Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45705/#post491776

You guys need to see this.  It might seem off topic but it isn't and 
worth a look see.

Ruben

Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir (ruben <at> mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45705/#post491776
> 
> You guys need to see this.  It might seem off topic but it isn't and 
> worth a look see.

Why do we need to look at it?  What is it?  How does it relate?

Please look up the word "context" in your dictionary.

Happy new year (same old Ruben...).

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Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 03:26 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir (ruben <at> mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> > http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45705/#post491776
> > 
> > You guys need to see this.  It might seem off topic but it isn't and 
> > worth a look see.
> 
> Why do we need to look at it?  What is it?  How does it relate?
> 
> Please look up the word "context" in your dictionary.

This is one of my pet peeves as well. I learned it from Karsten as
"KFC".

KFC == Karsten F**king Context

I sometimes use it twice a day saying "KFC" to the people I work with,
as I'm one of those people everyone goes to. I have to have context to
answer the question many people just ask questions out of the blue.

The CTO made ground rules when talking to *anyone* called the "15 minute
rule" which includes KFC:

If you are stuck for 15 minutes on something, ask someone, but collect
context and detail, then ask the question. It makes the session much
shorter and actually prevents some of the sessions from happening,
because of the collection of context and detail many time *ANSWER* the
question itself.

So... I say to Ruben... KFC?

Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 03:26:20AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir (ruben <at> mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> > http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45705/#post491776
> > You guys need to see this.  It might seem off topic but it isn't and 
> > worth a look see.
> 
> Why do we need to look at it?  What is it?  How does it relate?
> 

Perhaps the on-topic context was the the reaction of the Forum moderator
(and others) in their comments about the posting.  All overwhelmingly
positive, seemingly related to the tiny footnote at the bottom of the two
posted photos which read:

"The software used to build this exhibit were digikam-0.9.4-52.1,
gimp-2.6.3-1.1, ufraw-0.13-45.1, MozillaFirefox-3.0.5-2.2, and
OpenSuse 11.0 x86_64 (kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default)."

Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Nicely done, and with a good plug.
>
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
>   
>> http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45705/#post491776
>>
>> You guys need to see this.  It might seem off topic but it isn't and 
>> worth a look see.
>>
>> Ruben
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it can always use another push :)

Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

jkinz <at> kinz.org wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 03:26:20AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>   
>> on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir (ruben <at> mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
>>     
>>> http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45705/#post491776
>>> You guys need to see this.  It might seem off topic but it isn't and 
>>> worth a look see.
>>>       
>> Why do we need to look at it?  What is it?  How does it relate?
>>
>>     
>
> Perhaps the on-topic context was the the reaction of the Forum moderator
> (and others) in their comments about the posting.  All overwhelmingly
> positive, seemingly related to the tiny footnote at the bottom of the two
> posted photos which read:
>
> "The software used to build this exhibit were digikam-0.9.4-52.1,
> gimp-2.6.3-1.1, ufraw-0.13-45.1, MozillaFirefox-3.0.5-2.2, and
> OpenSuse 11.0 x86_64 (kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default)."
>
>   

That might be it :)

Same ole Ruben
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Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

jkinz <at> kinz.org writes:

> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 03:26:20AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir (ruben <at> mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> > > You guys need to see this. It might seem off topic but it isn't
> > > and worth a look see.
> > 
> > Why do we need to look at it?  What is it?  How does it relate?
> 
> Perhaps [speculation about why the link is on-topic]

So all prospective readers have to actually visit the link, read the
entire thing, and then try to guess that something rather peripheral
*might* be somehow on-topic, but there is no hint of that in the
original post here.

Until Ruben learns to provide *in the original posting here* answers
to the KFC questions, I remain calmly unmoved to bother following any
such links.

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Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

Ben Finney wrote:
> jkinz <at> kinz.org writes:
>
>   
>> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 03:26:20AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>>     
>>> on Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:26:37AM -0500, Ruben Safir (ruben <at> mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
>>>       
>>>> You guys need to see this. It might seem off topic but it isn't
>>>> and worth a look see.
>>>>         
>>> Why do we need to look at it?  What is it?  How does it relate?
>>>       
>> Perhaps [speculation about why the link is on-topic]
>>     
>
> So all prospective readers have to actually visit the link, read the
> entire thing, and then try to guess that something rather peripheral
> *might* be somehow on-topic, but there is no hint of that in the
> original post here.
>
> Until Ruben learns to provide *in the original posting here* answers
> to the KFC questions, I remain calmly unmoved to bother following any
> such links.
>
>   

your loss kiddo.   Really...

Re: Spreading Free Software through tangential activities

Greg Folkert:
> I sometimes use it twice a day saying "KFC" to the people I work with,
> as I'm one of those people everyone goes to. I have to have context to
> answer the question many people just ask questions out of the blue.

Rick Moen taught me the technique of responding to incomprehensible
requests by smiling knowingly and asking the querent to "Tell me a
story!"

[Grumblingly adding 'querent' to vim's spell-checking with zg]

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git and a sysadmin book

I really enjoyed the short thread about "long
round-trip-delays of getting a patch applied" and the
proposed solution, which turns out to be just to use
a DVCS.

It seems like there's an opportunity to apply
distributed revision control thinking to computer
books, too.  A lot of Linux books seem to have a
"on the one hand, on the other hand" approach,
which makes things hard on the new administrator,
just starting to set up a mixed Linux/legacy network.
You always end up with an untested combination of
stuff instead of the solid way that an experienced
administrator would have set things up.

What the world needs is (working title) The
Opinionated Guide to Linux System Administration.
(hey, if opinionated software is good, opinionated
documentation and administration should be good too.)
The official version would be the much-tested choices
of a small group of co-authors, and that would get
frozen, checked, and turned into the printed book
every so often -- but downstream users who really
wanted Exim instead of Postfix or something would
be free to fork.  (In the long run, there might end
up being many site-specific versions of the book,
from which the core could pick changes.)  Focus on a
small office network to start with -- the kind that
seems to be the hardest for Linux to catch on in.