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Debian Project Secretary | 1 Feb 2003 03:59
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Re: Debian Project Leader Elections


Hi,

        We are one week into the nomination period for candidates for
 the position of the Debian Project Leader. The Nomination period this
 year starts today, 2003/01/24, and shall end on 2003/02/14 0:0:0
 UTC. Voting shall start on March 7th (2003/03/07 0:0:0 UTC), and
 shall end on 2003/03/28 0:0:0 UTC.

        Prospective leaders should be familiar with the constitution,
 but, just to review: there's a three week period when interested
 developers nominate themselves, followed by a three week period with
 no nominations [intended for campaigning], followed by three weeks
 for the election itself.

	I intend to collect platform statements from the candidates,
 and publish them on a known location (somewhere under
 www.debian.org/vote). The candidate platforms shall be published on
 2003/02/15, and rebuttals shall be published on 2003/02/21.

        I suggest that the candidates send the platform, preferably in
 HTML/SGML, to the secretary at least a couple of days before the
 publication date.

	This year, there is going to be a story on
 http://www.debianplanet.org/ where users shall be asked to submit
 questions that the panelists at the DPL debate may select from to put
 before the candidates; allowing for some end user input into the
 debate. Candidates may wish to peruse the story to see if there are
 things that they may need to put together their platform.
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Bdale Garbee | 1 Feb 2003 19:02

DPL Nomination


With this message, I announce my intention to seek re-election as 
Debian Project Leader.

Bdale
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Branden Robinson | 2 Feb 2003 23:58
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QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

[Reply-To is set.  This message is written with the intention of
soliciting private replies; however, if you want to reply to debian-vote
as well, go ahead.]

Hi folks,

As has happened at least twice in the past, I am wrestling with the
decision of whether or not to declare myself as a candidate for Debian
Project Leader.  Several people have exhorted me to run again this year,
but the fact that I have run unsuccessfully twice before also tells me
that this is not a universally-held position.  :)

It has occurred to me that this is not a decision I should make in a
vacuum.  You, the Debian Developers and enfranchisees -- more simply,
the voters -- can help me to make this decision, and help me to be a
better DPL should I run and win.

To that end, I am soliciting specific feedback by means of the
questionnaire below.  If you have perspectives and opinions you would
like to communicate to me on the subjects addressed below, please reply
to me privately and GPG-sign your message.  If you wish, you may also
GPG-encrypt the message to me.  I will not disregard replies that are
sent only to this list (or some other forum of which I'm aware), or
which are not GPG-signed, but I will give them less weight.  The Debian
Project Leader is elected by Debian Developers, and must serve and
represent Debian Developers.  The opinions of people outside the
Project -- who are not (or not yet) Debian Developers must necessarily
weigh less.  If you want to fill out and send me this questionnaire and
you are not a Debian Developer, please explain your affiliation with the
Debian Project.  For instance, the opinions of New Maintainer applicants
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Martin Michlmayr | 3 Feb 2003 14:44

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

* Branden Robinson <branden <at> debian.org> [2003-02-02 17:58]:
> To that end, I am soliciting specific feedback by means of the
> questionnaire below.  If you have perspectives and opinions you
> would like to communicate to me on the subjects addressed below,
> please reply to me privately and GPG-sign your message.

I hope you can post a summary.  I found many questions very
interesting since you touch the question of the role of the DPL.
I think it would be interesting for other candidates (and for the
community as a whole) to hear what people expect from the DPL.

--

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Martin Michlmayr
tbm <at> cyrius.com
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Rune B. Broberg | 3 Feb 2003 14:51
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Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 05:58:40PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> 1.  Rank the following possible functions of Debian Project Leader in
[snip - ranking system]
> 
>     [ 2 ] attending trade shows and conferences
>     [ 1 ] resolving disputes internal to the Project
>     [ 2 ] representing Debian to trade associations, businesses and NGOs
>           (non-governmental organizations)
>     [ 2 ] drafting and implementing internal procedures for the Project
>           that aren't already well-defined
>     [ 1 ] appointing delegates per the Constitution
>     [   ] fixing bugs in packages that no one else will fix
>     [ 3 ] cash fundraising
>     [ 3 ] acquiring donations of bandwidth, equipment, and hosting
>     [ 4 ] mentoring other developers
> 
>     Comments:

Letting the CTTE/others resolve disputes where applicable, procedure
definitions shouldn't be made by the DPL alone, but perhaps by a
delegated committee (or such)

> 
> 2.  Rank the following past and present DPLs in order of greatest
>     Comments (why did you rank these people as you did?):

No experience with any DPLs except bdale...

> 3.  True or false: the New Maintainer system is still broken.
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Gergely Nagy | 3 Feb 2003 14:53
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Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

[Reposted to -vote, so interesting parties, such as other
maybe-DPL-candidates can benefit from my answers, or have a good laugh
at my ignorance, etc, etc, appropriate thing should be underlined.

By the way, I would be interested in what other people answered, so
please Cc the list too!]

> 1.  Rank the following possible functions of Debian Project Leader in
>     order from most important to least important by placing a digit
>     between the brackets to the left of the item.  Use "1" as the most
>     important item(s), with larger integers reflecting less important
>     items.  You can give two items the same number to reflect a tie.
>     Leave blank items you consider unimportant or not appropriate for
>     the role of DPL.
> 
>     [  3] attending trade shows and conferences
>     [  2] resolving disputes internal to the Project
>     [  1] representing Debian to trade associations, businesses and NGOs
>           (non-governmental organizations)
>     [  2] drafting and implementing internal procedures for the Project
>           that aren't already well-defined
>     [  2] appointing delegates per the Constitution
>     [  9] fixing bugs in packages that no one else will fix
>     [  9] cash fundraising
>     [  4] acquiring donations of bandwidth, equipment, and hosting
>     [  9] mentoring other developers

> 2.  Rank the following past and present DPLs in order of greatest
>     effectiveness to least effectiveness (use "1" for the most effective
>     leader(s)).  You need not have been a Debian Developer during the
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Sam Hartman | 3 Feb 2003 15:33
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Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Michlmayr <tbm <at> cyrius.com> writes:

    Martin> * Branden Robinson <branden <at> debian.org> [2003-02-02
    Martin> 17:58]:
    >> To that end, I am soliciting specific feedback by means of the
    >> questionnaire below.  If you have perspectives and opinions you
    >> would like to communicate to me on the subjects addressed
    >> below, please reply to me privately and GPG-sign your message.

    Martin> I hope you can post a summary.  I found many questions
    Martin> very interesting since you touch the question of the role
    Martin> of the DPL.  I think it would be interesting for other
    Martin> candidates (and for the community as a whole) to hear what
    Martin> people expect from the DPL.

I agree with this.  I'd also like to see other candidates publically
answer a version of this questionnaire that had the Branden-specific
bits removed.

I found answering the questionnaire a thought-provoking experience.
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Branden Robinson | 3 Feb 2003 17:31
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Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:44:37PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I hope you can post a summary.  I found many questions very
> interesting since you touch the question of the role of the DPL.
> I think it would be interesting for other candidates (and for the
> community as a whole) to hear what people expect from the DPL.

It is my intention to post a summary.  I didn't address this point in
the original mail because I wasn't even sure very many people would
reply.  But so far response has been very positive (in that people are
responding, and offering a lot in the way of comments) so I am hopeful
that over the coming week or so I will eventually gather a fairly decent
sample.

Originally I planned to incorporate whatever feedback I received into my
Platform, but now I'm less sure that's the right way to go.  I think we
should be having discussions about some of the issues I raised in the
questionnaire (note that -project is the proper list for such things),
especially since there are some interesting differences and confluences
of opinion in the Project that I wasn't quite expecting to see.

One hazard I can see with incorporating a summary into my Platform
(<AlGore>should I decide to run</AlGore>) is that people might
incorrectly extrapolate from my personal positions to a majority of the
questionnaire feedback.  That would be a reckless assumption because I
reserve the right to disagree with the majority of Debian Developers.
:)  (If I do so with respect to many issues, though, it's probably not
worth running for DPL.)

The hazard with not incorporating a summary into my Platform is that
people may assume that I'm trying to give the impression that the
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Andreas Schuldei | 3 Feb 2003 18:32

Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

* Branden Robinson (branden <at> debian.org) [030203 17:05a:

I find your questions relevant to the overall understanding of
the debian project and the position of the DPL. I wish we would
see discussion on this and i propose to discuss this at debconf
in some form or an other in great(er) depth.

> 1.  Rank the following possible functions of Debian Project Leader in
>     order from most important to least important by placing a digit
>     between the brackets to the left of the item.  Use "1" as the most
>     important item(s), with larger integers reflecting less important
>     items.  You can give two items the same number to reflect a tie.
>     Leave blank items you consider unimportant or not appropriate for
>     the role of DPL.
> 
>     [ 60  ] attending trade shows and conferences
>     [ 10  ] resolving disputes internal to the Project
>     [ 51  ] representing Debian to trade associations, businesses and NGOs
>           (non-governmental organizations)
>     [ 3  ] drafting and implementing internal procedures for the Project
>           that aren't already well-defined
>     [ 50  ] appointing delegates per the Constitution
>     [ 1000  ] fixing bugs in packages that no one else will fix
>     [ 53  ] cash fundraising
>     [ 52  ] acquiring donations of bandwidth, equipment, and hosting
>     [ 1  ] mentoring other developers
> 
>     Comments: 

I try to reflect my opinion that your choices represent totally
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David N. Welton | 3 Feb 2003 19:05
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Re: QUESTIONNAIRE: Debian Project Leadership

Andreas Schuldei <andreas <at> schuldei.org> writes:

> > 19. Should decisions about DFSG-compliance be made on the
> > debian-legal list, or should we have a more formalized body for
> > making such decisions?

> debian legal has the experts, they should know and feel responsible
> and decide

Since when are they 'experts'?  Frankly, I want to see some law
degrees, or the equivalent work experience in the legal field, before
I start listening to most of those people.

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