Benj. Mako Hill | 1 Dec 11:28 2003
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Re: Demudi.org

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:02:06AM -0800, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:31:53PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> > One of the "flavors" linked to on 
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-nonprofit/ is www.demudi.org --
> > 
> > which is running IIS on Windows 2000!
> 
> If you'd gone to the site it would be evident that its host is having
> some problems anyway. I don't think it would appear to be running that
> if everything were working smoothly.

Indeed.

The more useful suggestion would be to remove the the link from the
page because the page is producing a nasty error message and not a
useful page -- not because we recognize the error message as coming
from a webserver we don't like.

I'm planning an update of the page in question with information about
the new Debian-NP bootable CD and some other news and updates which
I'll do as soon as CVS access returns. If the DeMuDi site is indeed
down for the count, we can remove the link with the next update.

In any case, this suggestion would have been better directed to
debian-www rather than to -devel.

Regards,
Mako

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Tom | 1 Dec 11:40 2003
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Re: Demudi.org

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:28:43AM +0100, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:02:06AM -0800, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:31:53PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> > > One of the "flavors" linked to on 
> > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-nonprofit/ is www.demudi.org --
> > > 
> > > which is running IIS on Windows 2000!
> > 
> > If you'd gone to the site it would be evident that its host is having
> > some problems anyway. I don't think it would appear to be running that
> > if everything were working smoothly.
> 

I said you'd grandstand :-)

> Indeed.
> 
> The more useful suggestion would be to remove the the link from the
> page because the page is producing a nasty error message and not a
> useful page -- not because we recognize the error message as coming
> from a webserver we don't like.
> 
> I'm planning an update of the page in question with information about
> the new Debian-NP bootable CD and some other news and updates which
> I'll do as soon as CVS access returns. If the DeMuDi site is indeed
> down for the count, we can remove the link with the next update.
> 
> In any case, this suggestion would have been better directed to
> debian-www rather than to -devel.
> 
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Alexander Kitzberger | 1 Dec 13:34 2003
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enterprise debian

Hello,
I'm a debian user since years and our company provides also professional 
services for debian. But debian has some disadvantages
if you look at other big distributions.

The big commercial distributions have lots of references and success 
storiy on their homepage. Their distributions are also certified for
software like oracle of certified for specific hardware.

I would like to start a debian sub-project called enterprise debian
or similar.

This project may be available unter www.debian.org/enterprise/

The goal of this project is to make administratirs feel more save in 
coosing debian. And it should help other ones to choose debian for 
enterprise applications.

I found out that other companies and people in my area
are thinking the same way.
On  the list there are also some people discussing that:

<http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0311/msg01346.html>

I talked to joey about this last month. He told me to write in this 
list. If there is anybody else who wants to support this idea,
feel free to contact me.

regards

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Brent Zeiben | 1 Dec 15:16 2003

Debian.org website

Hi, 

I'm not sure it this is happening to anybody else but for some reason
when I click on a link off of the main website debian.org the text in
the next page is in some other language than english.  The main page
shows up in english but the rest seem to load in another language. 

Regards,
Brent

Cheng | 2 Dec 19:16 2003
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A tiny mistake on homepage

Hello, webmaster

The following paragraph on homepage of www.debian.org,

"3.0r1" is supposed to be "3.0r2", I think this needs
to be corrected.

Getting Started

The latest stable release of Debian is 3.0r1. The last
update to this release was made on December 16th,
2002. Read more about available versions of Debian.

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Fabian Fagerholm | 3 Dec 09:21 2003
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The XHTML transition

Hi,

I read on the Debian Website development page about the intent to
eventually transition the www.debian.org web site to using XHTML. How
far has this effort come, and what would be the procedure to help with
this transition?

Cheers,
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Add (now) the DSA-403 to security.debian.org?

People might be looking for security.debian.org for more information on the 
latest published DSA but since CVS publishing is broken we cannot commit 
new information to it.

I have extracted the DSA, generated the .data and .wml files and compiled 
them in my local CVS copy. Unfortunately I don't have an up-to-date CVS 
copy and cannot regenerate the /security/index.en.html file. 

Depending on the ETA for gluck to come back up we could:

1.- wait for that and dismiss the messages complaining about the site not 
being up-to-date
2.- ask www.de.debian.org admins to publish two files (DSA+changed index) 
in the website.

The first file (DSA, sources and HTML) is attached. If anything, it saves
Josip the time of extracting the data from the DSA and adding the CVE
references by hand (since 'parse-advisory.pl' will not extract them
directly).

Regards

Javi

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Christoph Berg | 1 Dec 18:52 2003
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www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc

Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal

Hello,

www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc points to www.multimap.com to obtain
coordinates for the developer world map. The site no longer provides
this information, so I'd suggest dropping that link.

It might be possible to extract the coordinates from some fields in the
URL the site generates, but that seems non-trivial.

Unfortunately, I don't know of a good replacement.

Christoph
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Unknown | 3 Dec 14:34 2003

Re: The XHTML transition

On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:21:06AM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> I read on the Debian Website development page about the intent to
> eventually transition the www.debian.org web site to using XHTML. How
> far has this effort come, and what would be the procedure to help with
> this transition?

As far as I understand it (The last discussion on this topic happened
before I begun to work on the Debian web pages), there are three steps
in the XHTML transition:

1.) Conversion of all templates in english/templates/debian/ to XHTML
compatible WML code. I took care of this, only one or two commits are
missing and I will do them once I can access the CVS again.

2.) Conversion of _all_ other wml files to XHTML compatible WML code.
This isn't a trivial task. New code added to the english site is mostly
okay, but older pages are truely HTML, without any optional closing
tags. It is clear that this is a task that has to be automated, but I
haven't yet researched if there is a usable solution or if we have to
hack some script together. Note that we have to convert the WML code,
not the HTML code, so tidy or something like that will probably not
work. If you want to do some research in this area, go ahead.

3.) Passing the right flags to the wml calls, so it produces XHTML output
rather than HTML (e.g. it doesn't remove /> at the end of empty tags).
This is trivial, one has to make the decision and that's it.

[Disclaimer: I'm not a member of the official webmaster team 
(not even a DD).]

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Jordi Mallach | 3 Dec 15:33 2003
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Re: Who's using Debian?

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 05:54:11PM +0100, Kaare Olsen wrote:
> > > 1. Sindominio.net. Tratamos de construir un espacio en Internet que se
> > Do you need a translation?
> Yes, please.

I asked flow to translate it. Easier for me :)

> > I'm involved in this organization, so I guess I should help :)
> Is the submitted information in Spanish or Catalan?  (It seems Spanish to
> me, but I'm far from certain and don't want to step on any toes... :-) )

It was Spanish, yes.
How do submissions work currently? Is it ok to publish untranslated
submissions?

Jordi
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