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Bob Proulx | 1 Feb 01:07
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

Harry Putnam wrote:
> Plus in a pinch during pitched battles with spouse, it makes an
> excellent self defense implement... it easily deflects various
> plastic and glassware missiles... it even proved effective against
> the proverbial skillet, but I'll admit it was only a glancing blow,
> and it did leave a slight visible ding in the underside.
> 
> There can be a small problem when doing defensive running and using it
> like a shield.  Bad things can happen when you hit the end of the usb
> cable. 

I know this is drifting off topic and I am sorry but I can't resist.
If you have seen it then this is old hat.  If you haven't seen it then
it is about time.

  Compiling
  http://xkcd.com/303/

Enjoy! :-)

Bob
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cletusjenkins | 1 Feb 01:14
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Re: Python

Excellent, I'll check them out. Not to start a flame-war between python 2 and 3 supporters, or even get too
much into python-specifics on a debian list but should I go with version 2 or just jump into 3? Does it matter?

---- On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:56:27 -0800 Wayne Topa  wrote ---- 

>On 01/31/2012 04:24 PM, cletusjenkins wrote: 
>> Hello, I am interested to learn how to program in Python. What debian 
>> packages would I need to start coding some basic cgi in apache? Thanks. 
>> 
> 
>There are 2 python book packages: 
>diveintopython which covers Python 2 
>and 
>diveintopython3 which covers Python 3 
> 
>Use apt-cache search to see there description 
> 
>like this 
>apt-cache show diveintopython 
> 
>HTH 
> 
>WT 
> 
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John Hasler | 1 Feb 01:18
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

Harry Putnam writes:
> There can be a small problem when doing defensive running and using
> [an IBM Model M keyboard] like a shield.  Bad things can happen when
> you hit the end of the usb cable.

And you wouldn't want to use it as an offensive weapon: too lethal.
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doug | 1 Feb 01:27

Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

On 01/31/2012 06:54 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Bob Proulx<bob <at> proulx.com>  writes:
>
>> By the way...  The IBM Model M keyboard is an example of one of the
>> finest keyboards ever made.  Unicomp bought the rights to continue
>> making that same keyboard.  By all reports they are excellent.
> I agree.  I got this one on the strength of reviews and friends advice
> when I grew tired of the sorry flexing, number loosing junk on the
> market now.
>
> Its been in use steadily for several mnths... maybe closing in on a
> year now and I really like it.
/snip/

I have several model M keyboards--two full size, in regular use, and one 
without the number pad, that I'm using now with a home-bound laptop. All 
of them were bought at computer flea-markets 10 or more years ago, where 
they were already used
product.  They will probably be working after I'm dead, if some 
numbskull doesn't throw them out for not having windows keys!

There is an outfit called "Clicky Keys"--you can find it on the 
net--that refurbs original model M's for sale.

They are kind of noisy for use in a business office, but at home I 
wouldn't trade them for anything!

--doug
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lee | 1 Feb 01:15
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> writes:

> Keyboard is from `Unicomp' and weighs about 10 lbs.

I wish I could get some of those ...

> I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
> (seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.

Did you check /etc/default/keyboard?
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Wayne Topa | 1 Feb 01:37
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Re: Python

On 01/31/2012 07:14 PM, cletusjenkins wrote:
> Excellent, I'll check them out. Not to start a flame-war between python 2 and 3 supporters, or even get too
much into python-specifics on a debian list but should I go with version 2 or just jump into 3? Does it matter?
>
> ---- On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:56:27 -0800 Wayne Topa  wrote ----
>
>> On 01/31/2012 04:24 PM, cletusjenkins wrote:
>>> Hello, I am interested to learn how to program in Python. What debian
>>> packages would I need to start coding some basic cgi in apache? Thanks.
>>>
>>

Well I have both python 2 & 3 installed so I have both books.  I started 
with python-2 so ....

WT
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Alan Chandler | 1 Feb 01:40
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Re: Converting to btrfs

On 30/01/12 13:02, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> On 01/30/12 at 06:52am, Alan Chandler wrote:
>> On 29/01/12 18:21, Christian Dysthe wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have an older laptop running Sid I like to play around with. I would
>>> like to check out the new btrfs file system and know you can easily convert
>> >from  ext4 to btrfs. The disk is partitioned with a small /boot partition, a
>>> 10 gb / partition and a /home parirtion taking the rest of the disk (except
>>> for swap). As long as I keep the /boot parition ext4 do I have to do more
>>> than point to the new UUIDs in fstab after conversion and update grub?
>>>
>> Its been a while since I made myself a setup like this - but I think
>> you will also have to ensure that initramfs has the bttrfs driver in
>> it.
> That means I need a kernel with btrfs support and then do an
> 'update-initramfs' also?
>

The standard debian kernels have btrfs modules with them.  What you need 
to do is ensure they are loaded before accessing the root filesystem.  
That is where initramfs comes in.

I'm afraid I don't know the details.  It was about 6 months ago I played 
with this - and came to the conclusion I wouldn't do it for real and am 
now happily using ext4 for everything except my offsite backups - where 
btrfs is the mechanism I use.

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Chris Hiestand | 1 Feb 01:26

Re: Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"


On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:

>> I've had a stable, working, preseed configuration with no changes
>> other than downloading the latest stable debian releases (netboot
>> images). Suddenly partman has stopped working in my preseed:
> 
> If you swap back in the previous netboot image does that restore the
> working behavior?  If so then that would be a strong indicator of a
> bug in the latest files.  It would warrant a bug report in that case.

So I restored an old version from tape and I have the same problem. I can think of 3 categorical reasons what's
going on:

1. One of the retrieved udebs is causing the problem, like maybe md-modules-2.6.32-5-amd64-di - this
seems somewhat unlikely
2. A configuration option has changed and suddenly my configuration has been rendered bad - this seems very unlikely
3. This only effects me and I'm totally missing how this is my fault; a definite possibility.

>> Did the new kernel release drop LVM support, despite being required
>> by preseed partman? Is anyone else having this problem?
> 
> Since I am using a Stable netboot I am not updating it until Wheezy.
> So I can't confirm or deny the problem here.  But I did have other
> comments.

Would you mind running a test install and seeing if things are still working for you? If you have a chance anyway.

I've now also reproduced the problem with the 32-bit kernel as well.
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Scott Ferguson | 1 Feb 02:08
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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

On 01/02/12 10:54, lee wrote:
> Harshad Joshi <firewalrus <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I am not getting replies to mails i am sending on this list. i have to
>> manually check or refer google to get answers..
>>
>> can someone look in this matter? 
> 
> Do you see the mail you sent to the list? (If gmail supresses mail you
> are supposed to get, like someone mentioned, I won´t use it ...)
> 
> This is an interesting post because currently mails I´m sending to the
> list seem not to get through. If they did get through, I would receive
> them from the list. Has anyone received this message I sent:
> 
> 
> From: lee <lee <at> songoku.yagibdah.de>
> Subject: tmpfs --- correct entries for /etc/fstab?
> To: debian-user <at> lists.debian.org
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:28:09 +0000 (23 hours, 21 minutes, 58 seconds ago)
> 
> 
> I can´t find this post in the list, nor any answers to it, on my side,
> so I don´t know if it got through.
> 
> 

It didn't (get to the list).

Is that your own mailserver? Your post shows:-
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Thomas E. Dickey | 1 Feb 01:56
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Re: console_codes question (was Accented Characters - How to type)

On Jan 30, 11:40 am, "Thomas H. George" <li...@tomgeorge.info> wrote:
> The man page for console_codes explains that there are two fonts
> available (G0 and G1) with commands ^O and ^N to switch between them.
> Furthermore, it is possible replace the standard font for G1 (VT100
> graphics) with a user-defined character set.
>
> I have not been able to make all this work but it suggests I could have
> any characters I want by constructing an appropriate user-defined
> character set for G1 and switching between G0 and G1 as needed.
>
> Currently the character sets for G0 and G1 seem to be identical so the
> commands ^O and ^N seem to have no effect.  The console_codes man page
> includes references to man pages for ncurses and reset.  My system has
> no man page for ncurses but the man page for reset includes the command
> ^Jreset^J which works and changes the current character set to a much
> smaller font size, again with no difference between G0 and G1.
>
> Question:  Should this all work as described? Is it obsolete?

It should work, but (Linux console) generally does not, for a variety
of reasons.

The people who've worked on the console more/less decided to ignore
this
aspect only only retain line-drawing as a special case in UTF-8
support.

Before that, the character-switching  was still not VT100-like, but
aimed
at switching PC fonts.  There was a patch 5-6 years ago which was
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