Re: experimental tex-common packages with triggers support

Hi,

Norbert Preining wrote:

> I have uploaded tex-common 1.12 to experimental. This release contains
> triggers support. But as long as packages shipping updmap.d and
> language.d files are rebuild we wont profit.

That's great, but I'm wondering whether this also includes trigger
support for mktexlsr?  Also, will this be in lenny?

cheers,

Michael

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From: Frank Küster <frank <at> debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#488707: ps4pdf.sty missing
Date: 2008-07-01 20:08:01 GMT

Dear TeX Live team,

Re: experimental tex-common packages with triggers support

On 01.07.08 Michael Banck (mbanck <at> debian.org) wrote:
> Norbert Preining wrote:

Hi,

> > I have uploaded tex-common 1.12 to experimental. This release
> > contains triggers support. But as long as packages shipping
> > updmap.d and language.d files are rebuild we wont profit.
> 
> That's great, but I'm wondering whether this also includes trigger
> support for mktexlsr?
> 
IIRC Norbert decided not to implement triggers for mktexlsr for now,
as the command does not need that much system resources.

> Also, will this be in lenny?
> 
It is in experimental now. How much time needs a package to be in
experimental until one can consider it is good enough for unstable?
How many users do we have for the new version? Can we assume from the
not appearing bug reports, that the package is stable?

H.
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Re: experimental tex-common packages with triggers support

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 05:19:47PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
> On 01.07.08 Michael Banck (mbanck <at> debian.org) wrote:
> > Norbert Preining wrote:
> > > I have uploaded tex-common 1.12 to experimental. This release
> > > contains triggers support. But as long as packages shipping
> > > updmap.d and language.d files are rebuild we wont profit.
> > 
> > That's great, but I'm wondering whether this also includes trigger
> > support for mktexlsr?
> > 
> IIRC Norbert decided not to implement triggers for mktexlsr for now,
> as the command does not need that much system resources.

Hrm, my mail was mainly motivated by the gprolog build on the Debian
GNU/Hurd buildd.  It installed half/all of texlive, failed very early in
configure, and removed all of it.  It took more then 24 *hours* to do
that, and as I saw those "mktexlsr" messages for most of that time, I
assumed that was the culprit, maybe.  It could be that mktexslr does
something which turns out to be pathological on hurd-i386 only.

> > Also, will this be in lenny?
> > 
> It is in experimental now. How much time needs a package to be in
> experimental until one can consider it is good enough for unstable?
> How many users do we have for the new version? Can we assume from the
> not appearing bug reports, that the package is stable?

Well, the usual rules for experimental apply - few people use it unless

Re: experimental tex-common packages with triggers support

Michael Banck <mbanck <at> debian.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 05:19:47PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
>> On 01.07.08 Michael Banck (mbanck <at> debian.org) wrote:
>> > Norbert Preining wrote:
>> > > I have uploaded tex-common 1.12 to experimental. This release
>> > > contains triggers support. But as long as packages shipping
>> > > updmap.d and language.d files are rebuild we wont profit.
>> > 
>> > That's great, but I'm wondering whether this also includes trigger
>> > support for mktexlsr?
>> > 
>> IIRC Norbert decided not to implement triggers for mktexlsr for now,
>> as the command does not need that much system resources.
>
> Hrm, my mail was mainly motivated by the gprolog build on the Debian
> GNU/Hurd buildd.  It installed half/all of texlive, failed very early in
> configure, and removed all of it.  It took more then 24 *hours* to do
> that, and as I saw those "mktexlsr" messages for most of that time, I
> assumed that was the culprit, maybe.  It could be that mktexslr does
> something which turns out to be pathological on hurd-i386 only.

Didn't it call updmap, too?  That takes much more time than
mktexlsr. Format generation is also rather slow.

> Well, the usual rules for experimental apply - few people use it unless
> really pushed for it.  If you did not get any feedback, assuming that
> everything is fine is not warranted.  On the other hand, as I guess you

Bug#482915: texlive-doc-en: No license info for some fontinst documentation

Norbert Preining <preining <at> logic.at> wrote:

> On Mi, 25 Jun 2008, Frank Küster wrote:
>> Can you take the opportunity to show me how to find out myself why this
>> is not copied to Master/texmf-dist/doc/fontinst/?
>
> Why, because we (Karl, me, whoever) didn't include it into the TeX Live
> repository? I am not sure what you mean with "show me ...". 

I thought that there is an automatic way of updating texmf trees from
CTAN?  Don't your scripts check whether anything has been uploaded to
CTAN:/tex-archive/fonts/utilities/fontinst/doc?  And if they to, how do
you exclude the talks directory?  And if they do not - there are some
automatic updates, aren't there - why is this part not covered?

Regards, Frank
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Bug#487630: fmtutil-sys failed

subhuman <discipline <at> gmx.net> wrote:

> hi norbert,
>
> first of all thx for your quick reply.
>
> i followed your recommendation and reinstalled texlive-base - after
> which the first bug had disappeared. the second bug:
>> `omega -ini  -jobname=omega -progname=omega omega.ini' failed
> resulted from the package texlive-omega not being installed. after
> i had installed it everything went fine. so in the end the problem
> reduces to one of the package maintainer...

We are the maintainer for all texlive packages, so that should concern
us. Can you please post the result of 

ls /etc/texmf/fmt.d/

There seems to be some omega stuff in there which causes the
"dependency" on texlive-omega.

Regards, Frank

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Bug#487630: fmtutil-sys failed

ls -la /etc/texmf/fmt.d/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  352 2008-06-26 11:07 .
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root  648 2008-06-26 11:04 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 3704 2005-05-06 02:53 00tetex.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1364 2008-04-16 22:01 00tex.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  870 2008-06-24 08:59 10texlive-base.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  844 2008-05-09 09:59 10texlive-formats-extra.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  445 2008-04-22 19:22 10texlive-latex-base.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  514 2008-06-12 20:08 10texlive-omega.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  420 2008-06-01 17:27 10texlive-xetex.cnf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  565 2005-10-31 13:40 50cyrtexinfo.cnf

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:51:33 +0200
Frank Küster <frank <at> debian.org> wrote:

> subhuman <discipline <at> gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> We are the maintainer for all texlive packages, so that should concern
> us. Can you please post the result of 
> 
> ls /etc/texmf/fmt.d/
> 
> There seems to be some omega stuff in there which causes the
> "dependency" on texlive-omega.
> 
> Regards, Frank
> 
> 
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