Re: [RFR] wml://News/weekly/2011/15/index.wml Debian Project News frozen. Please review and translate
Filipus Klutiero <chealer <at> gmail.com>
2011-12-11 20:30:27 GMT
Le 2011-12-09 23:01, David Prévot a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Thanks to many contributors, we just finished the last bits for the
> latest issue of the Debian Project News to be released Monday. We would
> appreciate reviews and translations.
>
> Instructions are available on the wiki :
> http://wiki.debian.org/ProjectNews
>
> As usual, the last updated version is available on the publicity
> Subversion repository, even via HTTP:
> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/publicity/dpn/en/current/index.wml
>
> Regards
>
> David
Thanks to all writers, and thank you David in particular. Here are my
comments:
> As you may have noticed, it has been quite some time since the last
> edition of
> Debian Project News. To improve the frequency of
> <acronym lang="en" title="Debian Project News" >DPN</acronym> and
> expand its
> other activities, the Debian Publicity team is looking for new
> contributors.
> Did you ever want to help Debian, but every piece of software you were
> interested
> in was already packaged? You don't consider yourself a <q>technical
> person</q>? You
> have basic skills in written English? Perfect! Have you considered
> <a
> href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/11/msg00055.html">joining
> the Publicity Team</a>? If you are a Debian member, the Press team is
> also looking
> for new contributors.
Nice item. In the interest of getting maximum efficiency for our
message, I have two comments on it.
First, the current presentation somewhat gives the impression that
people would participate in the publicity team by a lack of
skills/opportunities to participate in other areas of the project. I
would drop any reference to packaging or any other task in this request.
Instead, let's focus on what tasks need manpower and what skills these
need. Skills like having good knowledge of what's happening in the
project, communicating well, and writing well. For what it's worth, I'm
not sure people need to write well in English specifically. Don't we
also need people to simply translate the DPN and other publications?
Similarly, I would put less emphasis on "joining the team" and more on
helping the team. We already have enough people listed as part of the
team doing little, what we need is not a longer list of members, but
more job done. An example of the orientation I would privilege: instead
of "joining the Publicity Team", "participating in the Publicity Team".
Also on that item, while higher frequency would definitely help, it's
not the only thing the DPN could use. I would also encourage people to
help it increase its quality (in general).
> The release of Java update 29 from Oracle marks not only security updates,
> but a change to the licensing, removing Debian's ability to distribute the
> non-free JVM.
"marking security updates" doesn't sound right. I would say
> The release of Oracle's Java 6 update 29, which fixes security vulnerabilities,
> includes a change to the licensing of Oracle Java, removing Debian's ability to distribute the
> non-free JVM.
> He notes that Ubuntu plan to deprecate their package review platform
> (REVU) in favour of converging on<tt>mentors.debian.net</tt>.
"that Ubuntu plan" is quite casual. I would recommend "He notes a Ubuntu
plan [...]" instead.
> The<acronym lang="en" title="Open Source Initiative">OSI</acronym>
> have invited the Debian Project to their upcoming affiliation programme.
I don't think OSI is plural.
> As part of Ubuntu's recent<a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay">Community
> Appreciation Day</a>, Michael Hall sent Debian
> <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00626.html">a message
> of appreciation</a>, stating<q>Without you we wouldn't be able to make the
> contributions we do. Ubuntu is great because Debian is great, and we appreciate
> all of the work that goes into making it that way.</q> Michael
> <a href="http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/11/17/welcoming-our-new-horseman-michael-hall/">will
> be joining</a> Canonical's Community Team, focusing on projects that are
> upstream for Ubuntu.
I for one don't consider this very newsworthy. We already a yearly
appreciation day for thanking Debian.
> To quote Carlos Juan MartÃn Pérez<q>For us, the Ministry of Health, and as
> members of the Salvadorian Community of Free Software, is an honour to belong
> to the great Debian family.</q>
I don't know where the quote is from, but if there is no "it" in the
quote, we should put a "[sic]". Is it normal that there is no link to a
mailing list thread or something on that item?
> <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/BSPMarathon">Similarly</a>
> <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/BSPMarathonEtch">to</a>
> <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/BSPMarathonLenny">previous</a>
> <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/BSPMarathonSqueeze">releases</a>,
> a marathon of Bug Squashing Parties (BSPs) has been started with concurrent BSPs
> being held in<a href="http://www.debian.org/events/2011/1202-hildesheim-bsp">Hildesheim</a>,
> Germany and<a href="http://www.debian.org/events/2011/1204-ubulocjam-debbsp">Portland</a>,
> OR, USA.
Two-letter acronyms should be well-known... I imagine "OR" stands for
"Oregon".
> In Hildesheim<a
> href="http://blog.schmehl.info/Debian/events/bsp-hi-2011-3">60 Release Critical bugs
> were addressed</a> and several improvements to the<a
> href="http://blog.ganneff.de/blog/2011/12/04/bsp-hildesheim.html">archive
> software</a> introduced, while in Portland<a
> href="http://web.dodds.net/~vorlon/wiki/blog/Making_jam_from_bugs/">14
> multiarch patches</a> were created!
The 60 RC bugs figure is incorrect. The number 60 refers to bug
*reports* with a severity suggesting they were RC. It would be nice to
have (linked) the statistics too.
> Two cross-distributions devrooms are intended to be
> for people from any participating distribution project, and may cover
> Debian-specific subjects, or indeed targeted at Debian developers only.
It's not clear to me why this says "indeed".
> Four applicants have been
> <a href="https://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php#newmaint">accepted</a>
> as Debian Developers,
> <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/11/msg00012.html">thirteen</a>
> <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/12/msg00004.html">applicants</a>
> have been accepted
> as Debian Maintainer, and
> twenty-five people have<a href="http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/new-maintainers.cgi">started
> to maintain packages</a> since the previous issue of the Debian
> Project News. Please welcome
> Nicholas Breen,
> Vincent Legout,
> Antoine Beaupré,
> Gergely Nagy,
>
> Wolodja Wentland,
> Vasudev Kamath,
> Matthias Klumpp,
> José Manuel SantamarÃa Lema,
> Floris Bruynooghe,
> Cédric Boutillier,
> Christophe Trophime,
> Tobias Hansen,
> Nicolas Dandrimont,
> Simone Rosetto,
> Jonas Genannt,
> Laszlo Kajan,
> James Page,
>
> Mikolaj Izdebski,
> Félix Arreola RodrÃguez,
> Henry Velez,
> Gastón Ramos,
> Stephen M. Webb,
> Miguel de Val Borro,
> Simon Chopin,
> Paolo Greppi,
> B. Clausius,
> Mateusz Kijowski,
> José Luis Segura Lucas,
> Marcin Kulisz (kuLa),
> Teus Benschop,
> Ole Streicher,
> Paolo Rotolo,
> Martin Erik Werner,
> Raoul Gunnar Borenius,
> Geoffrey Thomas,
> Alkis Georgopoulos,
> Jerome Kieffer,
> Christopher Gervais,
> Håkon Nessjøen,
> David Stone,
> Nicolas Bourdaud
> and
> Mathias Ertl
> into our project!
I was going to say this is odd, but I remembered this was already discussed:
> The way people are listed is odd. If people are welcomed to the Debian
> project when becoming DM-s and also when they prepare their first
> package, that means they're presumably being welcomed twice. For me,
> welcoming someone to the project means that person is new in the
> project, so you can't welcome twice. Also, is everyone starting to
> maintain packages in the list or is there a selection? For example, I
> wonder what would happen if I was to get into packaging, would I be
> "welcomed" to the project?...
>
> I would suggest to congratulate or thank these people instead.
> <toc-add-entry name="rcstats">Release-critical bugs statistics for the upcoming release</toc-add-entry>
>
> <p>According to the<a href="http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi">Bugs Search
> interface of the Ultimate Debian Database</a>, the upcoming release,
> Debian 7.0<q>Wheezy</q>, is currently affected by
> 1656 release-critical bugs. Ignoring bugs which are easily solved
> or on the way to being solved, roughly speaking, about
> 849 release-critical bugs remain to be solved for the
> release to happen.</p>
>
> <p>There are also<a
> href="http://blog.schmehl.info/Debian/rc-stats/7.0-wheezy/2011-49">more detailed
> statistics</a> as well as some<a
> href="http://wiki.debian.org/ProjectNews/RC-Stats">hints on how to
> interpret</a> these numbers.</p>
Eeeeek!!! Thankfully, the number of RC bugs in wheezy is more like 937
for now (see
http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&merged=ign&fnewerval=7&rc=1&sortby=id&sorto=asc
). And the number remaining to be solved is more like 801. Yes, just that...
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