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Editorial · Enquesta | 2 Dec 2011 13:38

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Luca Capello | 2 Dec 2011 15:34
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www.debian.org: please define a policy for event locations

tags 646150 + patch
thanks

Hi there!

On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:39:45 +0200, Paul Wise wrote:
> [Please CC me in reply]

Done.

I have started to document this on a wiki page [1], I will wait one more
week before sending an RFC to the d-publicity <at>  mailing list.

[1] <http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Events/Policy>

> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Luca Capello wrote:
>> In the second case, AFAIK the current policy is "CITY, COUNTRY" and it
>> has been like this for the events since 1999, with some exceptions like
>> "PHYSICAL_LOCATION, CITY, COUNTRY" (with PHYSICAL_LOCATION being the
>> building or the institution) or "CITY, STATE, COUNTRY" (especially true
>> for some USA locations).
>
> I would like as much specificity as possible in the location
> information, possibly even including GPS co-ordinates of the
> reception/start point and or a link to OpenStreetMap or the map
> provided by the event organisers if any exists.

Fully agreed, if we want as much specificity as possible the
PHYSICAL_LOCATION should be included, so the tag would be (information
in brackets are optional):

  [PHYSICAL_LOCATION,] CITY [(STATE_ABBREVIATED)], COUNTRY, GPS_COORDINATES

However, all these information can cause the line in the event page [2]
to be too long.  Just imagine for FOSDEM 2007 [3] (discussion about the
date format is at #650378 [4]):

- [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, Brussels, Belgium
+ [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, ULB Campus Solbosh, Brussels,
Belgium, +50.812650;+4.380320
+ [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, ULB Campus Solbosh, Brussels,
Belgium, 50.812650 N 4.380320 E
+ [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, ULB Campus Solbosh, Brussels,
Belgium, 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E

[2] <http://www.debian.org/events/>
[3] <http://www.debian.org/events/2007/0224-fosdem>
[4] <http://bugs.debian.org/650378>

Here my proposition which I will add to the wiki as well:

a) the requirement for the tag is the line above.

b) PHYSICAL_LOCATION should be a *single* building or institution,
   without any comma, so in the example above not "Université Libre de
   Bruxelles, Campus Solbosh", but "ULB Campus Solbosh".

c) GPS_COORDINATES must be present and in a standard form: despite me
   not being able to find a reference [5], I would say that the form
   should be 'DEGREES MINUTES SECONDS CARDINAL-DIRECTION' (with symbols
   instead of spaces).  FYI, Wikipedia's city page for Brussels [6] use:

   * 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E
     when in a graphical browser (Iceweasel) 

   * 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E / 50.85°N 4.35°E / 50.85; 4.35
     when in a textual browser (w3m)

   I do not know which map these coordinates should be linked to either:
   the one linked to by Wikipedia is GeoHack [7], which seems a good
   option also because it offers the possibility to create a link with
   "custom" coordinates [8].  If we should choose a real map, then I
   will go for OpenStreetMap [9].

[5] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system>
[6] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels>
[7] <https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/GeoHack>
[8] <http://toolserver.org/~geohack/>
[9] <http://www.openstreetmap.org/>

d) the event page [2] will show only the second and third fields, which
   means CITY (plus STATE if present) and COUNTRY, while each specific
   page [3] will have everything.

I stop here for today :-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
Debian Bug Tracking System | 2 Dec 2011 15:36
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Steve Langasek | 2 Dec 2011 23:08
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Bug#650784: wiki.debian.org: new page does not show up in search; indexing broken?

Package: wiki.debian.org
Severity: normal

I've recently added a page to the Debian wiki,
<http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingAPackage>, that was based on
<http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial>.  I created a new page
specifically so that it would turn up better in likely search results.

However, when searching page titles for 'build package', 'package build',
'building package', and 'building', various other pages are returned but
this page is not.  I suspect that some search index is not being updated
properly, because I can't see any other relevant difference between the
pages that are returned in the search results and this one.

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Paul Wise | 3 Dec 2011 03:17
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www.debian.org: please define a policy for event locations

On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 15:34 +0100, Luca Capello wrote:

> I have started to document this on a wiki page [1], I will wait one more
> week before sending an RFC to the d-publicity <at>  mailing list.
> 
> [1] <http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Events/Policy>

Some thoughts

abbr: sometimes the event itself will have defined a preferred
abbreviation (ie DebConf12 or 28C3). Otherwise using the filename and
year seems fine.

year: indeed, start_date, end_date should be enough.

> Fully agreed, if we want as much specificity as possible the
> PHYSICAL_LOCATION should be included, so the tag would be (information
> in brackets are optional):
> 
>   [PHYSICAL_LOCATION,] CITY [(STATE_ABBREVIATED)], COUNTRY, GPS_COORDINATES

Looks good. In the actual WML I would suggest separating these out into
specific tags and then combining them in the HTML output, since you
might want different data in the iCal format.

> However, all these information can cause the line in the event page [2]
> to be too long.  Just imagine for FOSDEM 2007 [3] (discussion about the
> date format is at #650378 [4]):

Hmm, agreed. I would suggest that maybe the location information should
be short at the top (just city/country), with a link to a sub-section of
the page for more information.

> a) the requirement for the tag is the line above.

As above, I suggest splitting the tag into separate pieces.

> b) PHYSICAL_LOCATION should be a *single* building or institution,
>    without any comma, so in the example above not "Université Libre de
>    Bruxelles, Campus Solbosh", but "ULB Campus Solbosh".

Sounds good.

> c) GPS_COORDINATES must be present and in a standard form: despite me
>    not being able to find a reference [5], I would say that the form
>    should be 'DEGREES MINUTES SECONDS CARDINAL-DIRECTION' (with symbols
>    instead of spaces).  FYI, Wikipedia's city page for Brussels [6] use:

Sounds good.

>    * 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E
>      when in a graphical browser (Iceweasel) 
> 
>    * 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E / 50.85°N 4.35°E / 50.85; 4.35
>      when in a textual browser (w3m)

I don't think the middle one is needed, but the last one would be useful
I guess. Its a shame that there is no HTML tag for locations, there is a
microformat for that though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_(microformat)

>    I do not know which map these coordinates should be linked to either:
>    the one linked to by Wikipedia is GeoHack [7], which seems a good
>    option also because it offers the possibility to create a link with
>    "custom" coordinates [8].  If we should choose a real map, then I
>    will go for OpenStreetMap [9].

I personally lean towards just OpenStreetMap. If people want to use the
non-free services they can copy and paste the GPS co-ordinates into the
search field on those maps. Most of the ones I tried (Google, Bing,
Yahoo) understand the format you have given above. There are some that
do not (at least maps.nokia.com, whereis.com.au) though. 

If we go with OpenStreetMap there will need to be an osm_zoom tag to
specify how far to zoom in.

> d) the event page [2] will show only the second and third fields, which
>    means CITY (plus STATE if present) and COUNTRY, while each specific
>    page [3] will have everything.

Sounds good.

A region specification would be useful for people who haven't heard of
the country, so they will be able to have a general location.

I would suggest a link to the venue page for the conference.

I've made a mockup of my suggestions above here:

http://people.debian.org/~pabs/tmp/0707-debconf.html

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Strato | 3 Dec 2011 20:44
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Probleme mit apt

fehler:

Paketinformationen konnten nicht initialisiert werden.

Beim Initialisieren der Paketinformationen trat ein Problem auf, das nicht behoben werden konnte.

Bitte erstellen Sie einen Fehlerbericht für das Paket »update-manager« und fügen Sie dort folgende Fehlernachricht hinzu:

'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:Die Paketliste oder die Statusdatei konnte nicht eingelesen oder geöffnet werden.

Wie könnte dieser Fehler behoben werden ohne das System neu aufzusetzen?

MfG

Chesoft

 

Holger Wansing | 3 Dec 2011 21:33
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Re: Probleme mit apt

Hello,

"Strato" <webmaster <at> chesoft.de> wrote:
> fehler:
> 
> Paketinformationen konnten nicht initialisiert werden.
> 
> Beim Initialisieren der Paketinformationen trat ein Problem auf, das nicht behoben werden konnte. 
> 
> Bitte erstellen Sie einen Fehlerbericht für das Paket »update-manager« und fügen Sie dort
folgende Fehlernachricht hinzu:
> 
> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList
/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages,
E:Die Paketliste oder die Statusdatei konnte nicht eingelesen oder geöffnet werden.
> 
> Wie könnte dieser Fehler behoben werden ohne das System neu aufzusetzen?

Diese Frage solltest du auf debian-user-german <at> lists.debian.org stellen.
debian-www ist die falsche Liste für solche Dinge.

You should ask this question on debian-user-german <at> lists.debian.org.
debian-www is the wrong list for such things.

Holger

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Alexander Reichle-Schmehl | 4 Dec 2011 10:56

Re: Probleme mit apt

Hi!

Am 03.12.2011 21:33, schrieb Holger Wansing:

>> Wie könnte dieser Fehler behoben werden ohne das System neu aufzusetzen?
> Diese Frage solltest du auf debian-user-german <at> lists.debian.org stellen.
> debian-www ist die falsche Liste für solche Dinge.
>
> You should ask this question on debian-user-german <at> lists.debian.org.
> debian-www is the wrong list for such things.

Apparently a side effect of some changes in the security archive 
introduced yesterday.  It's already being investigated.

Best regards,
   Alexander

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Alexander Reichle-Schmehl | 4 Dec 2011 11:26

Re: Probleme mit apt

Hi!

Am 04.12.2011 10:56, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl:
[ Problems with lenny security archive ]

> Apparently a side effect of some changes in the security archive
> introduced yesterday. It's already being investigated.

Should be solved now.

Best regards,
   Alexander


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