 4500 reader?

 

I use URU 4000 perfectly with lfprint.

BrunoJCM

Em 18/12/2010 13:50, "Rajagopal, Prasanth" <Prasanth.Rajagopal <at> analog.com>escreveu:



Thanks.

Sounds like I really need to get on with USB protocol and extract from the analyzer results. Is reverse engineering actually legal?

When I downloaded the Linux package, they seem to give the driver source code, but I don't find the user examples. I also don't find a documentation that explains the way to communicate - for the USB host. Perhaps, unless I pay I would never get that from Vendor, even if its Linux?

Two questions:

- Do people still use URU 4000? Perhaps I should try to get one (not sure if it's still available with distributors, because Digitalpersona says its phased out)?

- What is the most relevant (in market, on availability) device that has the fprint driver available ported?

I contacted Atmel, they say that they discontinued product line long back. Upek is being taken over by Authentec and Digitalpersona lists only one device.
Uhhmmm pretty confuse what to order...

BTW, the website http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/ doesn't open.

Thanks for any insights.

Regards
Prasanth.


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PRASANTH RAJAGOPAL | 18 Dec 2010 19:24
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Fwd: support for URU 4500 reader?

Thanks, that adds another one to my list.

Hugo, do you know which one is Eikon 2 from this latest product list? Could it be Eikon TCRD4CA1H6A0? That is listed as the original Eikon.

Another webpage

Regards
Prasanth.


On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Hugo "Bonstra" Grostabussiat <dw23.devel <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Le 18/12/2010 18:20, PRASANTH RAJAGOPAL a écrit :
> Has anybody used the Eikon Reader from Upek? That still seems to be
> highlighted on Upek web. Since I am looking for standalone device,
> perhaps one thing to know is what Touchstrip Sensor is supported by
> fprint. The latest ones in market might be totally newer Sensors
Eikon 2 should work well with libfprint.


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Bruno Medeiros | 18 Dec 2010 16:53
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Re: support for URU 4500 reader?

I use URU 4000 perfectly with lfprint.

BrunoJCM

Em 18/12/2010 13:50, "Rajagopal, Prasanth" <Prasanth.Rajagopal <at> analog.com>escreveu:

Thanks.

Sounds like I really need to get on with USB protocol and extract from the analyzer results. Is reverse engineering actually legal?

When I downloaded the Linux package, they seem to give the driver source code, but I don't find the user examples. I also don't find a documentation that explains the way to communicate - for the USB host. Perhaps, unless I pay I would never get that from Vendor, even if its Linux?

Two questions:

- Do people still use URU 4000? Perhaps I should try to get one (not sure if it's still available with distributors, because Digitalpersona says its phased out)?

- What is the most relevant (in market, on availability) device that has the fprint driver available ported?

I contacted Atmel, they say that they discontinued product line long back. Upek is being taken over by Authentec and Digitalpersona lists only one device.
Uhhmmm pretty confuse what to order...

BTW, the website http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/ doesn't open.

Thanks for any insights.

Regards
Prasanth.


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Hugo "Bonstra" Grostabussiat | 19 Dec 2010 12:01
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Re: Fwd: support for URU 4500 reader?

On 12/18/2010 19:24, PRASANTH RAJAGOPAL wrote:
> Thanks, that adds another one to my list.
>
> Hugo, do you know which one is Eikon 2 from this latest product list?
> Could it be Eikon TCRD4CA1H6A0? That is listed as the original Eikon.
TCRD4C is supported by upeke2 driver. That should be ok.

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