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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 14:29
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SVN texlive commit: r1965 - in texlive/trunk: . addons-per-source

Author: frank
Date: 2006-12-01 14:29:12 +0100 (Fri, 01 Dec 2006)
New Revision: 1965

Modified:
   texlive/trunk/CHANGES.packaging
   texlive/trunk/addons-per-source/texlive-bin.changelog
   texlive/trunk/tpm2deb.cfg
Log:
Add Conflicts of tl-omega on the aleph package (#400930)

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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 14:57
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Re: Mapping of teTeX files to TeXLive packages

"Kevin B. McCarty" <kmccarty <at> Princeton.EDU> wrote:

> I must confess that I completely missed this, probably for two reasons:
> a) there was no reference about where to find the TDS, and b) in part
> because of (a), it isn't obvious from the text that the TDS does not
> just refer to the list of "the following TEXMF trees" immediately below.

The TDS is introduced in the "Terms and Definitions" chapter.  But you
are right, we should reorganize this.

> One big help would be to include a URL to the TDS in the paragraph
> quoted above.  I don't know if it's available in HTML format.  Even if
> it isn't, a pointer would still be very helpful, for instance "The TDS
> is available in the texlive-doc-en package and the tetex-doc package; it
> may be viewed by running 'texdoc tds' if one of these packages is
> installed."

I have now commited the following patch, which moves the TDS stuff to
the subsection about File searching instead of TEXMF trees.  What do you
think about it?

       <heading>File Placement</heading>
       <p>
       This chapter describes the placement of TeX input files, so that
-      they can be found by programs.  Files that are not TeX input
-      files must not be put in a TEXMF tree (put them into
+      they can be found by programs.  Files that are not input files
+      for TeX or related programs must not be put in a TEXMF tree (put
+      them into
       <file>/usr/share/≤var>package</var></file> instead).  As an
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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 14:42
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SVN texlive commit: r1966 - in texlive/trunk: . addons-per-source

Author: frank
Date: 2006-12-01 14:42:38 +0100 (Fri, 01 Dec 2006)
New Revision: 1966

Modified:
   texlive/trunk/addons-per-source/texlive-bin.changelog
   texlive/trunk/tpm2deb.cfg
   texlive/trunk/tpm2deb.pl
Log:
- fix typo in tpm2deb.cfg
- final version number
- make tpm2deb.pl error message more verbose

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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 14:51
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SVN tex-common commit: r1967 - tex-common/trunk/doc

Author: frank
Date: 2006-12-01 14:51:53 +0100 (Fri, 01 Dec 2006)
New Revision: 1967

Modified:
   tex-common/trunk/doc/Debian-TeX-Policy.sgml
Log:
an attempt to make TDS more visible to packagers

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Norbert Preining | 1 Dec 2006 15:15
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Re: Bug#400597: Please also depend on texlive as an alternative to tetex

Hi all!

On Fre, 01 Dez 2006, uphr <at> stud.uni-karlsruhe.de wrote:
> hi Norbert - I'm CC'ing you because this is about the "alternative 
> dependency on tetex and texlive" issue.

No problem, only that I am in Vietnam and not very good connected, and
no chance to do any devel work. Better is to ALWAYS!!! Cc the right
list:
	debian-tex-maint <at> lists.debian.org

> 
> Zitat von Roberto Suarez Soto <turgon <at> debian.org>:
> >On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 03:17:11PM +0100, uphr <at> stud.uni-karlsruhe.de wrote:
> >
> >>I guess cdcover can be used with the texlive TeX distribution as well
> >>as with TeTeX.  As texlive is in Debian (and TeTeX is discontinued),
> >>please allow texlive as an alternative dependency for cdcover.  The
> >>latex-ucs package also does this, for example.
> >
> >	Ok, fine. The only problem is that I don't know anything about
> >Texlive, and I don't know if there is possible to substitute each tetex-*
> >package for the equivalent in texlive. I.e., could this "Depends" line be 
> >the
> >right one?
> >
> >	Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, tetex-bin | texlive-bin, tetex-base |
> >	texlive-base, tetex-extra | texlive-extra
> 
> Two of the texlive packages you list there do not exist, texlive-bin
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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 16:52
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Re: Bug#400597: Please also depend on texlive as an alternative to tetex

Norbert Preining <preining <at> logic.at> wrote:

> On the debian-tex list there was a thread reently about a script doing
> some of this magic ... One of the debian-tex-maint regulars can yuou
> point the OP to the respective script?

Description and link in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/2006/11/msg00420.html 

But the answer to the dependency problem is a bit more difficult.
Actually cdcover won't work at all in etch, since it tries to load
isolatin1.sty, which was in tetex-extra in sarge (and already obsolete
then).  The style is no longer available at all in etch.

The template needs to be switched to use

\usepackage[latin]{inputenc}

instead, and then it just needs to 

Depend: ${shlibs:Depends}, tetex-bin | texlive-latex-base

nothing else.

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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 17:04
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Re: Bug#400597: Please also depend on texlive as an alternative to tetex

# by the way
#
# Frank Küster <frank <at> debian.org> wrote:
# 
# > But the answer to the dependency problem is a bit more difficult.
# > Actually cdcover won't work at all in etch, since it tries to load
# > isolatin1.sty, which was in tetex-extra in sarge (and already obsolete
# > then).  The style is no longer available at all in etch.
clone  400597 -1
severity -1 serious
retitle -1 uses obsolete, nonexistent isolatin1.sty
# > The template needs to be switched to use
# >
# > \usepackage[latin]{inputenc}
tags -1 patch
thanks

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Ralf Stubner | 1 Dec 2006 16:50
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Bug#400597: Please also depend on texlive as an alternative to tetex

Norbert Preining wrote:

> On the debian-tex list there was a thread reently about a script doing
> some of this magic ... One of the debian-tex-maint regulars can yuou
> point the OP to the respective script?

<URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/2006/11/msg00420.html>
The most important part of Kevin's message is quoted below:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
I wrote a script that automatically does what I spent a long time doing
by hand last night, that is, determining which TeXLive package ships
each of the files in the tetex-* packages.

The script is here:

http://people.debian.org/~kmccarty/tetex-to-texlive-mapping/tetex-to-texlive.sh

and its output (one report per teTeX package) here:

http://people.debian.org/~kmccarty/tetex-to-texlive-mapping/

For each file, the report includes the TeXLive package containing it,
and flags indicating whether the file contents or the file path differ
(modulo s/texmf-tetex/texmf-texlive/) between teTeX and TexLive.  Files
that were not found in any TeXLive package are also reported.  Only
regular files are considered; symlinks and directories are ignored.  See
the explanatory remarks at the top of each report for more details.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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Frank Küster | 1 Dec 2006 17:01
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Bug#401196: tex-common: Should ship the TDS

Package: tex-common
Version: 0.39
Severity: normal

The Debian TeX Policy refers to the TDS.  As discussed on the list, it
should ship a copy (html + ?).  I'm not sure whether we need to recreate
the docs at build time, but I guess it doesn't cost much build time,
anyway. 

Gruß, Frank
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Kevin B. McCarty | 1 Dec 2006 17:22
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Re: Mapping of teTeX files to TeXLive packages

Frank Küster wrote:
> "Kevin B. McCarty" <kmccarty <at> Princeton.EDU> wrote:
>>One big help would be to include a URL to the TDS in the paragraph
>>quoted above.  I don't know if it's available in HTML format.  Even if
>>it isn't, a pointer would still be very helpful, for instance "The TDS
>>is available in the texlive-doc-en package and the tetex-doc package; it
>>may be viewed by running 'texdoc tds' if one of these packages is
>>installed."
> 
> I have now commited the following patch, which moves the TDS stuff to
> the subsection about File searching instead of TEXMF trees.  What do you
> think about it?

It looks great.  I have one very minor nitpick:

> +        File locations must follow the TeX Directory Structure, TDS.
> +        The TDS specification is installed in
> +        the <package>texlive-doc-en</package>
> +        and <package>tetex-doc</package> packages
> +        as <file>tds.dvi</file>,

I think it is actually installed as tds.dvi.gz.

>>Alternatively you could consider shipping the TDS doc in tex-common
>>instead of (or in addition to) texlive-doc-en/tetex-doc, say in the same
>>directory as the Debian TeX policy docs.
> 
> That's actually what we should do, just as debian-policy ships a copy of
> the FHS.  I just don't have time for this right now.
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