Anyone have any idea of how to program the hardware, or any idea which of the existing drivers it may or may not be closest to programatically? It's what's on my new T400 that just arrived. Bus 002 Device 004: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. john.c -- -- John Clemens http://www.deater.net/john john at deater.net "I Hate Quotes" -- Samuel L. Clemens
John Clemens wrote: > Anyone have any idea of how to program the hardware, or any idea which > of the existing drivers it may or may not be closest to programatically? > > It's what's on my new T400 that just arrived. > > Bus 002 Device 004: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. First I've heard of it, thanks for the report. According to the authentec website it performs fingerprint matching in hardware. Daniel
That doesn't sound good, have anyone (John?) tried to ask AuthenTec (or
possibly lenovo) for a linux driver or even hardware specifications that
could be used for writing a driver? I know that it is not probable but
why not try the easiest way first.
According to the specs, it looks like upekts, with hardware matching
features and probably optional image output ("Supports 3rd Party Matchers").
Pavel
PS: I just hope that "SuSe certified" laptop (HP 6730b) will have a
fprint supported device :)
Daniel Drake wrote:
> John Clemens wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any idea of how to program the hardware, or any idea which
>> of the existing drivers it may or may not be closest to programatically?
>>
>> It's what's on my new T400 that just arrived.
>>
>> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc.
>>
>
> First I've heard of it, thanks for the report. According to the
> authentec website it performs fingerprint matching in hardware.
>
> Daniel
>
> _______________________________________________
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On 3 Sep 2008, at 08:45, Pavel Herrmann wrote:
> That doesn't sound good, have anyone (John?) tried to ask AuthenTec
> (or
> possibly lenovo) for a linux driver or even hardware specifications
> that
> could be used for writing a driver? I know that it is not probable but
> why not try the easiest way first.
>
Someone should try, but in the past I have tried to gets specs and
drivers for devices their website claimed *had* Linux support (the
AES1610) and met with a resounding wall of "No", even though this was
a commercial venture and my client was perfectly prepared to do this
under an NDA. My overall impression is that you have to be an OEM
with a direct business relationship with them to get any joy :(
> According to the specs, it looks like upekts, with hardware matching
> features and probably optional image output ("Supports 3rd Party
> Matchers").
Authentec devices mostly support image output, right?
>
> Pavel
>
> PS: I just hope that "SuSe certified" laptop (HP 6730b) will have a
> fprint supported device :)
>
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On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 08:45 +0200, Pavel Herrmann wrote: > That doesn't sound good, have anyone (John?) tried to ask AuthenTec (or > possibly lenovo) for a linux driver or even hardware specifications that > could be used for writing a driver? I know that it is not probable but > why not try the easiest way first. There's no harm in trying. I doubt I'll get a response, but we'll see. Who knows, we might get lucky. Note I'm going on vacation tomorrow through sunday and (thankfully) won't be near email, so no answer in the next few days doesn't necessarily mean defeat. I guess the way to reverse engineer these things is to boot up windows and use some sort of usb snooper? Can qemu/KVM be used instead? When I get back I'll take a crack at it. Any pointers would be appreciated. john.c -- -- John Clemens http://www.deater.net/john john at deater.net "I Hate Quotes" -- Samuel L. Clemens
Hi If both AuthenTec and lenovo refuse to provide driver, you would have to sniff the USB traffic on windows. Vmware is able to forward USB devices into virtual OS, don't know about others, so you don't have to have windows on disk and can have linux booted. There were some links on fprint bugtracker, that could lead you to the right tools for the job. Pavel John Clemens wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 08:45 +0200, Pavel Herrmann wrote: > >> That doesn't sound good, have anyone (John?) tried to ask AuthenTec (or >> possibly lenovo) for a linux driver or even hardware specifications that >> could be used for writing a driver? I know that it is not probable but >> why not try the easiest way first. >> > > There's no harm in trying. I doubt I'll get a response, but we'll see. > Who knows, we might get lucky. Note I'm going on vacation tomorrow > through sunday and (thankfully) won't be near email, so no answer in the > next few days doesn't necessarily mean defeat. > > I guess the way to reverse engineer these things is to boot up windows > and use some sort of usb snooper? Can qemu/KVM be used instead? When I > get back I'll take a crack at it. Any pointers would be appreciated. > > john.c(Continue reading)
Hi If both AuthenTec and lenovo refuse to provide driver, you would have to sniff the USB traffic on windows. Vmware is able to forward USB devices into virtual OS, don't know about others, so you don't have to have windows on disk and can have linux booted. There were some links on fprint bugtracker, that could lead you to the right tools for the job. Pavel John Clemens wrote:On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 08:45 +0200, Pavel Herrmann wrote:_______________________________________________ fprint mailing list fprint <at> reactivated.net http://lists.reactivated.net/mailman/listinfo/fprintThat doesn't sound good, have anyone (John?) tried to ask AuthenTec (or possibly lenovo) for a linux driver or even hardware specifications that could be used for writing a driver? I know that it is not probable but why not try the easiest way first.There's no harm in trying. I doubt I'll get a response, but we'll see. Who knows, we might get lucky. Note I'm going on vacation tomorrow through sunday and (thankfully) won't be near email, so no answer in the next few days doesn't necessarily mean defeat. I guess the way to reverse engineer these things is to boot up windows and use some sort of usb snooper? Can qemu/KVM be used instead? When I get back I'll take a crack at it. Any pointers would be appreciated. john.c
_______________________________________________ fprint mailing list fprint <at> reactivated.net http://lists.reactivated.net/mailman/listinfo/fprint
And now, I am really angry... HP quickspecs says that the fingerprint reader is 192 x 16 Pixels (and states that there is no warranty at the end), AuthenTec says aes2810 is 192x8 pixels and guess what, the laptop has 08ff:2810 device great another one to aes2810 driver effort Pavel Herrmann wrote: > > PS: I just hope that "SuSe certified" laptop (HP 6730b) will have a > fprint supported device :) >
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Pavel Herrmann wrote: > That doesn't sound good, have anyone (John?) tried to ask AuthenTec (or > possibly lenovo) for a linux driver or even hardware specifications that > could be used for writing a driver? I know that it is not probable but why > not try the easiest way first. > No Luck from AuthenTec. On the bright side I seemed to get a response who took the request seriously, and responded intelligently. Basically they only give out specs under mutual NDA, and while they understand the "growing interest in Linux", they will only work with a direct customer of theirs. Haven't tried lenovo, as there doesn't seem to me a simple tech support email, it looks liek I'd have to open a trouble ticket, which is waay overkill foor this. Plus the odds are very very low. In short, we're on our own. john.c -- -- John Clemens http://www.deater.net/john john at deater.net "I Hate Quotes" -- Samuel L. Clemens
On 5 Sep 2008, at 07:50, John Clemens wrote: >> > No Luck from AuthenTec. On the bright side I seemed to get a > response who > took the request seriously, and responded intelligently. Basically > they > only give out specs under mutual NDA, and while they understand the > "growing interest in Linux", they will only work with a direct > customer of > theirs. Nice that they actually spoke to you, but very much the result I would have expected. > > Haven't tried lenovo, as there doesn't seem to me a simple tech > support > email, it looks liek I'd have to open a trouble ticket, which is waay > overkill foor this. Plus the odds are very very low. > Well, Lenovo will have signed the NDA with Authentec so they will be legally bound not to tell you any thing useful anyway. > In short, we're on our own. It was ever so. -- -- Geoffrey Teale Software and Technology Consultant, München tealeg <at> member.fsf.org
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