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Anthony DeRobertis | 1 Jul 2003 07:07

Re: List of all votes cast in recent amendment?

On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 13:29, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> 	It has been listed on http://www.debian.org/vote/

Hmmm, of course I'd fail to look in one of the most obvious places. My
appologies.

> 	Note that the consttution does not mandate that the list of
>  votes be posted to any specific mailing list.

No, it doesn't, but I guess I expected to see it here since nearly all
other discussion related to this vote was posted here, as were the
results.
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Jochen Voss | 1 Jul 2003 09:48
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Re: List of all votes cast in recent amendment?

Hello,

On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:29:42PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:50:22 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis <asd <at> suespammers.org> said: 
> 
> > Under the Debian Constitution, section 4.2(3), "after the vote the
> > Project Secretary lists all the votes cast." (This is different than
> > DPL elections, which are kept secret under 5.2(5))
> 
> 	It has been listed on http://www.debian.org/vote/
Only now I notice that the tally sheet makes all the votes public.
Is this by accident again or was this the plan this time?

Also the text on http://www.debian.org/vote/2003/vote_0002 states

    Additionally, the list of people for the election is available,
    complete with tokens so that the voters may check their votes were
    tallied.

but there are no tokens in the list.  (Well checking is easy if the
votes are public anyway).

Jochen
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Manoj Srivastava | 1 Jul 2003 16:25
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Re: List of all votes cast in recent amendment?

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:48:09 +0200, Jochen Voss <jvoss2 <at> web.de> said: 

> Hello,
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:29:42PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:50:22 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis
>> <asd <at> suespammers.org> said:
>>
>> > Under the Debian Constitution, section 4.2(3), "after the vote
>> > the Project Secretary lists all the votes cast." (This is
>> > different than DPL elections, which are kept secret under 5.2(5))
>>
>> It has been listed on http://www.debian.org/vote/

> Only now I notice that the tally sheet makes all the votes public.
> Is this by accident again or was this the plan this time?

	Why would you think this was an accident?

> Also the text on http://www.debian.org/vote/2003/vote_0002 states

>     Additionally, the list of people for the election is available,
>     complete with tokens so that the voters may check their votes
>     were tallied.

> but there are no tokens in the list.  (Well checking is easy if the
> votes are public anyway).

	How would the tokens help in any way for this vote? 

	manoj
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Jochen Voss | 2 Jul 2003 09:51
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Re: List of all votes cast in recent amendment?

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:25:18AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > Only now I notice that the tally sheet makes all the votes public.
> > Is this by accident again or was this the plan this time?
> 
> 	Why would you think this was an accident?
Sorry, I remembered that the 2001 DPL election votes were
published by mistake.  But now I see that this applies only
to DPL elections (constitution, section 5.2.5).

Thank you,
Jochen
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Chad Walstrom | 13 Jul 2003 01:56
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voting software...

I was wondering from where I could download the voting software we use.

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Manoj Srivastava | 13 Jul 2003 05:37
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Re: voting software...

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:56:30 -0500, Chad Walstrom <chewie <at> debian.org>
said:  
> I was wondering from where I could download the voting software we
> use.

	master.debian.org, /org/vote.debian.org/bin/ has all the gory
 details. Unfortunately, devotee is not yet polished enough to be
 packaged (all these programs need man pages, for example, and there
 needs be a man page for the configuration file, examples of
 configuration files for secret and non secret ballots, and the design
 document needs to be fleshed out and updated. 

	manoj
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