Re: rejecting spam at SMTP time (was Re: Postfix anti-antivirus (was Re: etc))

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 15:31, Rob McGee wrote:
> Spamhaus XBL includes the CBL. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org is indeed a very
> good choice for conservative spam filtering. I've been using it only a
> couple days, still watching logs closely, but the few it caught did
> definitely sound like spam ... if you can judge from the envelope:
> something like fdkjhvwefpijvipwnb <at> hotmail.com coming from Portugal, for
> example.

This is where SPF comes in handy; unless that Portugese server is allowed to 
send mail on hotmail.com's behalf it wouldn't get through.  I just hate the 
additional network traffic involved in checking SPF records; that is why I 
use rsync and build the RBL lists locally to try and keep the total amount of 
network traffic down and the actual SMTP-time lag low.

> For some sites I'm going to get more aggressive than that and use
> dynamic IP blocks. I feel like a hypocrite in doing so since those
> lists used to block ME, but unfortunately it seems to be a very strong
> antispam measure.

Agreed; It's a shame that things have to get this way but until the spam 
problem is able to be better addressed though simple, fast and low-traffic 
verification of the sender and its authority to send on the behalf of the 
domain it's claiming to send from...  we have little choice.    It's just an 
arms race.

-A.
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Re: rejecting spam at SMTP time (was Re: Postfix anti-antivirus (was Re: etc))

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 13:46, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> > I use rbldns-list.dsbl.org and cbl.abuseat.org and they work pretty
> > decently. I drop a *ton* of connections just based on IP with those two
> > lists.

> Those look like good lists. Have you had any complaints or noticed any
> false positives?

Nope; I have to admit though I came to use those particular lists through my 
brother who spent an inordinate amount of time analyzing a lot of the lists 
out there and doing all the heavy lifting with regard to the initial "good 
list/bad list" filtering.  I took his condensed list and came up with those 
two.

I was using a different one but they shut down.  

Regards,
Andrew
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Free FPGA software on Linux

I've been thinking about getting into some hobbyist-type stuff with
FPGAs, and there seem to be all sorts of low-cost development boards
around now, and all the major players seem to be offering a
free-as-in-beer versions of their development suites.  But even though
these companies offer Linux support in their full versions (which cost
thousands of dollars) all of their free versions are windows-only.

So, the question then is what can I do to get FPGA development from HDL
to downloading on Linux?  Obviously I'd prefer open-source, but simply
being able to do all that stuff on without breaking the bank would
be acceptable.

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GNOME still > you

http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/when_did_i_become_a_gnome_weenie-2004-10-09-00-31.html

Indeed, when did we all?  It's pretty amazing how GNOME managed to
shake off the lunacy of 2.0 to make a rough but decent release by 2.2.
Each release since (2.4, 2.6, 2.8) has been a sensible progression
toward speed and integration.  It's amazing how well one system can
work well for dedicated hacker-types and complete newbies alike. 

And the best thing is that the GNOME folks have taken what they've
learned (calendar releases are a hell of a lot more productive than
milestone releases, since the alternative causes everyone to rush
their crap into the imminent release because they know it'll be two
years until they get another chance) and applied it to Debian.

It's still tailing out of beta, but Ubuntu (http://ubuntulinux.org)
has blown my mind.  Not only are they working on the same six-month
release schedule as GNOME (partly so that they can be used as a
showcase platform for same), but they manage to make the whole system
more easily administered in a number of ways.

Number one is sudo.  Ubuntu is the first sudo-based distro I've seen.
By default, root's password hash is a big ol' *.  Every system-config
operation is launched with gksudo, so the user knows that the next
step could make big changes.  It's good stuff.

Of course, no distro today would be complete without a demo liveCD.  I
haven't played with the liveCD version yet, but it may soon become my
favorite "this is GNU" intro for complete newbies.

http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/warty/preview/live-i386.iso

Re: GNOME still > you

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:37:22 -0700 
Nick Moffitt <nick <at> zork.net> wrote:

> http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/when_did_i_become_a_gnome_weenie-2004-10-09-00-31.html

> Indeed, when did we all?  

Uhh, we did?

I've yet to see value add in any of the desktop environments.  They're
still enamoured of a variety of atrocious UI decision decisions like
icons and taskbars and do a very poor job of both getting out of the way
and allowing the capable user to accurately control their operation and
get the job done.

  Trivial examples of the latter: A galeon user with a text editor wants
  the tabs in Galeon to be displayed along the RHS of the window instead
  of the along the top.  How does he find out what control file to edit
  and what does he do to it?  Heck, I do have my tabs on the right and
  have preserved that setting via having $HOME under source control, but
  Gnome has moved that setting about enough that I've no idea where or
  how it is currently stored.  

  A Gnome|KDE user is using &whatever; theme.  However he has one
  particular application which he uses differently from others and he
  wants its GUI controls to be handled differently (eg very large font
  for the menus as he uses it only via projector, or differing KB and UI
  bindings as he only uses it via shared desktops with remote users).
  How to do?  In the normal .Xdefaults world this is trivial stuff.  The
  new world is a large step back.

Re: GNOME still > you

begin  J C Lawrence  quotation:
> I've yet to see value add in any of the desktop environments.  

	Did you just say "value add"?  Are you now going to tell us
your mission statement?  Do we get MARKETING COLLATERAL for the down
payment on your opinion now?

> They're still enamoured of a variety of atrocious UI decision
> decisions like icons and taskbars and do a very poor job of both
> getting out of the way and allowing the capable user to accurately
> control their operation and get the job done.

	And I say to you that Ubuntu's 2.8 gnome install gets the hell
out of my way.  There are no icons on the desktop, and the taskbars
are invisible when you map M-C-A to the full-screen
no-window-dressings maximize toggle.  I have a large 2-D grid of
workspaces, and keep applications maximized, navigating from workspace
to workspace using C-M-≤nethack movement key>.

	And occasionally, when I get to an empty workspace, I'll bang
on one of the toolbar shortcuts to launch a program, or eye bubblemon,
or the wifi or battery status apps.  It's all good stuff.

>   Trivial examples of the latter: A galeon user with a text editor wants
>   the tabs in Galeon to be displayed along the RHS of the window instead
>   of the along the top.  How does he find out what control file to edit
>   and what does he do to it?  Heck, I do have my tabs on the right and
>   have preserved that setting via having $HOME under source control, but
>   Gnome has moved that setting about enough that I've no idea where or
>   how it is currently stored.  

Re: GNOME still > you

On Sat, 2004-09-10 at 14:37 -0700, Nick Moffit(t) wrote:

> It's still tailing out of beta, but Ubuntu (http://ubuntulinux.org)
> has blown my mind.

Golly, Mr. Pournelle, would you please tell us more breathless and
fascinating stories about the software and hardware you have installed
this week? YOUR PRODUCT ENDORSEMENT MATTERS MORE TO ME THAN LIFE ITSELF.

~Mr. Bad

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Re: GNOME still > you

begin  Uncle Bad  quotation:
> Golly, Mr. Pournelle, 

	What is it with you and pr0n?

> would you please tell us more breathless and fascinating stories
> about the software and hardware you have installed this week? YOUR
> PRODUCT ENDORSEMENT MATTERS MORE TO ME THAN LIFE ITSELF.

	Oh come on.  Can't you see that I'm trolling the hacker
wannabes on this list?  There's a branch of elitism that defines
itself by precisely what the other systems are not.  Thus, if
Mackertoshers use pictures, then the elitist says pictures are BAD.
If the Winders systems have drop-down menus on toolbars, then those
are BAD FOR USABILITY AND GET IN THE WAY OF HARD-CORE HACKING.

	I stand behind my raving Ubuntu slobber, because it's the
first distro I've come across in a good long time that actually got me
excited (potato probably being the last one).  

	Also, you come on way too strong.  Why would I hire you when
you come on so strong?

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Re: GNOME still > you

On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:37:22PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote:
>http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/when_did_i_become_a_gnome_weenie-2004-10-09-00-31.html
>Indeed, when did we all?

[looks at Window Maker desktop]
[checks package list for names containing "gnome"; finds none ]
[checks package list for names containing "kde"; likewise ]

*Who* all?
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Re: GNOME still > you

begin  Matthew W. Miller  quotation:
> On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:37:22PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> >http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/when_did_i_become_a_gnome_weenie-2004-10-09-00-31.html
> >Indeed, when did we all?
> 
> [looks at Window Maker desktop]
> [checks package list for names containing "gnome"; finds none ]
> [checks package list for names containing "kde"; likewise ]
> 
> *Who* all?

	Ah, you lovable cad!  You forgot to explain EXACTLY WHICH
MICROFEATURE of Windowmaker you absolutely CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT!

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