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Don Marti | 1 Apr 2002 05:01

Re: Re: Google censorship of xenu.com domain [#201159]

begin Seth David Schoen quotation of Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:07:18PM -0800:

> I think EFF would support search engines which chose not to do the 512
> thing.  But that doesn't mean that we'd necessarily represent them
> in court.  And to get legal advice applicable to their particular
> situations, they'd have to call us and discuss those situations.

The Great Stanford R&D Tax Shelter Scam, and its many tentacles,
don't need EFF help.  Google just needs to be able to balance a
a realistic threat of public outrage over bias against the threat
of lawsuits.

Wendy Seltzer's reply to my question about search engines and
takedown (along with my longer version of what happened) is at
http://www.ssc.com/pipermail/atc/2002-March/000010.html

     Google is misinterpreting the DMCA Safe Harbor provision -- it is
     not "legally obligated" to take down the links, but can choose at
     any point whether or not to take advantage of the Safe Harbor.
     Google could choose not to avail itself of the Safe Harbor and
     instead face directly any potential liability for its hyperlinks.

     I think liability for providing these links as search results would
     be unlikely. The claim is that a search engine's hyperlinks are
     contributory copyright infringement, because notification gives
     "knowledge" that the linked-to content was infringing (itself
     questionable in this case) and the links are a "material
     contribution" to the direct infringers' conduct. Google can leave
     the links up if it decides it's willing to face such a claim in
     possible litigation.
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Ruben I Safir | 1 Apr 2002 04:55

[NYLXS Announcement] David Sugar Lecture on Make and AutoConf

Greeting all NYLXS Members and friends

Timorrow at 6:30PM NYLXS Presents an exciting In Service Lecture 
on Make and Autoconf by GNU Speaker David Sugar.  This is the technology 
which produces the 

./configue 
make 
make install

source code compiling work for so many wonderful GNU projects, including,
for the most part, the Linux Source Code Kernel Tree.  Basic lack of 
understanding of the power of Autoconf is hurting a number of potentially 
wonderful projects, so this is a really exciting lecture to me.

As much as NYLXS can have a madatory meeting, this is it.  Everyone from 
every class and committee should make an effort to be there.  We will be 
recording the lecture for publication.

The Time of this lecture is

6:30, April 1st, 2002
at our favorite drinking hole

The Killarny Rose
80 Beaver Street
NYC,
2nd Floor

2 blocks from Wall and Williams street, downtown NYC.
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Nick Moffitt | 1 Apr 2002 05:07

Re: Re: Google censorship of xenu.com domain [#201159]

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> The server that hosts this list was unreachable from Thursday until
> today.  since Thursday.  Power-cycling the (WireSpeed) DSL box fixed
> it -- the second time this has happened.

	It also seems to lack a backup MX.

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Greg KH | 1 Apr 2002 06:06
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Re: [NYLXS Announcement] David Sugar Lecture on Make and AutoConf

<looney number of recipients snipped>

On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 09:55:34PM -0500, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> Greeting all NYLXS Members and friends
> 
> Timorrow at 6:30PM NYLXS Presents an exciting In Service Lecture 
> on Make and Autoconf by GNU Speaker David Sugar.  This is the technology 
> which produces the 
> 
> ./configue 
> make 
> make install
> 
> source code compiling work for so many wonderful GNU projects, including,
> for the most part, the Linux Source Code Kernel Tree.

Um, since when did the kernel start using autoconf?

Yes, it does use make, and it's crazy lisp like logic language, but
barely uses it at that (many people have stated that replacing make for
the kernel build with a simple script would make life much easier...)

So the kernel is _not_ a good example of the usage of make :)

thanks,

greg k-h
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Jeff Waugh | 1 Apr 2002 13:39
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Re: SpamAssassin plugin for Mailman

>>>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub <at> perkypants.org> writes:
>
>    JW> Sure; that's what I was doing before. On large systems, you JW>
>    don't necessarily want to be pounding SpamAssassin via content JW>
>    filtering in your MTA for inbound and outbound email, so it JW>
>    makes sense to run it as a Mailman plugin.
>
> Har har har! A Mailman _what_?

A mailman handler plugin...

- Jeff (in Hong Kong, gloat, gloat, gloat)

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Karsten M. Self | 1 Apr 2002 18:08
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[declan <at> well.com: FC: Did Microsoft foes bribe states to pursue antitrust suit?]

Note the date.

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:21:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "John F. McMullen" <observer <at> westnet.com>
Subject: Novak: Anti-Microsoft Scandal

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20020401.shtml

Anti-Microsoft Scandal
by Robert Novak

WASHINGTON -- California State Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer, a 60-year-old
veteran of 30 years in Democratic politics, was in Washington two weeks
ago for the national conference of state attorneys general and dropped by
a federal district courtroom for an hour or so. In progress was the latest
stage of antitrust proceedings against Microsoft. His interest may have
been stimulated by the more than $75,000 in campaign contributions from
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Eugen Leitl | 1 Apr 2002 19:20

IP: NYT: (Microsoft's) High-profile anti-Unix siteruns UNIX (FreeBSD) (fwd)

tee hee!

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To: Dave Farber <dave <at> farber.net>
Subject: NYT: (Microsoft's) High-profile anti-Unix site runs UNIX (FreeBSD)

Heard on NPR this morning, found an article on
the New York Times site (free account required):

http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-9576643.html

Excerpt:

    A Web site sponsored by Microsoft and Unisys as a way to steer big
    companies away from the Unix operating system is itself powered by
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Rick Moen | 1 Apr 2002 21:25
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Re: SpamAssassin plugin for Mailman

Quoting Jeff Waugh (jdub <at> perkypants.org):

> - Jeff (in Hong Kong, gloat, gloat, gloat)

Hey, take the Peak Tram and wave to the left side at Bowen Road station
for me, would you?  That's home base for my family.

(And do _not_ eat at the floating restaurants in Aberdeen Bay.  Your
intestines will thank you.)

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rick <at> linuxmafia.com       to kill again."  -- Rick Polito's That TV Guy column,
              describing the movie _The Wizard of Oz_
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Mr.Bad | 2 Apr 2002 00:38

Re: SpamAssassin plugin for Mailman

>>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub <at> perkypants.org> writes:

    Me> Har har har! A Mailman _what_?

    JW> A mailman handler plugin...

Last time I checked, Mailman had a laughably pathetic plugin system --
basically, just the ability to run a filter script on message
receipt. I dunno how that would be much better than running something
through the MTA, but whatever.

Maybe 2.1 is different, I dunno. Maybe this spamassassin plugin is
coolio. I dunno. If I allowed Python programs on any of my boxes, I'd
probably figure it out.

~Mr. Bad

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Eugen Leitl | 2 Apr 2002 01:18

Re: SpamAssassin plugin for Mailman

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Mr.Bad wrote:

> Maybe 2.1 is different, I dunno. Maybe this spamassassin plugin is
> coolio. I dunno. If I allowed Python programs on any of my boxes, I'd
> probably figure it out.

Your Citroen doesn't have 2.1 installed?
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