NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 3 July 2007 NYLUG Python Workshop

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  what="official NYLUG announcement">

 From: Ron Guerin <info <at> nylug.org>
 To: NYLUG Announcements <nylug-announce <at> nylug.org>
 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:00:01 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Upcoming Events and podcasts,
 	RSVP open for July General Meeting

 NYLUG Meeting Podcasts:
 -----------------------
 Our podcasts are now linked to from the past meetings section of our web
 site.  The most recent meeting's podcast will also be linked to from our
 home page just under the title of the meeting, until we change the page
 for the next meeting's announcement.

 The podcast for June is now available at:
 http://archive.org/details/J.PaulReedOnReleasingSoftwareAtScaleKeepingFirefoxRunningOn
 (or http://tighturl.com/5zi )

 Our previous podcasts can be found on the meeting pages at:
 http://nylug.org/meetings

 The next NYLUG Python Workshop is this Tuesday:
 -----------------------------------------------
  Date & Time: Tuesday, July 3rd 2007 at 6:00PM-8:00pm
     Location: The Hudson Library at 66 Leroy St.
               No RSVP required
 Mailing List: http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/nylug-workshop
        Topic: We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at

NYC LOCAL: Thursday 5 July 2007 NYCBUG: Isaac Levy on the Real Unix Tradition

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   Nearby subway service includes the 4/5 (Wall St), the 2/3 (Wall
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 July 05, 2007

 Isaac `Ike` Levy on the Real Unix Tradition

 *Please note that we moved the meeting from Wednesday, July 4 to
 Thursday, July 5*

 6:30pm, Suspenders Restaurant
 http://www.suspendersbar.com/location.php

 "The Real Unix Tradition"

 !!Please wear your your best shirt, a group photo-op will follow this
 month`s lecture!!

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And with off-list hellos from Brad Willson (Bradley J. Willson), Con Zymaris, and onlist from Stefane
Fermigier, Greg Pryzby & Ed Weinberg, the list closes after this post.

Thanks, all.

And thankyou, Stefane, for letting us know we made a difference, even with this list.  A little bit of

So, now that some of the dust has settled...

How has the "device drivers written for 'free' offer" been doing?

I am asking only because we really haven't seen much news about it, nor
have we been inundated with the progress. I am anxious to see how things
are going, but the usual locations for info are not as forth coming or
updated enough.

Of course I haven't really looked at Greg's (K-H that is) blog site
other than for the neat kernel history stuffs, I've noticed a distinct
lack of info about the drivers project(s).

On another note though, it appears Microsoft is in complete denial that
the vouchers they distributed are all about. 

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/misc/07-05statement.mspx

There are also much discussion at the drinking fountain(s) about what
the GPLv3 actually means for us as a bunch of hobbyist developers.
Obviously we can't even make something work right without using SCOg's
(Caldera, New SCO, Yarro's lackeys, etc...) Precious IP... and now 235
(that number pulled from /dev/ass it appears) Patents Microsoft "owns."

I am just stirring the pot a bit, to see if it is soup yet, you see the
rock at the bottom sure is magical.
--

-- 
greg, greg <at> gregfolkert.net
PGP key: 1024D/B524687C  2003-08-05
Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0  2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74  E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0
Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA  29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2

NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 11 July 2007 NYLUG: Zach Smith on Or All the Seas with von Neumann Oysters

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 From: John Bacall <info <at> nylug.org>
 To: NYLUG Announcements <nylug-announce <at> nylug.org>
 Date: Thu,  5 Jul 2007 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Wednesday 11 July General Meeting Presents:
 	Zach Smith -on- Open Source Manufacturing and RepRap

                   Open Source Manufacturing and RepRap

    This Wednesday 11 July meeting is refreshingly unique. A project with
    goals extraordinary. Simply, the bootstrapping of objects by other
    objects. A thing making another thing, or its own thing. =)

    RepRap is an open source project to create a self replicating 3D
    printing machine. With this machine the goal is to one day be able to
    automatically create a variety of real objects, including a copy of
    the machine itself. This technology is the core of something our
    speaker, Zach Smith likes to call open source manufacturing. The way
    it works is that you design an object using software, and then the
    machine takes that design and turns it into a finished product. You
    can then choose to share your virtual object with anyone in the
    world.

    The first version of the machine is currently under development, but
    Zach Smith and the rest of the RepRap Project are very close to
    finished. Basically a Cartesian Robot, a 3D positioning system, moves
    a print head across a build surface. The print head is a
    thermoplastic extruder. A custom-built, juiced up hot glue gun. It

Re: So, now that some of the dust has settled...

Quoting Greg Folkert (greg <at> gregfolkert.net):

> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/misc/07-05statement.mspx
[...]
> I am just stirring the pot a bit....

Here's a turnip.
http://lwn.net/Articles/240935/

Re: Remember Reply-to munging? Whatever happened to that?

begin Teh Entar-Nick quotation of Thu, May 17, 2007 at 12:39:08AM +0100:

> http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
> > A long time ago, Chip Rosenthal wrote a fine document entitled
> > ‘Reply-To’ Munging Considered Harmful.
> [...]
> > In 2000 (or maybe earlier), Simon Hill wrote a response called
> > Reply-To Munging Considered Useful, which is frequently offered as a
> > rebuttal to Chip’s document in online debates.
> [...]
> > People still using these two documents to debate the issue are wasting
> > everybody’s time. The issue was definitively settled in 2001, and Chip
> > won.

Mailman died off silently again.  Setting up a cron
job to kick it nightly unless anyone has any better
ideas.

    dmarti <at> allium:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mailman stop
    Stopping Mailman master qrunner: mailmanctlNo child with pid: 387
    [Errno 3] No such process
    Stale pid file removed.
    .
    dmarti <at> allium:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mailman start
    Starting Mailman master qrunner: mailmanctl.

--

-- 
Don Marti                    
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
dmarti <at> zgp.org

Re: Microsoft is now quoting numbers of infringements.

Timothy Tuck quoting CNN:
> But he does break down the total number allegedly violated - 235 -
> into categories. He says that the Linux kernel - the deepest layer of
> the free operating system, which interacts most directly with the
> computer hardware - violates 42 Microsoft patents. The Linux graphical
> user interfaces - essentially, the way design elements like menus and
> toolbars are set up - run afoul of another 65, he claims. The Open
> Office suite of programs, which is analogous to Microsoft Office,
> infringes 45 more. E-mail programs infringe 15, while other assorted
> FOSS programs allegedly transgress 68.

Somewhere around here I have a list of 205 known Communists in the State
department.  Maybe they'd like a copy.

--

-- 
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the audience will yell "USERSPACE!"  -- Sean Q. Neakums     nick <at> zork.net

Re: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 12:59 -0400, Modus Operandi wrote:
[snip stuff]

How dare you infringe on one of my alternate "public" fingerprints for
my PGPPGPGPPGGPPGPG Key!

Yes, I've been asked to remove them. But they were nice about it when I
explained that they were "weaker" sub-keys to my primary.

No, you don't have to see if they work. I'll just have to send you the
resulting 2-7GB decrypted message, which will be in avi (Xvid encoded)
format at 640x480 resolution.

But then you'd have to use something other than Mutt to read it. So,
just forget about using my sub-keys for anything important.
--

-- 
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PGP key: 1024D/B524687C  2003-08-05
Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0  2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74  E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0
Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA  29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2

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Re: Debian VPS?

On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 11:43 -0700, Don Marti wrote:
> I'm looking for a low-cost but basically reliable
> virtual private server on which to run Debian.
> That's about it -- nothing fancy.  I'm planning to put
> RT, some cron jobs, and possibly Mailman on the box,
> and don't anticipate much traffic.
> 
> So far I have looked at:
> 
>   http://www.tektonic.net/vds.php?op=budget_plans
> 
>   http://linode.com/products/linodes.cfm
> 
> Anyone have recent experience with these or other
> VPS companies?  Suggestions or pointers welcome.

Going back through things... I've seen some first hand experience with
Slicehost.

	http://www.slicehost.com/

It seems they do very well about "over selling", depending on memory and
slice sizing a single real machine has between 7 and 24 Virtual Private
servers. A friend of mine has his stuff there and he has 2 VPS, one $70
1024slice and a $20 256slice. He is really happy, versus being on
Keenspot and killing his shared machine there, or being killed there.

And the FAQ answers a lot of questions many have:

	http://www.slicehost.com/faq