Re: grml and mactel

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<p>Hi OJ,</p>
<p>I am sorry I did not attach the exact error message. &nbsp;I did not have computer access at the time.<br><br></p>
<p>Here comes the exact error message:<br><br>-- begin: error message --<br></p>
<p>&nbsp; rEFIt - Booting Legacy OS<br></p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Starting legacy loader<br>Using load options 'USB'<br>Error: Not Found returned from legacy loader<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>
Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>
Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Load Error while (re)opening our installation volume<br><br>The firmware refused to boot from the selcted volume.  Note that external<br>
hard drives are not well-supported by Apple's firmware for legacy OS booting.<br><br>* Hit any key to continue *<br><br>-- end: error message --<br><br clear="all">--<br>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Johannes Kastl <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ojkastl <at> gmx.de">ojkastl <at> gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On 2/28/09 1:16 PM Chaitat Piriyasatit wrote:<br>
&gt; I booted grml from the live cd on macmini. &nbsp;I plugged an 8GB usb<br>
&gt; flash drive into the macmini. &nbsp;I used grml2hd to install onto my<br>
&gt; flash drive.<br><br>
</div>OK so far.<br><div class="Ih2E3d">
<br>
&gt; I then rebooted macmini while the flash was plugged. &nbsp;Refit saw my<br>
&gt; flash drive with a linux icon.<br><br>
</div>Good.<br><div class="Ih2E3d">
<br>
&gt; I chose to boot from that. &nbsp;I failed.<br><br>
</div>Not good.<br><div class="Ih2E3d">
<br>
&gt; The error message was something like cannot find OS to be loaded.<br><br>
</div>Sorry to say that, but without a crystal ball no one will be able to<br>
help. Maybe you should tell the *exact* error message?<br><br>
Maybe you could test the stick on a non-mac computer, just to be sure<br>
that it is working? And that this issue is (or is not) related to e.g.<br>
GPT-Issues.<br><br>
Regards,<br>
OJ<br>--<br>
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gold at the moment, the goblins have thightened security so much. Two<br>
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Re: grml and mactel

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<p>Regarding this:<br><br>&gt; Maybe you could test the stick on a non-mac computer, just to be sure<br>&gt; that it is working? And that this issue is (or is not) related to e.g.<br>&gt; GPT-Issues.</p>
<p>I will use grml2hd to do a fresh install to my usb drive through my macmini and then I will boot this usb drive from a PC.</p>
<p>[I am using grml on another 8GB usb drive on PC]</p>
<p>--<br></p>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Chaitat Piriyastit <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:chaitatp <at> gmail.com">chaitatp <at> gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<p>Hi OJ,</p>
<p>I am sorry I did not attach the exact error message. &nbsp;I did not have computer access at the time.<br><br></p>
<p>Here comes the exact error message:<br><br>-- begin: error message --<br></p>
<p>&nbsp; rEFIt - Booting Legacy OS<br></p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Starting legacy loader<br>Using load options 'USB'<br>Error: Not Found returned from legacy loader<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>

Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>

Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Load Error while (re)opening our installation volume<br><br>The firmware refused to boot from the selcted volume.  Note that external<br>

hard drives are not well-supported by Apple's firmware for legacy OS booting.<br><br>* Hit any key to continue *<br><br>-- end: error message --<div class="Ih2E3d">
<br><br clear="all">--<br>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>
... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div><div class="Wj3C7c">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Johannes Kastl <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ojkastl <at> gmx.de" target="_blank">ojkastl <at> gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<div>On 2/28/09 1:16 PM Chaitat Piriyasatit wrote:<br>
&gt; I booted grml from the live cd on macmini. &nbsp;I plugged an 8GB usb<br>
&gt; flash drive into the macmini. &nbsp;I used grml2hd to install onto my<br>
&gt; flash drive.<br><br>
</div>OK so far.<br><div>
<br>
&gt; I then rebooted macmini while the flash was plugged. &nbsp;Refit saw my<br>
&gt; flash drive with a linux icon.<br><br>
</div>Good.<br><div>
<br>
&gt; I chose to boot from that. &nbsp;I failed.<br><br>
</div>Not good.<br><div>
<br>
&gt; The error message was something like cannot find OS to be loaded.<br><br>
</div>Sorry to say that, but without a crystal ball no one will be able to<br>
help. Maybe you should tell the *exact* error message?<br><br>
Maybe you could test the stick on a non-mac computer, just to be sure<br>
that it is working? And that this issue is (or is not) related to e.g.<br>
GPT-Issues.<br><br>
Regards,<br>
OJ<br>--<br>
`because it's taking about five hours for the public to get to their<br>
gold at the moment, the goblins have thightened security so much. Two<br>
days ago Arkie Philpott hat a Probity Probe stuck up his ... well, trust<br>
me, this way's easier.&acute; (Bill Weasley in Harry Potter 6)<br><br><br>
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Re: grml and mactel

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<p>Hi OJ,<br><br>I have just made a fresh installation and it can be booted from PC.<br>What I did are:<br><br>* boot grml live cd from macmini<br>* plug usb flash drive into macmini<br>* grml2hd into that flash drive<br>* on the very last installation process, i select to install lilo on mbr<br>
* i shutdown macmini<br>* i plug that flash drive into my pc<br>* i can boot grml from that flash drive on my pc properly<br><br>However, when I tried on macmini, it shows the same error message I provided you before.<br><br>Thanks,<br clear="all">--<br>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Chaitat Piriyastit <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:chaitatp <at> gmail.com">chaitatp <at> gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Regarding this:<div class="Ih2E3d">
<br><br>&gt; Maybe you could test the stick on a non-mac computer, just to be sure<br>&gt; that it is working? And that this issue is (or is not) related to e.g.<br>&gt; GPT-Issues.</div>
<p>I will use grml2hd to do a fresh install to my usb drive through my macmini and then I will boot this usb drive from a PC.</p>
<p>[I am using grml on another 8GB usb drive on PC]</p>
<div class="Ih2E3d">
<p>--<br></p>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br>
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<div></div>
<div class="Wj3C7c">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Chaitat Piriyastit <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:chaitatp <at> gmail.com" target="_blank">chaitatp <at> gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<p>Hi OJ,</p>
<p>I am sorry I did not attach the exact error message. &nbsp;I did not have computer access at the time.<br><br></p>
<p>Here comes the exact error message:<br><br>-- begin: error message --<br></p>
<p>&nbsp; rEFIt - Booting Legacy OS<br></p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Starting legacy loader<br>Using load options 'USB'<br>Error: Not Found returned from legacy loader<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>

Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>

Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Not Found from LocateDevicePath<br>Error: Load Error while (re)opening our installation volume<br><br>The firmware refused to boot from the selcted volume.  Note that external<br>

hard drives are not well-supported by Apple's firmware for legacy OS booting.<br><br>* Hit any key to continue *<br><br>-- end: error message --<div>
<br><br clear="all">--<br>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>
... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div><div>On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Johannes Kastl <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ojkastl <at> gmx.de" target="_blank">ojkastl <at> gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div><div>
<div>On 2/28/09 1:16 PM Chaitat Piriyasatit wrote:<br>
&gt; I booted grml from the live cd on macmini. &nbsp;I plugged an 8GB usb<br>
&gt; flash drive into the macmini. &nbsp;I used grml2hd to install onto my<br>
&gt; flash drive.<br><br>
</div>OK so far.<br><div>
<br>
&gt; I then rebooted macmini while the flash was plugged. &nbsp;Refit saw my<br>
&gt; flash drive with a linux icon.<br><br>
</div>Good.<br><div>
<br>
&gt; I chose to boot from that. &nbsp;I failed.<br><br>
</div>Not good.<br><div>
<br>
&gt; The error message was something like cannot find OS to be loaded.<br><br>
</div>Sorry to say that, but without a crystal ball no one will be able to<br>
help. Maybe you should tell the *exact* error message?<br><br>
Maybe you could test the stick on a non-mac computer, just to be sure<br>
that it is working? And that this issue is (or is not) related to e.g.<br>
GPT-Issues.<br><br>
Regards,<br>
OJ<br>--<br>
`because it's taking about five hours for the public to get to their<br>
gold at the moment, the goblins have thightened security so much. Two<br>
days ago Arkie Philpott hat a Probity Probe stuck up his ... well, trust<br>
me, this way's easier.&acute; (Bill Weasley in Harry Potter 6)<br><br><br>
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Re: grml and mactel

Hi there,

On 3/1/09 3:29 PM Chaitat Piriyastit wrote:

> -- begin: error message --
> 
>   rEFIt - Booting Legacy OS

As far as I can see it is a Mac related problem, or rather a refit
related one.

Try to hold down the ALT key when booting, then refit should not appear.
Instead (I hope) the builtin apple Boot menu should appear, with your
flash drive selectable. Try to boot it from this menu, and see what happens.

Regards,
OJ
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Hi there,

On 3/1/09 3:29 PM Chaitat Piriyastit wrote:

> -- begin: error message --
> 
>   rEFIt - Booting Legacy OS

As far as I can see it is a Mac related problem, or rather a refit
related one.

Try to hold down the ALT key when booting, then refit should not appear.
Instead (I hope) the builtin apple Boot menu should appear, with your
flash drive selectable. Try to boot it from this menu, and see what happens.

Regards,
OJ
--

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Using VMware Workstation on GRML Linux

I was wondering, how difficult it is to install the Gnome environment
inside the GRML environment when installed onto a hard-disk drive?
Probably an aptitude-install Gnome does it.
However, Hear is what I was wanting to know.
I have purchased the VMWare Workstation package, and have a registered
serial number for it.
It's a standard tar formatted file, with a Tar.GZ extention added onto
the end of it.
Extracting it isn't my problem.
The problem is, how will I instruct it to boot the necessary VMware
services on boot of GRML itself?
I also hope, that I will be able to simply do an grml-x gnome and have
gnome launch directly and then run VMware workstation.
Could anyone contact me with instructions on this process? Thanks.
Regards, --Keith

Using GRML2HD in a productive environment...

How would GRML2hd be used in an productive environment necessarily?
I'm curious about that.
Also, in grml, if installed onto the hard-drive, I assume that I do
not need to manually edit the network interfaces file owing to the use
of the grml-netcard or grml-network scripts?
The other question, is this.
I have an Internet domain that I want GRML to be able to resolve to an
IP address, or at least realize that the domain exists.
So, hear is my question.
What happens in grml if I add to resolv.conf:
search "domain.org" without quotations, (assuming) that domain.org existed?
The second question relating to resolv.conf, is how could I keep DHCP
from overighting it?
Thanks.
Regards, --Keith

Re: grml and mactel

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<p>I have tried that but it did not work as well. &nbsp;I am thinking it is about EFI (GPT). &nbsp;I think I will need a way to place some EFI files inside (maybe) /efi/ directory. &nbsp;I am still digging.</p>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks<br clear="all">
--<br>Chaitat Piriyasatit<br><br>... waking up to pee and see whats up online<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Johannes Kastl <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ojkastl <at> gmx.de">ojkastl <at> gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Hi there,<br><div class="Ih2E3d">
<br>
On 3/1/09 3:29 PM Chaitat Piriyastit wrote:<br><br>
&gt; -- begin: error message --<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; rEFIt - Booting Legacy OS<br><br>
</div>As far as I can see it is a Mac related problem, or rather a refit<br>
related one.<br><br>
Try to hold down the ALT key when booting, then refit should not appear.<br>
Instead (I hope) the builtin apple Boot menu should appear, with your<br>
flash drive selectable. Try to boot it from this menu, and see what happens.<br><br>
Regards,<br>
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Re: grml and mactel

On 3/2/09 6:09 AM Chaitat Piriyastit wrote:

> I have tried that but it did not work as well.  

Damn.

> I am thinking it is about EFI (GPT).

Seconded.

>   I think I will need a way to place some EFI files inside (maybe)
> /efi/ directory.  I am still digging.

Why should you? Of your refit works there should not be any need.

Maybe try some more sticks, USB HDDs, CDs, whatever. Or just remove
refit, and try with the Apple thingy.

Or reinstall refit. Or... ;-(

Regards,
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On 3/2/09 6:09 AM Chaitat Piriyastit wrote:

> I have tried that but it did not work as well.  

Damn.

> I am thinking it is about EFI (GPT).

Seconded.

>   I think I will need a way to place some EFI files inside (maybe)
> /efi/ directory.  I am still digging.

Why should you? Of your refit works there should not be any need.

Maybe try some more sticks, USB HDDs, CDs, whatever. Or just remove
refit, and try with the Apple thingy.

Or reinstall refit. Or... ;-(

Regards,
OJ
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Re: Using VMware Workstation on GRML Linux

On 3/2/09 12:27 AM Keith Hinton wrote:

> The problem is, how will I instruct it to boot the necessary VMware
> services on boot of GRML itself?

You unpack the tar (to /opt/vmware), and then run vmware-install.pl,
which copies the files to the right places /usr/lib/vmware/,
/etc/vmware/, /etc/init.d/...).

So basically I would say the procedure is the same as with any other
linux distribution.

> I also hope, that I will be able to simply do an grml-x gnome and have
> gnome launch directly and then run VMware workstation.

Gnome should have any kind of autostart.

Regards,
OJ
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they start making vacuum cleaners.
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On 3/2/09 12:27 AM Keith Hinton wrote:

> The problem is, how will I instruct it to boot the necessary VMware
> services on boot of GRML itself?

You unpack the tar (to /opt/vmware), and then run vmware-install.pl,
which copies the files to the right places /usr/lib/vmware/,
/etc/vmware/, /etc/init.d/...).

So basically I would say the procedure is the same as with any other
linux distribution.

> I also hope, that I will be able to simply do an grml-x gnome and have
> gnome launch directly and then run VMware workstation.

Gnome should have any kind of autostart.

Regards,
OJ
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Re: Using GRML2HD in a productive environment...

On 3/2/09 12:33 AM Keith Hinton wrote:
> How would GRML2hd be used in an productive environment necessarily?
> I'm curious about that.

What exactly do you want to know? How should the usage differ from
non-productive (home?) environment?

> Also, in grml, if installed onto the hard-drive, I assume that I do
> not need to manually edit the network interfaces file owing to the use
> of the grml-netcard or grml-network scripts?

Yes. grml-network IIRC.

> I have an Internet domain that I want GRML to be able to resolve to an
> IP address, or at least realize that the domain exists.

You should have a Nameserver for your domain, so that should have
nothing to do with grml. Or am I missing anything?

> What happens in grml if I add to resolv.conf:
> search "domain.org" without quotations, (assuming) that domain.org existed?

AFAIK this will only add a domain.org to any non-fully-qualified
hostnames. Search for "foo" and it will add domain.org => foo.domain.org

Regards,
OJ
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back -´ `Dumbledore says people find it far easier to forgive others for
being wrong than being right,´ said Hermione.
(Ron and Hermione in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince)

On 3/2/09 12:33 AM Keith Hinton wrote:
> How would GRML2hd be used in an productive environment necessarily?
> I'm curious about that.

What exactly do you want to know? How should the usage differ from
non-productive (home?) environment?

> Also, in grml, if installed onto the hard-drive, I assume that I do
> not need to manually edit the network interfaces file owing to the use
> of the grml-netcard or grml-network scripts?

Yes. grml-network IIRC.

> I have an Internet domain that I want GRML to be able to resolve to an
> IP address, or at least realize that the domain exists.

You should have a Nameserver for your domain, so that should have
nothing to do with grml. Or am I missing anything?

> What happens in grml if I add to resolv.conf:
> search "domain.org" without quotations, (assuming) that domain.org existed?

AFAIK this will only add a domain.org to any non-fully-qualified
hostnames. Search for "foo" and it will add domain.org => foo.domain.org

Regards,
OJ
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back -´ `Dumbledore says people find it far easier to forgive others for
being wrong than being right,´ said Hermione.
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