Ron Johnson | 1 Jun 01:00 2008
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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]


On 05/31/08 15:54, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:00:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/27/08 15:27, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
> 
>>> Would using mbox make it any better?
>> Depends on your definition of "better".  uw-imapd and (maybe)
>> Dovecot support mbox-backed-IMAP, so maybe that's the route you
>> should take.
> 
> uw-imapd supports mbox and an improved folder-in-a-file format called
> mbx.

And when you need to delete an email from the middle of an huge
sequential file?

The bottom line is that sequential files are *bad* "huge data"
stores for everything except append-only log files.

>       Dovecot supports both. It also indexes the mbox file (assuming that
> it is the only one modifiying it, according to ctime).

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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

"I must acknowledge, once and for all, that the purpose of
diplomacy is to prolong a crisis.", Mr. Spock
Predrag Gavrilovic | 1 Jun 01:05 2008
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Re: BUG: Epiphany and Evolution start in offline mode when I am online wireless

As for epiphany, you should turn off (using gconf-editor)
apps/epiphany/general/managed_network. I'm not sure, but I beleive it
was allready mentioned on the list( I saw it somewhere). It was
annoying for me to.

I do not use Evolution much,  but I can see
apps/evolution/shell/start_offline in gconf-editor.

Looks that Network Manager thinks you are offline unless interfaces
are in "roaming mode" and connected. That means that even if
interfaces are properly configured trough /etc/network/interfaces and
connected, NM thinks you are offline. There is bug #415891 reported as
I can see, and things are going to improve in newer versions of NM.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Peer Schaefer <peer.schaefer <at> hamburg.de> wrote:
> Package: unknown
> Version: NN
>
> I am connected to the Internet via an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
> (iwl3945 module). Epiphany and Evolution work fine, but always start in
> "offline mode". To connect to any site resp. receive/send e-mail, I have
> to uncheck the item "Work offline" in the "Files" menu of
> Epiphany/Evolution. Iceweasel/Firefox behaves different and starts in
> online mode. Lynx and ping also work fine from the start.
>
> Perhaphs its a bug in Gnome: When I am connected wireless the network
> manager always shows the "not connected" icon, even when I am online.
> Connecting wired via eth0 "cures" the problem. Perhaps Gnome notifies
> all Gnome-native apps that I am offline when I am using wlan0 (because
> eth0 is dead).
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Tzafrir Cohen | 1 Jun 01:06 2008
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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 06:00:16PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 05/31/08 15:54, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:00:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 05/27/08 15:27, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
> > 
> >>> Would using mbox make it any better?
> >> Depends on your definition of "better".  uw-imapd and (maybe)
> >> Dovecot support mbox-backed-IMAP, so maybe that's the route you
> >> should take.
> > 
> > uw-imapd supports mbox and an improved folder-in-a-file format called
> > mbx.
> 
> And when you need to delete an email from the middle of an huge
> sequential file?
> 
> The bottom line is that sequential files are *bad* "huge data"
> stores for everything except append-only log files.

I didn't say it was optimal. I only said it was way better than
non-indexed mbox.

And then, of course, is the counter claim that maildir requires you many
more system calls for the basic operation of scanning a mailbox, which
is more common than modifying a mailbox.

(This is, at least, the opinion of Mark Crispin, last time I read him in
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Ron Johnson | 1 Jun 02:07 2008
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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]


On 05/31/08 18:06, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 06:00:16PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/31/08 15:54, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:00:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 05/27/08 15:27, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
>>>>> Would using mbox make it any better?
>>>> Depends on your definition of "better".  uw-imapd and (maybe)
>>>> Dovecot support mbox-backed-IMAP, so maybe that's the route you
>>>> should take.
>>> uw-imapd supports mbox and an improved folder-in-a-file format called
>>> mbx.
>> And when you need to delete an email from the middle of an huge
>> sequential file?
>>
>> The bottom line is that sequential files are *bad* "huge data"
>> stores for everything except append-only log files.
> 
> I didn't say it was optimal. I only said it was way better than
> non-indexed mbox.
> 
> And then, of course, is the counter claim that maildir requires you many
> more system calls for the basic operation of scanning a mailbox, which
> is more common than modifying a mailbox.

That may be why searching a whole folder is so slow in Tbird &
courier-imapd.  Or maybe not.

> (This is, at least, the opinion of Mark Crispin, last time I read him in
> a discussion on that topic)
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Douglas A. Tutty | 1 Jun 02:16 2008
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Re: text file from Linux to windows.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
> > in those times which became the mainframe culture gives rise to a
> > different type of sysadmin than unix does.  Even in the same company.
> > I've known IBM people and the AIX types are fundamentally different than
> > the (now) Z/OS types.  Unfortunaly, I haven't collected enough quarters
> > [1] from them to join the ranks.
> 
> My opinion on that is that Unix as always been predominately
> weighted towards interactive and daemon processes, whereas
> mainframes were/are weighted towards batch jobs (even CICS is a
> batch job), batch queues and job schedulers.  Cron really is a poor
> substitute for batch queues and a job scheduler.
> 

But you confuse an OS (e.g. UNIX) on the one hand with hardware
(e.g. mainframe) on the other.  Sure, that used to be the case but now
you have zVM with hundreds (thousands?) of VMs each running the OS most
appropriate for the job, e.g. AIX, or Debian, zOS.  I agree that the OSs
have their focus and e.g. people would rather sit down to a bash prompt
than a whatever-it-is in VMS, MVS, zOS, etc.  

Perhaps mainframe types are the people who can think in acronyms and the
Unix types are the people who can think in conjoined words and
shortforms (e.g. umount, rm, mv).  

Perhaps its the virtuality of services since the virtual machine is
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L.V.Gandhi | 1 Jun 02:25 2008
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Uninstall programs installed in wine.

How to uninstall programs installed in wine?

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Douglas A. Tutty | 1 Jun 02:39 2008
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Re: Uninstall programs installed in wine.

On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 05:55:56AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> How to uninstall programs installed in wine?
> 

distill it to a port?

:)

Sorry.

Doug.

Ron Johnson | 1 Jun 02:45 2008
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Re: text file from Linux to windows.


On 05/31/08 19:16, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
>>> in those times which became the mainframe culture gives rise to a
>>> different type of sysadmin than unix does.  Even in the same company.
>>> I've known IBM people and the AIX types are fundamentally different than
>>> the (now) Z/OS types.  Unfortunaly, I haven't collected enough quarters
>>> [1] from them to join the ranks.
>> My opinion on that is that Unix as always been predominately
>> weighted towards interactive and daemon processes, whereas
>> mainframes were/are weighted towards batch jobs (even CICS is a
>> batch job), batch queues and job schedulers.  Cron really is a poor
>> substitute for batch queues and a job scheduler.
>>
> 
> But you confuse an OS (e.g. UNIX) on the one hand with hardware
> (e.g. mainframe) on the other.  Sure, that used to be the case but now
> you have zVM with hundreds (thousands?) of VMs each running the OS most

My remembrance of the mainframe *is* pretty old school: a 4381
running a couple of DOS/VSE/SP instances, and a few of us logging
into VM/CMS running REXX scripts connecting async modems to virtual
card readers.  And teaching me what an amazingly productive language
that COBOL is when used by experts.

> appropriate for the job, e.g. AIX, or Debian, zOS.  I agree that the OSs
> have their focus and e.g. people would rather sit down to a bash prompt
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Jordi GutiƩrrez Hermoso | 1 Jun 03:03 2008
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Left speaker gets no sound but both earphones do

I'm using an Inspiron 1420 laptop. The sound is an Intel chipset. lspci says:

     00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
     Controller (rev 02)

A while ago, perhaps during an upgrade, perhaps during a physical
accident, I lost sound on my left speaker. This had happened before
when for mysterious reason I managed to mute the left channel only.
This time, though, I looked around in alsamixer, and it doesn't look
like the left channel is muted. Furthermore, if I plug in the
headphones, I do get sound in both channels.

Is anyone else experiencing something similar? Please tell me that
this isn't a hardware problem. :-(

- Jordi G. H.

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