http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/Aaron+Sherman.html

The URL mentioned in my subject bothers me a bit, so I thought I'd bring
it up to the list. Making my messages to this list public is fine, but
doing so in such a way that distorts my contribution is something that
I'd prefer if whoever set this up could avoid (I'm sure you didn't mean
it that way).

The page begins:

        Aaron Sherman
        I hate you, Greg

No context. No indication of why I hate Greg (I don't).

The page goes on to list several subjects of threads along with their
contributors and a short excerpt. The excerpts, however, are also not
mine.

Searching for my name via Google (yeah, I googled myself, go fig) yields
this page as the 7th hit, and given that it's not really about anything
that I said or did, could someone please just add a comment to the page
(presumably by modifying the indexing software in question) to indicate
that this is an index of threads that I contributed to, not a list of
excerpts from my postings?

Thank you very much for your time in advance.

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http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/Aaron+Sherman.html

Quoting Aaron Sherman (ajs <at> ajs.com):

> The URL mentioned in my subject bothers me a bit, so I thought I'd bring
> it up to the list.

You don't actually dislike the _URL_.  Funny how some computerists act
like they don't know how to dereference, eh?

The _actual_ nub of the matter is that you have a personal problem:

> Searching for my name via Google (yeah, I googled myself, go fig)
> yields this page as the 7th hit [...]

The fact that I'm not very sympathetic might be explained by the fact
that, as you can verify by ego-searching _my_ name, "Rick Moen is an
idiot".  Moving right along, though, your complaint states:

> The page begins:
> 
>         Aaron Sherman
>         I hate you, Greg
> 
> No context. 

Er, no sir.  Context:  Do you see that funny-looking highlighting of 
the phrase "I hate you, Greg"?  It's called a hyperlink.  Select it in
your Web browser, and it takes you to
http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/20051026115239.GZ2249 <at> leitl.org.html,
which takes you to the complete thread, presented in a
thread-highlighted format that Don created in an effort to improve on

http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/Aaron+Sherman.html

Quoting Aaron Sherman (ajs <at> ajs.com):

> Fine then.  Would you mind, please, removing my name from comments
> that I did not make?  Thanks!

Would *I* mind?  Not in the least.  What specific comments on any of
_my_ Web sites do you have in mind?

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Speaking of HTML archives...

Anyone looking for work?

-=snip=-

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:18:44 +0100
From: Ganoksin <ganoksin <at> gmail.com>
To: mhonarc-users <at> mhonarc.org
Subject: Threads spanning across multiple time periods archives

Hello

We are looking for a solution (possible custom work) to link together
threads that span across multiple time periods (monthly archives) to
ease navigation and increase the mail archive functionality.

please contact me on or off list with and ideas or offers
thanks

-=snip=-

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http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/Aaron+Sherman.html

begin Aaron Sherman quotation of Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 05:14:57PM -0500:

> Searching for my name via Google (yeah, I googled myself, go fig) yields
> this page as the 7th hit, and given that it's not really about anything
> that I said or did, could someone please just add a comment to the page
> (presumably by modifying the indexing software in question) to indicate
> that this is an index of threads that I contributed to, not a list of
> excerpts from my postings?

That's a good idea, but I don't want to put too
much text on any one archive page.  Since these
pages contain basically only people's names and a
few keyword-dense sentences from the beginnings of
threads, they're helpful for searching.  If I put
a bunch of malarkey on the page, it would probably
make it vanish from the top results.

Maybe the best thing to do would be to put the
original poster's name in front of the text excerpt
from the beginning of the thread, like this:

Aaron Sherman:  Searching for my name via Google
(yeah, I googled myself, go fig)

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Re: Save Chip!

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:39:26PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Chip Salzenberg, sometime contributor to this list, though I believe he
> may have other FS credentials[1] is currently under legal action from
> his (presumably former) employer, one Health Marketing Science of King
> of Prussia, PA.
> 
> The story's on Slashdot:
> 
>     http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/30/1854228
> 
>     Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided
>     The Courts | Posted by jamie on 03:30 PM June 30th, 2005
>     from the whistleblower dept.

What's disappointing is that I sent money, ordered several T-shirts, and
never heard back from Chip or the company that was supposed to send the
thank you T-shirts... (which I never received of course)
I Emailed Chip later at chip <at> pobox.com, but I never heard back either.

This is quite disappointing :(

Marc
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Re: Save Chip!

On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:41:17AM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 07:26:42PM +0100, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > What's disappointing is that I sent money, ordered several T-shirts, and
> > never heard back from Chip or the company that was supposed to send the
> > thank you T-shirts... (which I never received of course)
> 
> Jeepers, I followed up with them!
> 
> I'm sorry Marc.  I'll get the money back or shirts immediately.

I thought you had disappeared, thanks for getting back to me

Marc
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Re: IANAL, TINLA

begin Mr. Bad quotation of Wed, May 26, 2004 at 01:48:00PM -0400:

> Anyone who's spent any reasonable amount of time around intelligent
> people on the Innurnet knows that "IANAL, TINLA" means "I am not a
> lawyer, this is not legal advice." We use these terms when discussing
> legal issues.

...

> But the more I think about it, the more ridiculous this sounds. First,
> I can't believe that in a democracy, people cannot discuss the laws of
> their country, state, or city without the appearance of "practicing
> law". Law affects everyone, and not just lawyers talk about it. It
> seems quite dangerous for free speech that discussing government
> policy without being careful could cost you fines or possibly jail
> time.

So when a bunch of freedom-loving hackers can get a
Famous Law Professor to call them back about comments
on licensing issues...

http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary

...I think it's time to retire "IANAL" for good.
So for 2006, my New Year's Resolution is that I have
something to say about a legal issue, I'll say it,
and I'll refrain from _argumentum ex ano_, and I
won't need "IANAL" either way.

What is up with Debian and CC these days, anyway?

Re: IANAL, TINLA

How about this one: IANALY!
(I am not a lawyer yet!)

Took the LSAT, did well! Applying for fall. ;)

-marcia

Original Message:
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From: Don Marti dmarti <at> zgp.org
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:55:02 -0800
To: linux-elitists <at> zgp.org
Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] IANAL, TINLA

begin Mr. Bad quotation of Wed, May 26, 2004 at 01:48:00PM -0400:

> Anyone who's spent any reasonable amount of time around intelligent
> people on the Innurnet knows that "IANAL, TINLA" means "I am not a
> lawyer, this is not legal advice." We use these terms when discussing
> legal issues.

...

> But the more I think about it, the more ridiculous this sounds. First,
> I can't believe that in a democracy, people cannot discuss the laws of
> their country, state, or city without the appearance of "practicing
> law". Law affects everyone, and not just lawyers talk about it. It
> seems quite dangerous for free speech that discussing government
> policy without being careful could cost you fines or possibly jail
> time.

Re: IANAL, TINLA

On 12-Jan-2006, Don Marti wrote:
> So when a bunch of freedom-loving hackers can get a Famous Law
> Professor to call them back about comments on licensing issues...
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary

Not sure about the connection between the URL and what you've said.

Possibly  s/can get/can't get/  ? But I don't even see in that URL
where the Famous Law Professor has or hasn't called back.

> What is up with Debian and CC these days, anyway?

Didn't you hear? Everything is software, and software is speech, and
they are me and you are we together.

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