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Norbert Preining | 1 Jul 2009 02:32
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Re: TeX Gyre Fonts, ftp-master email

On Di, 30 Jun 2009, Ralf Stubner wrote:
> > - cyrillic character by Valek Filippov
> > - Vietnamese characters by Han The Thanh
> > 
> > So the question is under which license fall the other chars.
> 
> Both Valek Filippov and Han The Thanh have released their work under
> GNU GPL. This has not changed by the additional license under which

Anyway, this will be resolved, too, private communications.

So I guess we have to wait for the next release of TeX Gyre and that
will be it. There is movement in this area.

> of TeX Gyre Fonts is not good if one wants to be *strict* with
> licenses. It is ok if one allows for a certain degree of fuzziness. I
> am not in the position to decide what is the right thing to do here.

;-) As Viennese, I am for fuzzyness (and as one working in many-valued
logics even more).

As I said, it is anyway irrelevant.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Norbert Preining | 1 Jul 2009 02:33
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Re: 5-year-old-bug - proposed-updates for lenny

Lenny users might want to test
	deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ proposed-updates/
which contains the already uploaded plus the soon to be uploaded fixes
for the 5-year-old-bug.

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Norbert

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Paul Wise | 1 Jul 2009 09:00
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give back texinfo on powerpc

Hi,

Looks like texinfo needs a giveback on powerpc, it has been in state
building for 20 days:

https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?p=texinfo

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Norbert Preining | 1 Jul 2009 15:06
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Re: give back texinfo on powerpc

On Mi, 01 Jul 2009, Paul Wise wrote:
> Looks like texinfo needs a giveback on powerpc, it has been in state
> building for 20 days:

I have seen that, but is there something *I* as maintainer can do?

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Paul Wise | 1 Jul 2009 15:11
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Re: give back texinfo on powerpc

On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 15:06 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Mi, 01 Jul 2009, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Looks like texinfo needs a giveback on powerpc, it has been in state
> > building for 20 days:
> 
> I have seen that, but is there something *I* as maintainer can do?

Contact the powerpc buildd maintainer (as I have just done) and if they
don't do anything then the wanna-build team can likely do something:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-wb-team/

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Wouter Verhelst | 1 Jul 2009 15:23
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Re: give back texinfo on powerpc

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:11:04PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 15:06 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > On Mi, 01 Jul 2009, Paul Wise wrote:
> > > Looks like texinfo needs a giveback on powerpc, it has been in state
> > > building for 20 days:
> > 
> > I have seen that, but is there something *I* as maintainer can do?
> 
> Contact the powerpc buildd maintainer (as I have just done) and if they
> don't do anything

The build attempt was on praetorius, which is Philipp's responsibility.
I'm sure he'll look into it when he gets to his mail.

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Philipp Kern | 1 Jul 2009 17:12
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Re: give back texinfo on powerpc

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:11:04PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 15:06 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > > On Mi, 01 Jul 2009, Paul Wise wrote:
> > > > Looks like texinfo needs a giveback on powerpc, it has been in state
> > > > building for 20 days:
> > > I have seen that, but is there something *I* as maintainer can do?
> > Contact the powerpc buildd maintainer (as I have just done) and if they
> > don't do anything
> The build attempt was on praetorius, which is Philipp's responsibility.
> I'm sure he'll look into it when he gets to his mail.

Botched mirror again.  We really need sbuild fixed.  And yes, please contact
$arch <at> buildd.d.o in this case.

I gave it back now, thanks.

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern
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Hilmar Preusse | 1 Jul 2009 18:18
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Bug#533796: texlive-bin: non-standard gcc/g++ used for build (gcc-4.2)

On 30.06.09 Riku Voipio (riku.voipio <at> iki.fi) wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:11:46PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:

Hi,

> > > We got #533796, cause we build texlive-bin on armel using gcc
> > > 4.2 instead of 4.3.  This was once done cause of a bug in gcc
> > > 4.3 (see #483939).  Do you know if the problem is solved in
> > > recent gcc versions?  Also could you drop us a note if the
> > > mentioned bug was reported to the DBTS and which # it is?
> 
> > Sorry, I don't know. I'm CCing one of the armel porters, in case
> > he's aware what bug was causing texlive-bin to FTBFS on that
> > architecture back in the day
> 
> A quick test shows that texlive-bin still FTBFS's with gcc-4.3, but
> builds fine with gcc-4.4.  You could switch from to gcc-4.4 on
> armel for now, and drop the special case when gcc-4.4 becomes the
> default compiler.
> 
Thanks for testing!

We could fix it in the next upload, fix should be similar to commit
r3398. Norbert, should I do so?

Hilmar
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Ralf Stubner | 1 Jul 2009 21:59
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Re: TeX Gyre Fonts, ftp-master email

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 02:32 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Di, 30 Jun 2009, Ralf Stubner wrote:
> > > - cyrillic character by Valek Filippov
> > > - Vietnamese characters by Han The Thanh
> > > 
> > > So the question is under which license fall the other chars.
> > 
> > Both Valek Filippov and Han The Thanh have released their work under
> > GNU GPL. This has not changed by the additional license under which
> 
> Anyway, this will be resolved, too, private communications.
> 
> So I guess we have to wait for the next release of TeX Gyre and that
> will be it. There is movement in this area.

Ok, that sounds good.

> > of TeX Gyre Fonts is not good if one wants to be *strict* with
> > licenses. It is ok if one allows for a certain degree of fuzziness. I
> > am not in the position to decide what is the right thing to do here.
> 
> ;-) As Viennese, I am for fuzzyness (and as one working in many-valued
> logics even more).

:-)

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Frank Küster | 1 Jul 2009 22:04
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Bug#533796: texlive-bin: non-standard gcc/g++ used for build (gcc-4.2)

Hilmar Preusse <hille42 <at> web.de> wrote:

> On 30.06.09 Riku Voipio (riku.voipio <at> iki.fi) wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:11:46PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> > > We got #533796, cause we build texlive-bin on armel using gcc
>> > > 4.2 instead of 4.3.  This was once done cause of a bug in gcc
>> > > 4.3 (see #483939).  Do you know if the problem is solved in
>> > > recent gcc versions?  Also could you drop us a note if the
>> > > mentioned bug was reported to the DBTS and which # it is?
>> 
>> > Sorry, I don't know. I'm CCing one of the armel porters, in case
>> > he's aware what bug was causing texlive-bin to FTBFS on that
>> > architecture back in the day
>> 
>> A quick test shows that texlive-bin still FTBFS's with gcc-4.3, but
>> builds fine with gcc-4.4.  You could switch from to gcc-4.4 on
>> armel for now, and drop the special case when gcc-4.4 becomes the
>> default compiler.
>> 
> Thanks for testing!
>
> We could fix it in the next upload, fix should be similar to commit
> r3398. Norbert, should I do so?

Yes, I suggest to go ahead. 

Regards, Frank
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