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Yann Ricquebourg | 1 Jul 2003 12:07
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Better background on search results

Hello,

A simple mail just to signal a little mistake in the
generated HTML pages resulting from a Debian package search.

The serach page is:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

An example of the resulting search:
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=debian&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all

On the opposite of all the others pages, theses resulting pages do not
specifify the white background in their HTML code.
Therefore, since some browsers do not apply a white color by default
(mine apply grey)
- the color is not conform with the rest of the debian web site
- even worse, since the two logo-images at the top of the page
suppose to be on a white background, their frame is directly visible and not
very very nice...

So this was just an information to make things perfect by specifying a white
background even in thess pages !

-yann.
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Frank Lichtenheld | 1 Jul 2003 16:50
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Re: status update about packages.debian.org

On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 02:46:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > - The script needs much memory (200 to 300 MB for the
> >   unstable distribution) and is slow (but my computer has only 256 MB
> >   RAM, I can not really speak for swapless execution)
> >   Should I try to optimize it mainly for speed or for memory?
> 
> How long does it take to run?

During the last two days I tweaked it somewhat. It now needs ten
minutes on my Athlon 900 (512 MB RAM) for 'stable'. But it needs
up to 400 - 500 MB RAM during the run. (ca. 40-50% of the execution
time goes into whatever perl makes after my last command, I assume
it's calling desctructors and garbage collecting. If anyone knows a 
trick to free the memory more "rude", I will happy to hear it ;)

I can not say how much it scales for the unstable distribution with
all the translations, because it needs approx. 600 MB RAM and so most
of the time goes to swapping on my comp. (haven't had time to run it
completly yet, but I estimate two to three hours for unstable on my comp atm)

I know that there is much redundant data, so I will try to reduce the
memory requirements but this will surely result in a (hopefully small)
speed penalty.

Gruesse,
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Frank Lichtenheld | 1 Jul 2003 16:55
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Re: status update about packages.debian.org

On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 01:58:30PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:53:09AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > Hmm, I have to show the difference between "package foo, arch bar does
> > depend on any version of this" and "package foo, arch bar does _not_ depend on
> > this"
> > Currently this is shown by "any version" and "--".
> > Do you think "" and "--" will suffice or have you a suggestion for
> > the second case, too?
> 
> Well, how about explicating the other one (i.e. "doesn't depend on this")?
> Or, well, reorganizing the display so that it only shows those that do
> depend, and omits those that don't, which would seem the most logical choice
> to start with?

I've quickly hacked something together to get a feeling for what you
mean. Please look at 
http://fachschaft.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/~frank/packages/test/44bsd-rdist.en.html
and tell me if that's like what you had in mind. 
(It's just a concept, so please no nitpicking.)

Gruesse,
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Colin Watson | 1 Jul 2003 20:08
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Re: status update about packages.debian.org

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 04:50:22PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 02:46:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > > - The script needs much memory (200 to 300 MB for the
> > >   unstable distribution) and is slow (but my computer has only 256 MB
> > >   RAM, I can not really speak for swapless execution)
> > >   Should I try to optimize it mainly for speed or for memory?
> > 
> > How long does it take to run?
> 
> During the last two days I tweaked it somewhat. It now needs ten
> minutes on my Athlon 900 (512 MB RAM) for 'stable'. But it needs
> up to 400 - 500 MB RAM during the run. (ca. 40-50% of the execution
> time goes into whatever perl makes after my last command, I assume
> it's calling desctructors and garbage collecting. If anyone knows a 
> trick to free the memory more "rude", I will happy to hear it ;)

Perhaps make sure you've flushed all I/O handles and then
POSIX::_exit(0)?

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Josip Rodin | 1 Jul 2003 20:52
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Re: status update about packages.debian.org

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 04:55:56PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > > Hmm, I have to show the difference between "package foo, arch bar does
> > > depend on any version of this" and "package foo, arch bar does _not_ depend on
> > > this"
> > > Currently this is shown by "any version" and "--".
> > > Do you think "" and "--" will suffice or have you a suggestion for
> > > the second case, too?
> > 
> > Well, how about explicating the other one (i.e. "doesn't depend on this")?
> > Or, well, reorganizing the display so that it only shows those that do
> > depend, and omits those that don't, which would seem the most logical choice
> > to start with?
> 
> I've quickly hacked something together to get a feeling for what you
> mean. Please look at 
> http://fachschaft.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/~frank/packages/test/44bsd-rdist.en.html
> and tell me if that's like what you had in mind. 
> (It's just a concept, so please no nitpicking.)

Well, then the answer is: maybe. :)

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Teófilo Ruiz Suárez | 1 Jul 2003 21:13
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Getting into the webwml group

Hi *

I'm coordinating the debian-installer traslation into Spanish and I want to
modify a couple of pages in Spanish regularly. Moreover, I'm going to help
in many other translations, translating by myself and uploading
translations from others. 

So, I'd like to be in the webwml group to get write access in there :)

Thanks.
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Marcin Owsiany | 2 Jul 2003 01:41
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www.d.o/international/ should note debconf templates

Package: www.debian.org
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-02
Severity: minor

Debconf templates' translation also seems to be coordinated through
ddtp.d.o

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux melina 2.4.20-3-k7 #1 Sun Jun 8 01:35:14 EST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=pl_PL, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL
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Frank Lichtenheld | 2 Jul 2003 01:12
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Re: status update about packages.debian.org

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 07:08:11PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 04:50:22PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 02:46:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > How long does it take to run?
> > 
> > During the last two days I tweaked it somewhat. It now needs ten
> > minutes on my Athlon 900 (512 MB RAM) for 'stable'. But it needs
> > up to 400 - 500 MB RAM during the run. (ca. 40-50% of the execution
> > time goes into whatever perl makes after my last command, I assume
> > it's calling desctructors and garbage collecting. If anyone knows a 
> > trick to free the memory more "rude", I will happy to hear it ;)
> 
> Perhaps make sure you've flushed all I/O handles and then
> POSIX::_exit(0)?

That's it! Down to 4 minutes :)

Thanks,
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Peter Karlsson | 2 Jul 2003 07:07
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Cannot search packages

Using the http://packages.debian.org/something alias now returns an
error:

   Forbidden

   You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/search_packages2.pl on
   this server.

The script is a symlink, perhaps the server is not set up to allow
symlinks in that directory?

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Matt Kraai | 2 Jul 2003 06:56
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Re: Better background on search results

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:07:20PM +0200, Yann Ricquebourg wrote:
> A simple mail just to signal a little mistake in the
> generated HTML pages resulting from a Debian package search.
> 
> The serach page is:
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
> 
> An example of the resulting search:
> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=debian&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all
> 
> On the opposite of all the others pages, theses resulting pages do not
> specifify the white background in their HTML code.
> Therefore, since some browsers do not apply a white color by default
> (mine apply grey)
> - the color is not conform with the rest of the debian web site
> - even worse, since the two logo-images at the top of the page
> suppose to be on a white background, their frame is directly visible and not
> very very nice...
> 
> So this was just an information to make things perfect by specifying a white
> background even in thess pages !

Done, thanks.

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