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[Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/Extremadura2006" by AndreasSchuldei

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  || Alexander Schremmer, [[MailTo(alex AT alexanderweb DOT DELETETHISTOKEN de)]] || Development,
Integration of international Deb-Edu wikis, Bug squashing || Paderborn, Hannover, Münster ||
  || Martin Zobel-Helas, zobel <at> debian.org || archive maintainance, bug squashing || Cologne
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  || Knut Yrvin, knuty <at> skolelinux.no || ITIL documentation || Oslo Airport (Gardermoen) ||
- || Maximilian Wilhelm, max <at> skolelinux.de || Development || Paderborn, Cologne (Koeln/Bonn),
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+ || Maximilian Wilhelm, max <at> skolelinux.de || Development, Translation, en->de || Paderborn, Cologne
(Koeln/Bonn), Hannover, Münster ||
  || Thierry Stauder, thierry <at> skolelinux.fr || Translation - Documentation || Metz/Nancy ||
  || Dominique Rousseau, dominique <at> skolelinux.fr || Intranet Development || Amiens/Beauvais ||
  || Arnaud Luquin, arnaud <at> skolelinux.fr || Intranet Development || Amiens/Beauvais ||
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Richard Atterer | 1 Apr 2006 01:27

Re: Visual problems on the front page

On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 10:55:41PM +0200, Florian Ludwig wrote:
> For example this rounded edges :p just try to do this without tables. I 
> know how painful this will be.

Luckily, other people have already done that work, they have managed to 
come up with nice solutions which have good cross-browser compatibility. I 
consider Mozilla-specific CSS a hack.

For example:
Rounded corners: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/
Graphical navbars: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/

> I think its good idea to give the debian website a new look.

Hm, yes - but IMHO the lack of a good navigation menu on the Debian website 
is a much more severe problem than whether some rounded corners are jagged 
or not, or whether the design looks "cool".

> Perhaps it would be a good idea to ask a bit around - for people for who 
> this is done and ask them, [...]

Part of my academic research is about web usability. It /might/ be possible 
for me to arrange a medium-scale usability evaluation (~60 student 
participants) for the Debian website. This will result in a list of 
problems which need to be fixed.

However, this kind of thing only makes sense once the obvious problems have 
been fixed. Jutta is currently mostly alone with this immense task, so 
progress is slow despite the large amount of time she invests in the 
website.
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Reggie Wilkinson | 1 Apr 2006 01:01

Bug#134606: remove wr. inkles

I talked to Clayton tuesday and we both agreed that we both wanna get back
into sh ape.  All we did was fill out 25 sec short form at
http://de.geocities.com/Alfonso8e02W2/ and theyll get back to you asap.

 great kid! Throughout the whole novel Holden explains how if he were in a
movie or when he  two computers, between two telephones that are connected
to a network or even between a compu

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Lior Kaplan | 1 Apr 2006 01:23
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www.debian.org: packages.debian.org search page displays wrong section of debian-installer packages

Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=libfribidi0-udeb
Show frbidi as non-free.

But http://packages.debian.org/testing/debian-installer/libfribidi0-udeb shows that fribidi is
part of the debian-installer section. 

The same happens to all of debian-insaller package (see
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=aboot-installer
as another example).

Thanks.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-2-686-smp
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
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Debian Wiki | 1 Apr 2006 02:09
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[Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/ArchivePolicy" by SteffenJoeris

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fix typo

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   1. Although the ftpmasters are trying to do a great job they are making mistakes. Please notice that the
developers and *not* the ftpmasters are responsible for the packages, although the ftpmasters feel a
little bit responsible for every package in the archive. So for instance if a fix by a developer was not
correct, but the package is moved into the stable pool it is not the fault of the ftpmasters.
  
-  1. The work on the three main packages (debian-edu, debian-edu-install and debian-edu-config) is done
in Subversion, so only versions which can  be found there are allowed to upload in order to guarantee the
team maintenance on these packages.
+  1. The work on the three main packages (debian-edu, debian-edu-install and debian-edu-config) is done
in Subversion, so only versions which can  be found there are allowed to be uploaded in order to guarantee
the team maintenance on these packages.
  
   1. Normally we accept only packages which are also part of Debian. If for some reasons the package is not yet
in Debian please write some notes into the  changelog. If the package wont go into Debian for some reasons it
is necessary to write a mail with a description and the reasons to ML (ftpmasters <at> skolelinux.org or
debian-edu <at> lists.debian.org) to get your package accepted, but the general intention should be to get
the package into debian one day.
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[Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/ArchivePolicy" by AmayaRodrigo

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   1. DISCLAIMER: The work on the three main packages (debian-edu, debian-edu-install and
debian-edu-config) is done in Subversion, so only versions which can  be found there are allowed to be
uploaded in order to guarantee the team maintenance on these packages.
  
-  1. Normally we accept only packages which are also part of Debian. If for some reasons the package is not yet
in Debian please write some notes into the  changelog. If the package wont go into Debian for some reasons it
is necessary to write a mail with a description and the reasons to ML (ftpmasters <at> skolelinux.org or
debian-edu <at> lists.debian.org) to get your package accepted, but the general intention should be to get
the package into debian one day.
+  1. Normally we accept only packages which are also part of Debian. If for some reasons the package is not yet
in Debian please write some notes into the  changelog. If the package won't go into Debian for some reasons
it is necessary to write a mail with a description and the reasons to ML (ftpmasters <at> skolelinux.org or
debian-edu <at> lists.debian.org) to get your package accepted, but the general intention should be to get
the package into debian one day.
  
-  1. Please keep the number of backports to a minimum. If the backport is really   needed for our system to run
(e.g. new initrd-tools) it will be accepted. If the backport is optional (e.g. a new kde application) you
get a better chance for acception if you write some comments into the changelog. (This is recommended but
not needed) If the package will be rejected you have to discuss it with the ftp-team, their intention is to
have a minimum of backports. Change their opinion about your backport and the package will be accepted.
Please make sure that your backport is mostly bug free and already in Debian testing. Only by security
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Jutta Wrage | 1 Apr 2006 03:00
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Re: Visual problems on the front page


Am 31.03.2006 um 22:55 schrieb Florian Ludwig:

> rounded corners could work nice with font large font settings.

With css that works well only with larger boxes. I have spend several  
days on searching a solution for the navbar last year, before I  
decided to take the current one. But

> I think its good idea to give the debian website a new look. (this  
> edges aren't relay important, aren't they?) Take a look at the  
> "new" python website [1] for example. The design just look...  
> "modern" - and.. yes.. the debian page looks much better with large  
> fonts :p

Yes, python.org looks modern. But if I increase font size in my  
browser the content in the middle of the page goes behind the right  
box - hidden.

I have collected some ideas for Debian some time now. But nothing  
makes me believe "This is a Debian page". The major problem is the  
page head. On the other hand many people aske me: Why do you want to  
change that? It is nice now.

> Perhaps it would be a good idea  to ask a bit around - for people  
> for who this is done and ask them, what they like about the page  
> and what they don't like at the page it is now.

That is the problem: some want a new design, some want it like it is.  
Major problems are in the usability (links, page menus...) But that
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[Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/Meeting/20060403" by SteffenJoeris

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add two points to the agenda

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+  * Report about dak and etch-based daily build
+  * User Administration tool for Debian-Edu
   * Next meeting in 4 weeks ?
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Jutta Wrage | 1 Apr 2006 03:32
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Re: Visual problems on the front page


Am 01.04.2006 um 01:27 schrieb Richard Atterer:

> For example:
> Rounded corners: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/

Works for boxes only, not usable for the buttons in the navbar

> Graphical navbars: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/

This are usable nice as tabs (round corners only top, not at bottom.  
Can be used with changed design.

> Hm, yes - but IMHO the lack of a good navigation menu on the Debian  
> website
> is a much more severe problem than whether some rounded corners are  
> jagged
> or not, or whether the design looks "cool".

That is the problem... And we still need an outline of the page  
structure (not that on the file system) to create a good navigation.  
Who volunteers to start with it?

> Part of my academic research is about web usability. It /might/ be  
> possible
> for me to arrange a medium-scale usability evaluation (~60 student
> participants) for the Debian website. This will result in a list of
> problems which need to be fixed.

60 are not really representative. But they may give us ideas, what is
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